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Nepenthes Ixchel
Broadly Offended.
Join date: 6 Dec 2005
Posts: 696
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05-24-2007 18:53
my avie has always been 6'1, due to the fact that i wear glasses. and sit only so close to the screen. I'm not sure that I follow this chain of logic... can I have a child avatar because I wear contacts and sit back from a large monitor?  Scarily that makes as much sense as anything LL has said on this issue. |
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
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05-24-2007 19:18
It won't be the first time someone has considered being short a moral failure.
coco _____________________
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Racal Hanner
Ghost
Join date: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 406
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05-25-2007 00:34
Don't worry about it Nessa.LL include a child av in the library...Clothing/More Outfits/Little Red Riding Hood..seems to me if it can't against ToS/CS to roleplay a kid.
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Jules Whittlesea
Registered User
Join date: 20 Oct 2006
Posts: 35
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05-25-2007 00:37
I think a big part of the problem is an Education One - People dont KNOW what 5 foot tall is. I think what needs to be done is to vastly increase the availbility of height detectors in Second Life. So people KNOW how tall they are. When they realize they are an insane 7 foot height, they will realize not all shorter avs are children. ... Linden Labs needs to include a Avatar Ruler in the basic Inventory for all new avatars. Im going to add a Freebie / free to copy av ruler in my store locations. If anyone needs one , IM me and Ill send you one. I've recently shrunk my av to 6'1"and started making all om my furniture and doors standard hights. Gimungous avs can't get in. Oh, and they have a hight detector with a gage saying you must be this tall to enter.  |
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bilbo99 Emu
Garrett's No.1 fan
Join date: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 3,468
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05-25-2007 01:13
Don't worry about it Nessa.LL include a child av in the library...Clothing/More Outfits/Little Red Riding Hood..seems to me if it can't against ToS/CS to roleplay a kid. Hey! that's it! Tonight, let's all storm the nude beach and have a Little Red Riding Hood Convention  _____________________
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Mandy Carbenell
Recent Item
Join date: 27 Dec 2006
Posts: 847
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05-25-2007 01:20
Hey! that's it! Tonight, let's all storm the nude beach and have a Little Red Riding Hood Convention Uhmm...little red riding ho...bbit? You'd look so cute bilbo! *runs* Mandy C _____________________
Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level.
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Jeude Mills
Registered User
Join date: 29 Apr 2007
Posts: 14
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05-25-2007 02:23
this thread cought my attention, My av is teeny short. I think Im about 4'6" or something like that. I haven't ran into any problems yet, but I also have my group title of guitar teacher on at all times. It seems to help, it's the first thing people see, before they see me even
I think there's a group for the advocacy of reasonable avatar hights, I'll post it up if I can find it. But, I think the monacres help define the character. Hey, when in doubt too, hover text works. |
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Ace Albion
Registered User
Join date: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 866
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05-25-2007 05:28
There's a woman at my workplace who's barely over 4" tall, and in proportion. I think she'd (rightly) be offended at accusations of being a child.
All short people are shifty though. Hitler was short. Just saying... _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
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05-25-2007 05:29
There's a woman at my workplace who's barely over 4" tall, and in proportion. I think she'd (rightly) be offended at accusations of being a child. All short people are shifty though. Hitler was short. Just saying... Well that brings the Age Play issue full circle....... _____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
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bilbo99 Emu
Garrett's No.1 fan
Join date: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 3,468
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05-25-2007 05:34
Hitler was short. Just saying... Alexander the Great .. Napoleon ... did you not watch Sir Ian Holm in Time Bandits?  _____________________
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bilbo99 Emu
Garrett's No.1 fan
Join date: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 3,468
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05-25-2007 05:37
Uhmm...little red riding ho...bbit? You'd look so cute bilbo! *runs* Mandy C You already do .. and besides .. a cloak would be nothing new to me _____________________
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Warda Kawabata
Amityville Horror
Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 1,300
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05-25-2007 05:39
Well that brings the Age Play issue full circle....... I just had a mental image of a little bo peep avatar doing a Hitler av in the rear with her crook. Can someone help me unthink that thought please? _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
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05-25-2007 05:40
I just had a mental image of a little bo peep avatar doing a Hitler av in the rear with her crook. Can someone help me unthink that thought please? Quick, get the SkyNews crew over there. _____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
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bilbo99 Emu
Garrett's No.1 fan
Join date: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 3,468
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05-25-2007 06:13
Quick, get the SkyNews crew over there. but only if they're verified .. don't want to corrupt little minds! _____________________
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Brigid Yoshikawa
Crazed Nutchucking Skwerl
Join date: 28 Mar 2007
Posts: 44
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Retail Considerations
05-25-2007 06:39
It is disturbing to see people pointing and screaming at avis they suspect of unsavory intentions due to no other factors other then height or even body proportions. Reminds me of the last scene from Invasion of the Body Snatchers. It looks as if it is already getting out of hand - hope it can be reeled in.
Something that occurred to me while reading this thread is that height and even body proportions and boobage quantity still are terribly inaccurate measures for whether an avi is a child or not, and then from there whether they are engaging in nasty business or not. This bugs me because I am spending quite a bit of time right now working on a full series of avs based off of a line of Manga inspired fairies I drew in real life. http://www.ashwood-arts.com/Galleries/Fairy/phunkyphairies.htm Many people would consider these child-like, as that is the aesthetic of Manga style art. Yet to me these creatures are neither child nor adult. They are FAIRY. Wondering now if I should modify the body shape I have been working on for these avs. Should I mar the vision I have by lengthening proportions and pushing up the height just to avoid suspicion and possible unfair ramifications. I would hate to think I have to - and would hate to think that sales on what promises to be a quality product would suffer simply due to this sillieness. I suspect that other builders and content creators have had the same concerns. Interested to hear thoughts. Just my .02 |
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Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
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05-25-2007 06:41
It is disturbing to see people pointing and screaming at avis they suspect of unsavory intentions due to no other factors other then height or even body proportions. Reminds me of the last scene from Invasion of the Body Snatchers. It looks as if it is already getting out of hand - hope it can be reeled in.. OMG what a fantastic analogy. That scene always creeps me out. _____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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05-25-2007 07:04
There's a woman at my workplace who's barely over 4" tall, and in proportion. I think she'd (rightly) be offended at accusations of being a child. All short people are shifty though. Hitler was short. Just saying... Godwined in a little over 100 posts. Mari _____________________
 "There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden |
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Maggie McArdle
FIOS hates puppies
Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 2,855
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05-25-2007 08:08
I'm not sure that I follow this chain of logic... can I have a child avatar because I wear contacts and sit back from a large monitor? Scarily that makes as much sense as anything LL has said on this issue. yet another reason for me not to post onthe forums while sleepy. yeah that sounds very LLish and i apologise. i tend to sit back from my monitor with my key board in my lap, so i just keep mine at her size which i have stated is like 6'-6'1, so i can see her, and until i figure out why my cam angles are screwed(if this still dont make sense im sorry still loading up on coffee) and as my ava has been the same hieght more or less since i have joined i saw no reason to change it. my partner however is at His RL hieght of 6'2, does that make him a freak? my point is seems everyone wants someone to conform to thier views, in some shape or form. somesay anyone over rl hieght is a "freak", while others say anyone below that is a kid? in readign some of these posts, what makes you or anyone else different from the guy who was gonna ar the OP for living her SL? _____________________
There's, uh, probably a lot of things you didn't know about lindens. Another, another interesting, uh, lindenism, uh, there are only three jobs available to a linden. The first is making shoes at night while, you know, while the old cobbler sleeps.You can bake cookies in a tree. But the third job, some call it, uh, "the show" or "the big dance," it's the profession that every linden aspires to.
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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05-25-2007 08:12
in readign some of these posts, what makes you or anyone else different from the guy who was gonna ar the OP for living her SL? Well, I dun tink anyone is gonna AR anyone for bein too tall. Mari (who's in-world mom is near 6'5", and who's in-world dad is taller. And who, thanks to SL's height limits, is a 3'9" 4 1/2 year old) _____________________
"There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden |
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Maggie McArdle
FIOS hates puppies
Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 2,855
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05-25-2007 08:14
Well, I dun tink anyone is gonna AR anyone for bein too tall. Mari (who's in-world mom is near 6'5", and who's in-world dad is taller. And who, thanks to SL's height limits, is a 3'9" 4 1/2 year old) i dunno Mari, theres a group of advocates for reasonable hieghts, im gettin freakin worried now Kafka anyone? _____________________
There's, uh, probably a lot of things you didn't know about lindens. Another, another interesting, uh, lindenism, uh, there are only three jobs available to a linden. The first is making shoes at night while, you know, while the old cobbler sleeps.You can bake cookies in a tree. But the third job, some call it, uh, "the show" or "the big dance," it's the profession that every linden aspires to.
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Najmah Handayani
(aka Toy LaFollette)
Join date: 26 Nov 2006
Posts: 154
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05-25-2007 08:17
i dunno Mari, theres a group of advocates for reasonable hieghts, im gettin freakin worried now Kafka anyone? I wouldnt worry there's no definition of "reasonable height" _____________________
"We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors ... but they all have to learn to live in the same box."
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Fiona Branagh
... or her equivalent.
Join date: 1 Feb 2007
Posts: 156
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05-25-2007 08:22
>>>my partner however is at His RL hieght of 6'2, does that make him a freak?<<
I don't see why it would. 6'2" is tallish for a man in RL but very common. Besides, it's at his RL height which sort of indicates it's realistic, doesn't it. This is not to say that people need to have avatars that match their real life height, of course. When we're talking about freakishly tall, we mean freakishly tall, not stuff in average human range. |
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Ann Launay
Neko-licious™
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 7,893
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05-25-2007 08:30
Something that occurred to me while reading this thread is that height and even body proportions and boobage quantity still are terribly inaccurate measures for whether an avi is a child or not Absolutely...by my RL 12th birthday, I was already 5'5" (taller than a lot of adult women) and had distinct breasts and hips. I still felt like a child, but didn't entirely look like one, and I know there are girls who developed earlier and more substantially than I had by that age. You know that old saying about not judging a book by its cover? Well, I see enough prejudice based on appearance in RL...it may be wishful thinking, but I'd really rather not see it our fantasy realm as well. _____________________
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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut. |
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Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
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05-25-2007 08:36
7 foot avatars arent freaks -
Its only if they KNEW they were 7 feet tall - they wouldnt assume 5 foot tall avatars were Child Avies. |
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Kidd Krasner
Registered User
Join date: 1 Jan 2007
Posts: 1,938
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05-25-2007 08:42
If I AR a child av it is 1.) because they are an obvious child(based on proportions and are wearing inappropriate attire z.B bdsm gear or other adult attachments 2.) because of what their profile says( I am respectful of adults , or anything like that with a picks area filled with sex stuff or pedo palaces) and 3.) their groups like lil' (insert sex related thing here) or Preeeen S***ts. So they have to be engaged in obivious sexual things while dressed as a child before I would AR them,and I would just ar them and not taunt them or anything childish. With all the discussion about what makes an av a child, the other half of the question, about adult activity, has fallen through the cracks of this thread. But this note needs to be corrected. None of the things listed are violations, except for the phrase "engaged in obvious sexual things while dressed as a child". Wearing a costume isn't a sexual activity, nor is having genitals, nor is belonging to groups that are about sex, nor is having picks that refer to sexual activity. Actually engaging in sex is the activity in question. A person might well have a single identity with multiple avs, instead of paying the $9.95 for an alt. You can keep two or more shapes around, one child like, one adult, and only allow the adult av to participate in adult activities. A person shouldn't be forced to clear out their groups or picks just because they switch shapes and clothing. A kid wearing leather cuffs is a fashion statement, no more. And a kid walking on a nude beach, whether dressed or nude, is a difference of opinion, but not illegal in real life nor a violation in SL. |