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Brenda Connolly

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05-07-2007 11:13

From: Chip Midnight

I didn't miss it. That's the part that really irks me. I have absolutely no desire to be deputized against my will into protecting the eyeballs or moral fiberof other people's children.

Agreed. Children who shouldn't be here in the first place.

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05-07-2007 11:17

From: Brenda Connolly

Agreed. Children who shouldn't be here in the first place.

Children who LINDEN LAB enabled to get on the grid in the first place, so they could pump up their fake numbers, and now WE are supposed to be watching out for these kids.

Pisses me off to no end.

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Dana Hickman

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05-07-2007 13:04

From: Chip Midnight

I didn't miss it. That's the part that really irks me. I have absolutely no desire to be deputized against my will into protecting the eyeballs or moral fiberof other people's children.

Another ditto...
There's about as much skin showing at my lil store as Chip has at his, and both aren't sexual in nature. I wont be flagging as adult content, and I'll be leaving the mature flag on... simple as that. LL DID use the word "excessively ..." and to me that means anything you can look at and say there's definately SEX involved. Mere nudity or parts thereof aren't sexual. One may find it sexy

, but in and of itself it is not sex, and certainly not "excessive".

mcgeeb Gupte

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05-07-2007 13:46

Good points. It's like me needing to watch my 4 kids and what they do on the internet and now needing to watch some other person's kids that don't belong here and what they do on here.

Chip Midnight

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05-07-2007 13:59

From: Dana Hickman

I wont be flagging as adult content, and I'll be leaving the mature flag on... simple as that.

That's the way I'm leaning myself, but I won't make any decisions until we get more clarification. I'd like to know what happens when someone gets AR'd for adult content that isn't flagged.

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Sunspot Pixie

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05-07-2007 15:50

From: Chip Midnight

That's the way I'm leaning myself, but I won't make any decisions until we get more clarification. I'd like to know what happens when someone gets AR'd for adult content that isn't flagged.

Vigilantism is first thing I thought of when I heard about this.

These self appointed SL police organisations, the PN, and just individuals with axes to grind - pissed at an ex-lover and so on, are going to abuse this, make no mistake.

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Colette Meiji

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05-07-2007 16:55

From: Dana Hickman

Another ditto...
There's about as much skin showing at my lil store as Chip has at his, and both aren't sexual in nature. I wont be flagging as adult content, and I'll be leaving the mature flag on... simple as that. LL DID use the word "excessively ..." and to me that means anything you can look at and say there's definately SEX involved. Mere nudity or parts thereof aren't sexual. One may find it sexy

, but in and of itself it is not sex, and certainly not "excessive".

Were not sure the Mature Content and Adult flags are different yet

Unless they made some clarification today?

Chip Midnight

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05-07-2007 17:02

From: Colette Meiji

Were not sure the Mature Content and Adult flags are different yet

Unless they made some clarification today?

They are different. There's another post on the blog today. It doesn't answer the question about nudity though. It just reiterates that it includes things that are explicitly sexual and excessively violent. I take that to mean that nudity alone doesn't qualify. There's also no info yet on how complaints will be handled.

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Colette Meiji

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05-07-2007 17:06

From: Chip Midnight

They are different. There's another post on the blog today. It doesn't answer the question about nudity though. It just reiterates that it includes things that are explicitly sexual and excessively violent. I take that to mean that nudity alone doesn't qualify. There's also no info yet on how complaints will be handled.

okay its good that they are different - It would have been a boringly BLAND world for people who wouldnt verify under the new system .

Still I see more Night Clubs and less Sex Clubs, etc ... That part might not be bad.

I somehow doubt LL will define Adult though. They want "Plausible Deniability"

Livinda Goodliffe

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05-07-2007 19:07

I can see almost see this going to the courts. Bankrupcy court and the Supreme court.

Colette Meiji

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05-07-2007 22:55

From: Chip Midnight

They are different. There's another post on the blog today. It doesn't answer the question about nudity though. It just reiterates that it includes things that are explicitly sexual and excessively violent. I take that to mean that nudity alone doesn't qualify. There's also no info yet on how complaints will be handled.

Not entirely sure of this I read the blog and it didnt spell it out - and I just asked Robin straight out and she didnt aknowledge the current flag.

All the Statements were getting on this refers to there will be TWO levels of content on Mature parcels. "Adult" and Mature but not "Adult".

The Problem is becuase of the recent search changes there will be THREE levels of content on mature Parcels.

If theres three levels of content we need 2 flags.

I suppose its possible daniel and Robin arent aware of the recent chances to the Places Search and the use of that flag.

Since they continually dont mention It, even when direcctly asked. Or I didnt ask clearly enough, I guess.

From: Robin Linden

Currently every region has a rating: PG or M. On the mainland the rating is pre-determined; on estates the estate owner can set it to PG or M.

The parcel flag we're talking about will be available on M regions (island or mainland) only. It will mean that there is adult content on that parcel/region that is clearly inappropriate for non-adults. This content is that which is overtly, graphically, or explicitly sexual in nature or intensely violent. Obviously, there should be no content on PG regions that fits this description. But even on M regions this content is extreme, and therefore needs to be flagged.

If you are not verified you will not be able to enter parcels or islands that are flagged as having adult content.

For more information on our thinking about costs, please see this post.

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Brenda Connolly Un United Avatar Join date: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 25,000	05-07-2007 11:13 From: Chip Midnight I didn't miss it. That's the part that really irks me. I have absolutely no desire to be deputized against my will into protecting the eyeballs or moral fiberof other people's children. Agreed. Children who shouldn't be here in the first place. _____________________ Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen. http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
Sunspot Pixie dread heliotrope Join date: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 493	05-07-2007 11:17 From: Brenda Connolly Agreed. Children who shouldn't be here in the first place. Children who LINDEN LAB enabled to get on the grid in the first place, so they could pump up their fake numbers, and now WE are supposed to be watching out for these kids. Pisses me off to no end. _____________________ If we eat our soup in the rain, we'll never run out...
Dana Hickman Leather & Lace™ Join date: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,515	05-07-2007 13:04 From: Chip Midnight I didn't miss it. That's the part that really irks me. I have absolutely no desire to be deputized against my will into protecting the eyeballs or moral fiberof other people's children. Another ditto... There's about as much skin showing at my lil store as Chip has at his, and both aren't sexual in nature. I wont be flagging as adult content, and I'll be leaving the mature flag on... simple as that. LL DID use the word "excessively ..." and to me that means anything you can look at and say there's definately SEX involved. Mere nudity or parts thereof aren't sexual. One may find it sexy , but in and of itself it is not sex, and certainly not "excessive".
mcgeeb Gupte Jolie Femme @}-,-'-,--- Join date: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 1,152	05-07-2007 13:46 Good points. It's like me needing to watch my 4 kids and what they do on the internet and now needing to watch some other person's kids that don't belong here and what they do on here.
Chip Midnight ate my baby! Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 10,231	05-07-2007 13:59 From: Dana Hickman I wont be flagging as adult content, and I'll be leaving the mature flag on... simple as that. That's the way I'm leaning myself, but I won't make any decisions until we get more clarification. I'd like to know what happens when someone gets AR'd for adult content that isn't flagged. _____________________ My other hobby: www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight
Sunspot Pixie dread heliotrope Join date: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 493	05-07-2007 15:50 From: Chip Midnight That's the way I'm leaning myself, but I won't make any decisions until we get more clarification. I'd like to know what happens when someone gets AR'd for adult content that isn't flagged. Vigilantism is first thing I thought of when I heard about this. These self appointed SL police organisations, the PN, and just individuals with axes to grind - pissed at an ex-lover and so on, are going to abuse this, make no mistake. _____________________ If we eat our soup in the rain, we'll never run out...
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	05-07-2007 16:55 From: Dana Hickman Another ditto... There's about as much skin showing at my lil store as Chip has at his, and both aren't sexual in nature. I wont be flagging as adult content, and I'll be leaving the mature flag on... simple as that. LL DID use the word "excessively ..." and to me that means anything you can look at and say there's definately SEX involved. Mere nudity or parts thereof aren't sexual. One may find it sexy , but in and of itself it is not sex, and certainly not "excessive". Were not sure the Mature Content and Adult flags are different yet Unless they made some clarification today?
Chip Midnight ate my baby! Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 10,231	05-07-2007 17:02 From: Colette Meiji Were not sure the Mature Content and Adult flags are different yet Unless they made some clarification today? They are different. There's another post on the blog today. It doesn't answer the question about nudity though. It just reiterates that it includes things that are explicitly sexual and excessively violent. I take that to mean that nudity alone doesn't qualify. There's also no info yet on how complaints will be handled. _____________________ My other hobby: www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	05-07-2007 17:06 From: Chip Midnight They are different. There's another post on the blog today. It doesn't answer the question about nudity though. It just reiterates that it includes things that are explicitly sexual and excessively violent. I take that to mean that nudity alone doesn't qualify. There's also no info yet on how complaints will be handled. okay its good that they are different - It would have been a boringly BLAND world for people who wouldnt verify under the new system . Still I see more Night Clubs and less Sex Clubs, etc ... That part might not be bad. I somehow doubt LL will define Adult though. They want "Plausible Deniability"
Livinda Goodliffe Squeaky Wheel Join date: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 215	05-07-2007 19:07 I can see almost see this going to the courts. Bankrupcy court and the Supreme court.
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	05-07-2007 22:55 From: Chip Midnight They are different. There's another post on the blog today. It doesn't answer the question about nudity though. It just reiterates that it includes things that are explicitly sexual and excessively violent. I take that to mean that nudity alone doesn't qualify. There's also no info yet on how complaints will be handled. Not entirely sure of this I read the blog and it didnt spell it out - and I just asked Robin straight out and she didnt aknowledge the current flag. All the Statements were getting on this refers to there will be TWO levels of content on Mature parcels. "Adult" and Mature but not "Adult". The Problem is becuase of the recent search changes there will be THREE levels of content on mature Parcels. If theres three levels of content we need 2 flags. I suppose its possible daniel and Robin arent aware of the recent chances to the Places Search and the use of that flag. Since they continually dont mention It, even when direcctly asked. Or I didnt ask clearly enough, I guess. From: Robin Linden Currently every region has a rating: PG or M. On the mainland the rating is pre-determined; on estates the estate owner can set it to PG or M. The parcel flag we're talking about will be available on M regions (island or mainland) only. It will mean that there is adult content on that parcel/region that is clearly inappropriate for non-adults. This content is that which is overtly, graphically, or explicitly sexual in nature or intensely violent. Obviously, there should be no content on PG regions that fits this description. But even on M regions this content is extreme, and therefore needs to be flagged. If you are not verified you will not be able to enter parcels or islands that are flagged as having adult content. For more information on our thinking about costs, please see this post.

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