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Colette Meiji
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05-06-2007 13:38
When we start deciding what people are allowed to talk about - we just took a big step down the wrong road.
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Walker Moore
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05-06-2007 13:38
I'm really pissed off that the people complaining about the people complaining aren't complaining about the complaining that they're complaining about, but only about the complaining that the complainers are complaining of, don't they realize that complaining about complaining only leads to complaining about complaining about complaining? DILLIGAF. ROFL. We need Monty Python's argument clinic really don't we? ![]() _____________________
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Jacquelin Seisenbacher
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05-06-2007 13:45
It's not leagle to require one to give out their ss#.
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Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
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05-06-2007 13:51
When we start deciding what people are allowed to talk about - we just took a big step down the wrong road. I actualy dont see anyone saying you should not talk about any of this I do see a lot of people saying and making fun sometimes of why so many threads on the issues I think its reasonable to ask people to not go overboard and drown everything else out in an effort to be heard and step on everyone else in order to do it Maybe we should start a thread to see just how many threads are needed on the issue and maybe we should all do what 2ksusie did because he felt left out so he just posted a thread on the subject just to join in (a joke of course but he was making the same point in a humourous way) The bottom line is that this is not even what this forum is for but its being allowed which is very nice but it will only be allowed to a point at which point someone is gonna pull in the reigns and say enough and then no one will be able to say anything is it not better to have less threads that actually stay open then a bazzillion threads that will get closed very quickly followed by every subsequent thread being closed on the subject? I dunno the thread about the bots is like over 1k posts long its doing well and has not been locked and everyone has their say in it no problem so again what is the deal with starting an entire forum full of threads on one issue knowing that they are gonna get locked much faster then if you only have a couple of threads on an issue ![]() seems to me everyone knows the answer ![]() |
Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
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05-06-2007 14:00
If SL is not working for you, go find another game/platform to use...and if you are making money from SL and you feel it is neccessary to post every 10 minutes about the same damn thing, go get a real job and stop yelling at LL! /me nods understanding, but must also quote this paragraph. As i read recently on a forum for a MMORPG i usually play, someone was ranting similar to this. People who want want want and are never happy. They will never find a game that satisfies them if they continue on complaining about them like that. The complainers about age play, kids, and anything that looks like kids, are the reason SL is turning to crap right now. I preferred SL how it used to be before all this started about kids and age play. Back when i started, we didn't care! just give us our prims and we are happy. Some people are so insecure about this kid thing, It's unbearable... let people role play what ever they want... As long as they don't ask them to get involved, they got nothing to complain about IMO. _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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05-06-2007 14:00
I actualy dont see anyone saying you should not talk about any of this I do see a lot of people saying and making fun sometimes of why so many threads on the issues I think its reasonable to ask people to not go overboard and drown everything else out in an effort to be heard and step on everyone else in order to do it Maybe we should start a thread to see just how many threads are needed on the issue and maybe we should all do what 2ksusie did because he felt left out so he just posted a thread on the subject just to join in (a joke of course but he was making the same point in a humourous way) The bottom line is that this is not even what this forum is for but its being allowed which is very nice but it will only be allowed to a point at which point someone is gonna pull in the reigns and say enough and then no one will be able to say anything is it not better to have less threads that actually stay open then a bazzillion threads that will get closed very quickly followed by every subsequent thread being closed on the subject? I dunno the thread about the bots is like over 1k posts long its doing well and has not been locked and everyone has their say in it no problem so again what is the deal with starting an entire forum full of threads on one issue knowing that they are gonna get locked much faster then if you only have a couple of threads on an issue ![]() seems to me everyone knows the answer ![]() I think theres so many threads becuase it was such a lightning bolt type issue - People were so angered their SL was going to be compromised they started threads without looking around for similiar threads. Strife will see this - hes been around. LL manufactured this issue by posting this on a friday in the 11th hour then limiting the blog to 100 comments. They should make these Huge announcements on Mondays - it would reduce this panic stuff considerably. |
Sunspot Pixie
dread heliotrope
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05-06-2007 14:01
okay i'll remember that and take note that being reasonable and posting where guidelines and tos ask you to post is not a part of what you like to do which is basically follow rules set out and TOS according to linden labs i see a lot of unreasonable people here and you wonder why there are huge community splits and the community can do nothing together? until this I'm in control attitude and garbage stops then nothing will change. Meanwhile I'm not willing to support anything you guys say because its clear that you only have one person in mind when you do these selfish acts of "i will do what i want" you and yourself only your worried about your personal whatever and can't be bothered to listen to logic when someone says hey guys dont you think that your posting to many threads heck this forum isn't even meant for that so stay in your little bubble world that revolves around you only and lets ignore all the new players and the purpose of this forum and trash it just so we can have our fun who cares about those other guys so i will say it bluntly selfish people are just that selfish people I just hope the forums don't get closed down because of your selfish acts because a whole lot of people will suffer because of the selfish acts of a handful of players who just want to do what they want to do regardless of what the rules say no wonder you don't want age verification that's to much "control" for you that's all i see when i read comments like this. You're jumping to conclusions about my position on the verification issue. My issue with you, and the other trolls who jump all over everybody when they get riled about something, is that you have control issues. It's a bit ironic that you're blaming the people who raise issues and questions for some "community divide", when the divide is created when people like you, who simply cannot abide by people working something out of their systems though venting, have to jump in and start name calling, accusing, pigeon holing, and criticising. THAT is what causes the rift. By the way Wilhelm, a resmod said a while back that LL allows a certain measure of venting to go on here in Resident Answers, in the hopes that it will serve as a relief valve of sorts. But, by all means, keep railing, at times incoherently, at people who are in no way forcing you to read or reply with ranty huge post after huge post. Do you not see the irony, Wilhelm, in greatly contributing to threads, and indeed causing them to spiral into arguments, when you are screaming they shouldn't exist in the first place? You can do it Wilhelm! You can let your mouse pass right over these threads you "don't like" so much. By the way, I think you DO like them, I think they serve as a way for you to ego build by utilising them as a bully pulpit to try and tell people what to do. As for the rest of your post, so much of it can be applied to you yourself that it makes my head spin, and I'll not waste time on it. _____________________
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
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05-06-2007 14:02
As for my opinion on the new verification method... As long as it doesn't effect me and my every day life in SL then i don't care. If i get locked out of my own sim or sims i EM, then i will care.
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Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
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05-06-2007 14:19
They should make these Huge announcements on Mondays - it would reduce this panic stuff considerably. yeah it would lol |
Joseph Abel
Leaves no pawprints...
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05-06-2007 15:26
When are YOU going to stop complaining? ...when they pry the keyboard from my cold, dead talons... |
Rusty Satyr
Meadow Mythfit
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05-07-2007 12:57
For the record:
I don't give a flying rip about the age verification issue. And I'm mad as hell about it. Maybe it's invasive, maybe it's necessary, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't.... big whoop. I can't bring myself to get all charged up and tell people they're wrong or being irrational, on either side of the pro/con argument, and I'm feeling freaking left out. Why can't this be an issue I care about? What am I supposed to do, just sit here quietly waiting for this to blow over until something better to complain about comes along? This bites. I paid good money for this, and I want better drama to complain about. |
Wilhelm Neumann
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05-07-2007 13:10
For the record: I don't give a flying rip about the age verification issue. And I'm mad as hell about it. Maybe it's invasive, maybe it's necessary, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't.... big whoop. I can't bring myself to get all charged up and tell people they're wrong or being irrational, on either side of the pro/con argument, and I'm feeling freaking left out. Why can't this be an issue I care about? What am I supposed to do, just sit here quietly waiting for this to blow over until something better to complain about comes along? This bites. I paid good money for this, and I want better drama to complain about. well you can try voice chat or sculpted prims ![]() those two work as well I say go for voice chat ![]() |
Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
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05-07-2007 14:23
Rusty, go and get chained by a Gor slaver. Then you will have plenty to complain about.
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SqueezeOne Pow
World Changer
Join date: 21 Dec 2005
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05-07-2007 14:35
I just wonder where the "non-complaining" forum is...the one that talks about cool new things people found in SL...like unique builds or fun games.
Maybe I should complain about that! Then I wouldn't be complaining in a circle! THIS IS BULLS@$T!!! That was worth a premium account! I feel much better... _____________________
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
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05-07-2007 14:42
Squeeze it may be bullshit to you - but privacy and demands for proof of age etc. are very important to many of us in the world that dont take such things for granted. I have lived in many parts of the world where govts demand knowledge of all that one does. SL has just become another such authoritative body. Dont worry you will soon have plenty of space to build when many of us leave.
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Winter Phoenix
Voyager of Experiences
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"Hi"
05-07-2007 15:06
Just stopped in to say hi. Not sure what the hell this thread is about. Started with a question and then topics from a bunch of other threads came flying in. Including some people trying to hijack the thread and turn it into another friggin I DONT WANNA GET VERIFIED tirade. Now this thread smells like a big stinking, rancid buffet of chaos and jibberjabber. Ok, Im done complaining. *sticks fingers in ears and hums loudly to myself.
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SqueezeOne Pow
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05-07-2007 15:20
Squeeze it may be bullshit to you - but privacy and demands for proof of age etc. are very important to many of us in the world that dont take such things for granted. I have lived in many parts of the world where govts demand knowledge of all that one does. SL has just become another such authoritative body. Dont worry you will soon have plenty of space to build when many of us leave. Good...maybe that whole 30k people on the grid problem will ease up! ![]() But seriously, as I've stated on the many other Age Verification complaint threads, I don't really care. I won't give up my digits and I don't need to because I don't go to ponygirl and furry orgies. If you all want to that's fine with me. But since the company you get your kicks from decided to require an SSN for said activities then you should either put up or shut up. This isn't a country. It's a computer game/platform/3d chatroom/whorehouse/whatever that you are free to stop playing at any time. Don't trivialize the oppression of the people of countries by comparing it to age verification of a computer game you're addicted to. _____________________
Semper Fly
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Sunspot Pixie
dread heliotrope
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05-07-2007 15:55
But seriously, as I've stated on the many other Age Verification complaint threads, I don't really care. That is an oxymoronic statement. You "don't care", yet you make it your business to run around to the various threads and "set people straight". Yeah right. _____________________
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Atashi Yue
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05-07-2007 16:01
That is an oxymoronic statement. You "don't care", yet you make it your business to run around to the various threads and "set people straight". Yeah right. Pot/Kettle |
Sunspot Pixie
dread heliotrope
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05-07-2007 16:08
Pot/Kettle I have never stated I don't care, so you're being illogical. _____________________
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Joseph Abel
Leaves no pawprints...
Join date: 20 Aug 2006
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05-07-2007 16:11
I'd like to complain about the fact that this post:
For the record: I don't give a flying rip about the age verification issue. And I'm mad as hell about it. Maybe it's invasive, maybe it's necessary, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't.... big whoop. I can't bring myself to get all charged up and tell people they're wrong or being irrational, on either side of the pro/con argument, and I'm feeling freaking left out. Why can't this be an issue I care about? What am I supposed to do, just sit here quietly waiting for this to blow over until something better to complain about comes along? This bites. I paid good money for this, and I want better drama to complain about. forced me to laugh out loud in a crowded Starbucks money-sink...thereby illiciting looks of disdain and distrust from others present. It was not, however, enough for me to waste any of my overpriced flavored cofee upon my laptop...so bonus for me there!! |
SqueezeOne Pow
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05-07-2007 16:18
That is an oxymoronic statement. You "don't care", yet you make it your business to run around to the various threads and "set people straight". Yeah right. I don't see how it's contradictory. I'm not concerned with the age verification process because I will choose not to verify. I choose not to verify because I don't partake in the activities that will most likely be flagged as "adult content". I went into this thread to see what the "complaining" the OP was talking about might have been. My first reply had nothing to do with age verification but someone else brought it up. Man...never threaten an addict's stash! _____________________
Semper Fly
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Sunspot Pixie
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05-07-2007 16:24
I don't see how it's contradictory. I'm not concerned with the age verification process because I will choose not to verify. I choose not to verify because I don't partake in the activities that will most likely be flagged as "adult content". I went into this thread to see what the "complaining" the OP was talking about might have been. My first reply had nothing to do with age verification but someone else brought it up. Man...never threaten an addict's stash! I see, so you only care about ragging on people who do care, not the actual issue. That explains a lot, and no, I surely won't threaten your stash, apparently acting superior releases dopamine. Later. _____________________
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SqueezeOne Pow
World Changer
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05-07-2007 16:27
...apparently acting superior releases dopamine. Later. You seem to be getting a decent buzz off of it! _____________________
Semper Fly
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Gillian Vuckovic
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05-07-2007 16:33
No biscuits for any of you! Playtime is over, get back inside.
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