Accused Of Being A Child Avatar

OTOH, a 7-foot-tall child avie - now THAT would be freaky. (Betcha the kidhaters wouldn't mess with it though.)

You want worry? Play a kid avvie. There's sims I dojn't go to any more out of concern I could be ARed. I get to listen to people talk about how much they hate me, that I'm a pedophile and a pervert. Sometimes I even get "shot" -- all over my choice of avvie.

People griping because you're over 6'? That's nothing to worry about. Try being 3'9" for a while. :-/

Mari

GAH they need to fix the forums -

Its PROBABLY not a violation in SL. I doubt you are going to be able to stop ARs over nude child Avatars in public.

Im more interested in people knowing how tall they are. When they realize they are much taller then they thought they were - they wont consider short avatars child sized.

I think people should be able to be whatever size they want. Id be all for longer range height sliders that go from 1 foot to 10 feet or more.

Define freakish. My av is the equivalent of 6'4" or 6'5" in bare feet and she's probably average for my group of friends. How can average also be freakish? Actually, the only time I feel remotely big is around other nekos...apparently I didn't receive the memo advocating petite stature for the breed as a whole.

I really don't see what the big deal is about being 'average human height.' This is not real life, and we shouldn't have to worry about operating under real life constraints. I have cat eyes, ears, and a tail. A lot of my friends are vampires. A lot of other residents are anthro animals, robots, blobs of light, whatever, yet people are going to complain if the SL race as whole is a little enthusiastic about their height? That makes no sense to me.

not to be stubborn, but why? why should it matter to anyone what size or hieght anyone is?
the issue at hand is can portraying your RL hieght in world be an AR-able offense. some- how it got turned into a sort of Tall vs Mini debate. as i stated earlier to the OP, its YOUR second life, you should not have to live it to please others.

one should not be judged on what they wear, how they look, what they do, in a virtual world. there's enough of that garbage RL. what needs to be done is serious self checking(myself in some instances included) as to why we feel the need to apply our own standards to anothers. if you are happy being 5'5 then be 5'5, if you are happy being 12'12 then be 12'12, just stop trying to debate why others make the choices they do. and enjoy the scenery.

(steps off bilbo's soap box and shares elevensies with her)

I second that. It would be nice to not have to resort to various tricks (anims, big shoes, etc.) to make more outrageously big or small avs.

I'm already human sized in RL!!!

5'2" is short RL its not your fault

My Av is 5'8" in barefeet, and I'm dawfed by the majority of giants.

I think that 80% of your problem is the unrealistic heights people choose for their AV

the rest is the paranoia from the last months verification fiasco.

You could have a child avie with breast implants.

Although my avie is petite and relatively slim hipped, i.e., not an exaggerated hourglass shape, I have not yet been accused of being a child avie.

Didn't Randy Newman have a song about that a few decades ago?

Solution: LL awards a contract to someone to create a set of approved skins and shapes. Every resident has to use these and these only. We can even assign each of them an approppriate voice.

Funny thing, my alt who is a child avatar was accused of being another alt who is a child avatar, who got banned from several sims for sexual ageplay. They can never be more wrong. Now my main account, and my innocent child avatar are banned from several Estates.They really need to do some research on this and get their information correct.

OOhh that's good one. Being banned because you are suspected of being someone else allegedly doing something wrong........Calling Kafka Linden.

Simple Becuase most people who dont know their actual avatar height think they are shorter than they actually are numbers wise.

Most of the women in the mid 6 foot range think they are in the mid 5 foot range.

This is what leads them to perceive people who are ACTUALLY in the lower 5 foot range as child avatars.

If everyone KNEW they were taller than 6 feet tall .. then they wouldnt make assumptions of those people with a more realisitic height.

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2 years of selling and doing custom shapes kind of gives me a practical experience on this. Most women I have discussed this who were tall do not think their Avatar is well over 6 feet. They are really surprized to hear this.

Most keep their height though - but I think they see the world a tiny bit different. They stop making comments about my 5'5" avatar being short, for example.

I don't think anyone here was saying people shouldn't have freakishly tall avatars. It's just that people should be AWARE that they're freakishly tall, which may suit for their non-humans or vampires or catpeople or their group of friends that just likes being gigantic. That's all cool.

What's not cool is saying that anyone not 7' is playing a child, or that anything built for 'normal' size is useless. However, as has often been pointed out, a lot of this problem stems from the fact that people aren't generally aware of how tall their avatars ARE.

Be tall if you want to be! That's what the capability is there for. But that doesn't make everyone else dwarfs, children, or badly designed.

Conversely, having lots of randomly tall avatars makes it hard for people who want to really be tall for a reason to be seen as tall That bar got pushed to the max probably the first day of SL's existence.

Aha, but see that's because you just don't understand. The people who are too tall are doing that because they want everyone else to look like children, because, well, they're obviously pedophiles. So, yes, we should definitely start ARing anyone who is too tall, because they're sickos getting their jollies on everyone else looking like a child. How else do you explain the "scolding" behavior and, of course, by making the accusation that someone is a "highly sexualized child av" they are obviously thinking that way themselves.

This is humor, but meant to show a point. Namely that all these accusations are rubbish and meaningless.

-Jen

I still say that, if the majority of people in SL are 'freakishly tall,' then THAT becomes average in-world and (RL) average becomes freakishly short. Not that there's anything wrong with that...ya'll can be whatever kind of freak you like.

I think the freebie Little Red Riding Hood avatar was designed by a Linden.

coco

>>>I still say that, if the majority of people in SL are 'freakishly tall,' then THAT becomes average in-world and (RL) average becomes freakishly short. Not that there's anything wrong with that...ya'll can be whatever kind of freak you like<<<

I get what you're saying, and I know you don't mean anything but lighthearted fun by it. The problem is, there are quite a few people who take this notion quite seriously; they have decided they like the game on a grander scale than it was designed, and anyone who is trying to base their continuity ruler on the one that was built into the game should, in their view, be required to change and shift to their new and arbitrary ruler or be accused of various things.

A lot of people understandably balk at that.

Besides, from a game design point of view, it becomes troublesome if that idea really becomes the standard; people will then say "I can't be tall compared to all my friends and I want to be seen as tall. We need the dial to go to ELEVEN instead of TEN." (Kudos to people who get the reference).

If the system adjusts to the new concept of 'average' and then affords the new concept of 'tall', the bar simply and immediately shifts up and the ability to keep a consistent and useful measure goes even further out the window.

Be giants! That's cool! But you're still going to BE giants, and it has to stay that way for the system to maintain any sort of consistency. If you're the average giant in your neighborhood, that's a whole different rubric than other folks are using but that's all right if it's understood.

Fiona, you must meet much stranger people than I do, if they take SL that seriously. I certainly see things I find odd in-world, but I wouldn't ever try to dictate someone's appearance to them, and neither would anyone I know. Diversity is what keeps things interesting.

And, oh yeah, Spinal Tap baby! lol

Personally I'm 5'11" IRL and have a version of my av that is COMPLETELY proportioned to how I look IRL...gut and all! I had to adjust it a little bit so I didn't look like a kid with sideburns and a goatee!

One thing I notice is the people that are more creative and are going for the "actual human" style av tend to make things as realistic as possible. I'm usually surrounded by people like this more than the tall guido-looking guys in "club gear" and blinged up.

As for the OP...maybe she should AR the people that accused her for harassment!

As if people should really have to worry about neurotics repressing their own pedophilic impulses and therefore overreacting to anything that reminds them of those sick impulses. I would suggest your avatar assuming your most adult, thundering-from-the-pulpit manner, and telling them they are sick and to get out of SL and not return until they have gotten an ok from their psychiatrists. (Smoking a cigar, as suggested by someone else, just might be useful here : ).)

As for being banned from entire sims, it might be worth contacting the owner of the sim and seeing if they can be reasoned with - they may have been bulldozed by somebody, you know. If not, hey, do you really want to go there and visit with certified whackos anyway?

I'm a little confused by this sentence...are you saying people who choose realistic avs are more creative? Because, as a whole, I think furries are the most creative residents on the grid...although, of course, my gigantic friends are all universally talented and creative as well. Or is it just that if they're creative AND going the human route, they prefer realism from their avs?



Um, what? How does tall equate with "unable to dress themselves"?

I've always had a short av, about 4'-8" without heels. In 4 years of SL, I have never been accused of being a child avatar. Then again, Teeny does have breasteses, so I guess people assume she's an adult.

I would have done this but I didn't know I could. Now I know i can.