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Kim Anubis
The Magician
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 921
03-30-2007 09:16
I usually shop for male clothing at Little Rebel, and you can find great shoes at Shiny Things. Robin Sojourner has some really nice shirts.
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Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 7,750
03-30-2007 09:34
Was helping my Brother, Feral Mill, look less grubby recently. :) Check out Robin Sojourner for jeans and shirts. Try House of Zen for men's formal wear - Suits, dress shirts, ties, slacks, as well as some casual wear and men's Asian clothing (Japanese and Chinese styles). City Walk for men's boots and shoes? (Have to check that) You can ask Sasy Scarborough at House of Zen for her lead on men's shoes, and she'll give you a LM. She is almost always in the store. Baer Rose has some great men's clothes, though you have to hunt a bit through the Goth and game-inspired stuff.
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Amity Slade
Registered User
Join date: 14 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,183
03-30-2007 09:34
The good stuff exists for men. It takes a more dedicated search.

While fashion products for men are less prolific, the ones that are available seem to be of consistently high quality, in my opinion. While there are more fashion products available for women, the quality is much less consistent, in my opinion.
Susanne Pascale
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Join date: 14 Feb 2007
Posts: 371
03-30-2007 10:06
I work at Blaze and we have some nice things for guys from tuxedos and business suits all the way to casual slacks, golf shirts and shorts. That being said, I have noticed the majority of our male customers come in wearing jeans and a t-shirt and usually mention that they have been nagged by a partner or g/f into upgrading their appearance OR they want more dresy things to impress a certain girl or girls.

Here's the thing...its a fundamental difference between most men and most women that women LIKE to shop. Its fun for us. We regard it as recreation - therapy even! Most guys regard it as an annoying chore. This is true in RL - another poster said to go to any mall and see how many women's clothing stores there are compared to men's. Its just the way things are. There are more gender differences than just "plumbing."

I don't know the exact figures, but I BELIEVE that the SL world is populated by more female AVs than male. That would have a bearing on this issue as well.

Men, whether in SL or RL get to the pojnt that they have "enough" clothes. We never do and I am ALWAYS on the lookout, wherever I may be, for something cute.

Good luck an dI am sure you will find what you need!!

also at Blaze we often have live sales help inthe store to help. that's what I do. Its funny, but often a girl will come in and I ask her if she needs help, often they just want to browse, which is cool. Guys generally have a shopping list, like they are going to the grocery store or something. "Um yeh... my g/f wants me to buy a suit. Have any?" or "I need a blue shirt." or Where are your shoes?"
Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
03-30-2007 10:11
You could get guys to shop as much as women -

Just require power tools for them to build prims.

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Beebo Brink
Uppity Alt
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 574
03-30-2007 10:17
From: Susanne Pascale
Here's the thing...its a fundamental difference between most men and most women that women LIKE to shop.

SL throws a strange twist to that RL equation though. I keep hearing that guys won't shop for their male avatar, but if they create a female avatar, they shop like demons.

So it seems behavior is influence more by our expectations for an avatar's gender-role than the RL preferences of the person behind the keyboard.
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Amity Slade
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Join date: 14 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,183
03-30-2007 10:20
From: Susanne Pascale
I work at Blaze and we have some nice things for guys from tuxedos and business suits all the way to casual slacks, golf shirts and shorts. That being said, I have noticed the majority of our male customers come in wearing jeans and a t-shirt and usually mention that they have been nagged by a partner or g/f into upgrading their appearance OR they want more dresy things to impress a certain girl or girls.

Here's the thing...its a fundamental difference between most men and most women that women LIKE to shop. Its fun for us. We regard it as recreation - therapy even! Most guys regard it as an annoying chore. This is true in RL - another poster said to go to any mall and see how many women's clothing stores there are compared to men's. Its just the way things are. There are more gender differences than just "plumbing."


In real life, for a long time, fashion advertising focused a great deal on making women feel badly about their bodies, and convincing them that they needed to improve their looks to find love. Recently, however, the fashion business has discovered that they can get men to become avid consumers of fashion too, because men are just as susceptible to being made to feel badly about their bodies. Thus, in recent years, the fashion industry for men has been catching up.

The only real difference between men and women on SL, as in RL, is that women have been conditioned for a long time that they must buy fashion products to win love. Fashion for love is comparatively new to men, and they are still on the learning curve.
Amity Slade
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Join date: 14 Feb 2007
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03-30-2007 10:21
From: Beebo Brink
SL throws a strange twist to that RL equation though. I keep hearing that guys won't shop for their male avatar, but if they create a female avatar, they shop like demons.

So it seems behavior is influence more by our expectations for an avatar's gender-role than the RL preferences of the person behind the keyboard.


You said what I meant to say while I was posting. Bingo. You hit the nail on the head.
Susanne Pascale
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Join date: 14 Feb 2007
Posts: 371
03-30-2007 10:29
From: Beebo Brink
SL throws a strange twist to that RL equation though. I keep hearing that guys won't shop for their male avatar, but if they create a female avatar, they shop like demons.

So it seems behavior is influence more by our expectations for an avatar's gender-role than the RL preferences of the person behind the keyboard.


That is a very interesting theory, which I hadn't thought about. Certainly food for thought.
Jack Belvedere
GOHA Commissioner
Join date: 4 Aug 2004
Posts: 270
03-30-2007 10:44
From: Brenda Connolly
And every one of you guys complaining about SL fashion probably live in T shirts and sweats in RL...lol


Don't forget about hockey jerseys. :)

These are some of my favorite places for decent good looking normal guys stuff. They are also very reasonably priced.

Renegade
Sini Style
FORM
Desert Star

You can find them all on a parcel called The Block, or individually at their own main lots.

Also, there's a place called 1 800 Bettie's that sells a very nice suit. FNKY has very realistic looking shades and dress shoes.

Naughty Island has the best guy's hair and skin I can find.

FORM also has some very excellent, realistic AOs for stands.
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Kalynn Carnell
Registered User
Join date: 21 Feb 2007
Posts: 3
03-30-2007 11:21
I took a male friend shopping for his avatar, and we found some great guy's clothing, shoes, and accessories at SubZero (the mall, not the club). I've been shopping for a new AO myself, so I've hit a LOT of places over the last two days. I found some good guy AOs at a place called Vista Animations. Lost Dog also has a really good one called DNA for both guys and girls. It's a little expensive, but when you think of how much the individual animations would cost, it's worth it.
Atheist Ferraris
Registered User
Join date: 27 Mar 2007
Posts: 21
03-30-2007 15:18
Wow, lots of good suggestions here! I'm going to have to start making a list. Thanks a lot, everyone. :)

Cheers, bilbo99. I really appreciate that.
Rhaorth Antonelli
Registered User
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 7,425
03-30-2007 15:48
now I know why ppl keep telling me to design some mens clothes
(I design womens, never really knew what to design for men)

now I am thinking, slacks, polo shirts, button down shirts (tucked and untucked) maybe some jeans, and of course briefs bikinis and boxers hehe

yep maybe when I get back home tonight I will try a pair of mens slacks....and a button down shirt... maybe LOL
Brenda Connolly
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Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
03-30-2007 15:57
From: Jack Belvedere
Don't forget about hockey jerseys. :)

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Jack, don't get me started on the Hockey or Basketball Shirts. But a nice Baseball Jersey is another story.....
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Jack Belvedere
GOHA Commissioner
Join date: 4 Aug 2004
Posts: 270
03-30-2007 18:14
From: Brenda Connolly
Jack, don't get me started on the Hockey or Basketball Shirts. But a nice Baseball Jersey is another story.....


(Grins and nudges her to get her started)
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Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
03-30-2007 23:07
From: Colette Meiji
You could get guys to shop as much as women -

Just require power tools for them to build prims.

:p


Hmmmm, the Priminatic 3000, 3000 mega-virtual kw of prim distorting/shaping power, torus to giant mousetrap coil spring in under .5 of a second, cuts a 10x10x10 cube of concrete into a .5m thick floor slab with a click of the mouse :) Hmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Palomma Casanova
Free Dove Owner
Join date: 5 Apr 2004
Posts: 635
04-23-2007 02:50
The Free Dove always looking for MALE clothing designers and MALE AO's designers... MALE Hair and shoes...

IM Me and I let the designer with a establish store put a free box prim for free promotion
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Angel Slocombe
Registered User
Join date: 20 Dec 2006
Posts: 52
04-23-2007 02:57
From: Soen Eber
Yeah, well, my fault really.

Same pants I designed myself six months ago (a nice sunset sky pattern). Same shirt I designed myself (from a fractal I ripped somewhere). Changed hair - um, twice. Freebie shoes. A skin after months of nagging by my significant other - settled on a nice cheap one. A couple alternate outfits I picked up somewhere - a classy suit and tie, plus some nice bland casual workwear bit. And of course my significant other's collar which I wear proudly but which she paid for.

Total amount spent on myself in the past six months: maybe 2K, tops. And remember half of that was from constant nagging.

This is exactly why most products are aimed at women... women are more likely to spend money.

Almost every male av I know has just a few clothes, they go for days without changing. Female avs change their clothes far more often .. just yesterday I wore a total of 4 outfits throughout the day, changing t suit the environment I was in. One outfit for building, one for the event at the club where i work, one for shopping and one for chilling at home. With the outfits I also change hair & shoes & jewellry. We spend more money, it's as simple as that :D
Ike Fairweather
Off Tha Chain
Join date: 1 Feb 2007
Posts: 387
04-23-2007 03:01
From: Atheist Ferraris
I'll start by saying that I've only been playing for a week, so I'm certainly still very clueless about a lot of things in Second Life. Take this with a grain of salt.

That being said... has anyone noticed that 95% of all clothes, animations and accessories seem to be targeted towards female avatars? I could pick any mall at random, and almost every single shop therein will be selling female clothes, female poses, female hair styles, and so on. I spent about half an hour last night just searching for a store that sold shirts for males, and the closest I found was a bunch of identical t-shirts with different logos on the front.

I spent even longer looking for an animation to replace the awkward-looking walk that my character has, and I never actually found anything. The popular freebie locations (like the Free Dove) have replacement walks for females, but not for males. The closest I came was a box that read, "Animation override for females, will work for males but you'll have to set it up yourself." Now, money isn't an issue (I'm not just looking for freebies), but even at the expensive shops, I couldn't find a simple walk animation.

As I said, I'm still very inexperienced. Could anybody recommend a shop or location that sells a decent range of male clothes and/or animations? These faded jeans are getting a little boring. :)


The majority of the population when it comes to consumers are women. As most know, women do the most shopping. But you are correct. I plan on openning a men's store in my rental shop area. Just trying to get these templates finalized.
Porky Gorky
Temperamentalalistical
Join date: 25 May 2004
Posts: 1,414
04-23-2007 03:10
I am wearing the same dirty denim jeans and yoda T shirt that I bought in my first week, thats the only outfit I own apart from the basic free stuff you get in the Library. Oooh I did buy some cool chunky alien boots back in 2005 which i've worn ever since. I dont get out much :)

In rl my wife just points to things on the internet and I generally grunt if I like it it. Thats what I need in sl, I spend all of my time building or supporting customers and no time or inclination for shipping so would be handy to just give some wench 50K and tell them to go buy me a wardrobe (without getting ripped off). Is there such a service? Wenches 'R' Us or somthing similar?
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Johan Durant
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Join date: 7 Aug 2006
Posts: 1,657
04-23-2007 04:55
Coincidentally, I am about to release a male AO in my store. Give me a couple days.
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bilbo99 Emu
Garrett's No.1 fan
Join date: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 3,468
04-23-2007 05:33
From: Johan Durant
Coincidentally, I am about to release a male AO in my store. Give me a couple days.


Shall be at the door first thing Wednesday morning Johan! ...<rummages in cupboard for sleeping bag and blankets>
Goosey Gealach
Where'd my 'yo' go?
Join date: 12 Sep 2006
Posts: 80
04-23-2007 06:02
I don't like 'normal' clothes. However, it seems even the 'alternative' options for males are designed with a perfect mesomorphic Adonis in mind. Particularly the shirts, which follow the contours of a rippling six-pack and impressive pecs closely (and makes the av look like a plastic Superman action figure). I like my more ectomorphic av, but I've been frustrated trying to buy clothes that look good on him. Especially, like I say, since I have no interest in 'normal' clothes.

Then again, more than once said av has been mistaken for a girl anyway.

(I've been mistaken for a girl in RL, too. Probably because I have long hair. I would have thought the not-insubstantial beard would give it away, though o_0)
Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
04-23-2007 06:18
From: Goosey Gealach
I don't like 'normal' clothes. However, it seems even the 'alternative' options for males are designed with a perfect mesomorphic Adonis in mind. Particularly the shirts, which follow the contours of a rippling six-pack and impressive pecs closely (and makes the av look like a plastic Superman action figure). I like my more ectomorphic av, but I've been frustrated trying to buy clothes that look good on him. Especially, like I say, since I have no interest in 'normal' clothes.

Then again, more than once said av has been mistaken for a girl anyway.

(I've been mistaken for a girl in RL, too. Probably because I have long hair. I would have thought the not-insubstantial beard would give it away, though o_0)



I think the majority of clothes in SL are pretty much tight though.

This is largely the result of the way clothes work from LL . I think a lot of people - men and women both would clothes that looked more realisitc with reguards to how they fit on the Avatar.
Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
04-23-2007 07:09
Give Robin Sojourner's shop in Benten a try. Yes, there aren't men's skins (yet), but the clothing is good men's or women's casual.

Mari
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