Griefers gone to far
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Angelique LaFollette
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Join date: 17 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,595
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12-12-2006 18:18
From: Matteo Harris rollback has allready been refused. and he did not get sick of having a popular place. It was hit and taken out. It must not be Possible to Roll Back a shared Sim then, Ah well, he can always rebuild. I always Keep copies of my Builds in my Inventory, So if an accident Happens, it takes me Ten Minutes to Fix it. I would be Intetrested in Knowing Exactly how it was done, But TOS forbids discussing specifics of Exploits in the Forums. This is one i would Have to see to Fully Believe. Angel.
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Sweet Valentine
Cupids I&D
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 39
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total lack of support in any situation
12-12-2006 19:45
Lindens were asked by many people to help in this situation and all refused.. all you get is contact support via email... well when you contact support NO ONE ever answers EVER it was like pulling teeth to even get one to come and see an item on simon and toms land to check the script inside it.... by the time the linden arrived it had vanished.... i guess we were cutting into her play time and supporting the customers and residents of SL wasnt her priority. Just remember when your playing there is REAL people behind the avatars a thing that many in this game forget. I have also been a victim of such griefers many read and reply to these forums and you should be ashamed as should lindens for not having any support for the players in this game there is no excuse for this.... without your residents you would have NO PAYCHECK just remember that... Tom and Simon i hope you and everyone at wheelies is back in business soon and show these idiots that nothing can defeat your dreams
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Gillian Waldman
Buttercup
Join date: 1 Oct 2006
Posts: 697
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12-12-2006 19:57
If this is accurate, sounds like a situation the media (in world and maybe out) would be interested in. There must be something that can be done to help him out.
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FD Spark
Prim & Texture Doodler
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 4,697
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12-12-2006 20:28
What is a Banlink and how does one use it? I am starting to get more vistors I don't want to close off the place but I don't really want the bs that goes with having open lot or know much these days or waste prims on those red invisible lines. I was at this camping spot a few days ago that got some weird green fog sent on all the dancers. I thought it was part of the scenery and it was annoying I was almost about ready to leave and never come back when I asked about the green fog. It was grief attack. I didn't know it was. I hate to have that happen. I noticed someone has been able to send me bubbles on my property its not annoying but I didn't think that someone could do that without having accept to do scripts on my land and scripts build and edit terrian and push isn't allowed on property.
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FD Spark
Prim & Texture Doodler
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12-12-2006 20:30
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Sue Han
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Join date: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 10
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12-13-2006 06:04
From: Sweet Valentine Lindens were asked by many people to help in this situation and all refused.. all you get is contact support via email... well when you contact support NO ONE ever answers EVER it was like pulling teeth to even get one to come and see an item on simon and toms land to check the script inside it.... by the time the linden arrived it had vanished.... i guess we were cutting into her play time and supporting the customers and residents of SL wasnt her priority. Just remember when your playing there is REAL people behind the avatars a thing that many in this game forget. I have also been a victim of such griefers many read and reply to these forums and you should be ashamed as should lindens for not having any support for the players in this game there is no excuse for this.... without your residents you would have NO PAYCHECK just remember that... Tom and Simon i hope you and everyone at wheelies is back in business soon and show these idiots that nothing can defeat your dreams You are the gal that sells freebies aren't you? I BET people are harassing you about that.  And oh now I remember.....Matteo is your partner who ALSO sells freebies, ACK!
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Sweet Valentine
Cupids I&D
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 39
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12-13-2006 07:33
Sue Han i do not sell freebies and you are one of the griefers that was involved in harrassing my business and myself and my partner you need to get your facts straight and this is not a forum about freebies its about what happened to Simon and Toms land From People like yourself that love to harrass and intimidate people grow up already
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Cher Harrington
Audio Consultant
Join date: 2 Jul 2005
Posts: 154
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12-13-2006 08:10
Here is the message that was received: ...objects have been returned to your inventory lost and found folder by Wheelies near parcel 'Stevensville - The Disability Sim' at Onnuri 137.507, 33.0932 due to parcel owner return.
There was no bombing, no nuke.
Due to Parcel Owner Return.
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Xio Jester
Killed the King.
Join date: 13 Nov 2006
Posts: 813
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12-13-2006 08:23
From: Adz Childs I've seen stationary, non-physical prims wiped out by nukes. I'm not sure how it works or how much nuking it takes, but it happens. After club was attacked, it was missing a few cubes that make up the floor, and a couple of cube-shaped vendors. It probably took several nukes to achieve that... but still its kinda scary and puzzling. Has anyone else seen this before? WHAT??? No...never seen that happen...I had no idea that was even possible w/ SL weapons. I'm surprised more kids dont have em then. The "nukes" I've seen couldnt even get through my shields.
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Cher Harrington
Audio Consultant
Join date: 2 Jul 2005
Posts: 154
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12-13-2006 08:36
The Lindens cant do a roll back if the parcel owner returned everything...
I think Wheelies is closed for the month of December anyway?
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bladyblue Bommerang
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Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 646
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12-13-2006 08:37
Yes there are SL weapons that can move prims. I have repaired a sidewalk several times becuse a tenant of mine is being greifed by bombers. The sidewalk prims just go everywhere and roof prims are angled differently and have to be replaced. I sent the pictures in with the name of the bomber as a abuse report. Even banning from a private island won't keep the bomber away.
The people that bombed and destroyed a venue associated with the handicapped should be considered as people that were involved in a hate crime and should be banned immediately. Will Linden Lab step up and deal with this appropiately? From what I've seen if it doesnt effect Linden Lab's bottom line (Voted 5 taking the CC info or hundreds of retailers rioting (copybot) LL will just wait for it all to go away.
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Cher Harrington
Audio Consultant
Join date: 2 Jul 2005
Posts: 154
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12-13-2006 08:42
From: bladyblue Bommerang
The people that bombed and destroyed a venue associated with the handicapped should be considered as people that were involved in a hate crime and should be banned immediately. Will Linden Lab step up and deal with this appropiately? From what I've seen if it doesnt effect Linden Lab's bottom line (Voted 5 taking the CC info or hundreds of retailers rioting (copybot) LL will just wait for it all to go away.
Hello? "Due to Parcel Owner Return".... No hate crime, no need to go on. Lindens cant assist if one of the group owners returned everything...
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bladyblue Bommerang
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Posts: 646
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12-13-2006 08:57
From: Cher Harrington Hello?
"Due to Parcel Owner Return"....
No hate crime, no need to go on. Lindens cant assist if one of the group owners returned everything... My harrassed tenant was being pelted by fish last night. Then the greifers put a alpha prim blocking his entrance. He and his customers could'nt leave the store through the door. Being new players they panicked and turned on auto return to make it all stop. The greifers actions made him wipe his own land. This happens quite frequently.
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Kasi Tandino
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Join date: 12 Apr 2006
Posts: 111
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12-13-2006 09:04
The sidewalk prims just go everywhere and roof prims are angled differently and have to be replaced.
These prims did not go "everywhere". They went back to the owners due to parcel return.
The people that bombed and destroyed a venue associated with the handicapped should be considered as people that were involved in a hate crime and should be banned immediately.
Crying out hate crimes is rediculous and feeds on more hate. I know Simon, he has a very good head on his shoulders and his handicap in no way makes him less reliable or responsible for his actions. Instead of inspiring more hate and making this an issue about it being a disability night club so therefore should endure more punishment...take a look at what the people involved it outright are telling you. You were quoted the returned message from one of those people yet to chose to ignore the fact that it was RETURNED BY OWNER in favor of creating a new issue about how he was targetted by some hateful person because he was disabled.
Disabled physically or not, Simon has his full brain in operation.
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bladyblue Bommerang
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Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 646
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12-13-2006 09:10
Kasi land owners turn on auto return and turn build off to stop replicating objects. Greifers don't always randomly choose their targets and ignorance is not a defense for them.
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Allana Dion
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Join date: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 1,230
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12-13-2006 09:18
From: bladyblue Bommerang Even banning from a private island won't keep the bomber away.... (explanation as to how)....... Whatever the true situation here is, and it sounds like no one really knows except Simon, I hope it all gets resolved. It's very unfortunate. However posting exploits is always a bad idea. Bladyblue, would you please go back and delete the section you posted about how people manage to get past ban lists? That just basically gave a lot of potential griefers pretty easy instructions, if it actually does work.
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Kasi Tandino
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Join date: 12 Apr 2006
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12-13-2006 09:20
From: bladyblue Bommerang Kasi land owners turn on auto return and turn build off to stop replicating objects. Greifers don't always randomly choose their targets and ignorance is not a defense for them. In this case it was not autoreturned because the person had dropped something and left it there. This was an officer in the group that had helped create Wheelies. They were not disgruntled, have no way of "nuking" it out of existance. Please bladyblue, before you claim to know about ignorance of a situation, look at what you are assuming about what I have said. You assume Simon was a victim of an attack with no proof saying anything other than he returned the items to thier owners (who is still a freind of his). The items returned were not just temporary items, they were PART of the club. One of two things happened here. Either Simon or his partner got sick of running the club and decided to return it all and start over....or someone who had permission to modify the clubs prims got pissed off and destroyed it. No bomber came and destroyed 678 prims with some supernuke. I have not seen one thing from Simon here in this thread saying what happened from his point. I respect Simon as a friend and business man but this is just way to conincidental to the timing of him wanting to change wheelies into something else and the idea was rejected by the rest of the "staff".
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bladyblue Bommerang
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12-13-2006 09:20
From: Allana Dion Whatever the true situation here is, and it sounds like no one really knows except Simon, I hope it all gets resolved. It's very unfortunate.
However posting exploits is always a bad idea. Bladyblue, would you please go back and delete the section you posted about how people manage to get past ban lists? That just basically gave a lot of potential griefers pretty easy instructions, if it actually does work. OK. I did read in the notes for this update that this may be fixed this afternoon. We shall see.
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bladyblue Bommerang
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12-13-2006 09:27
From: Kasi Tandino In this case it was not autoreturned because the person had dropped something and left it there. This was an officer in the group that had helped create Wheelies. They were not disgruntled, have no way of "nuking" it out of existance. Please bladyblue, before you claim to know about ignorance of a situation, look at what you are assuming about what I have said. You assume Simon was a victim of an attack with no proof saying anything other than he returned the items to thier owners (who is still a freind of his). The items returned were not just temporary items, they were PART of the club.
One of two things happened here. Either Simon or his partner got sick of running the club and decided to return it all and start over....or someone who had permission to modify the clubs prims got pissed off and destroyed it. No bomber came and destroyed 678 prims with some supernuke.
I have not seen one thing from Simon here in this thread saying what happened from his point. I respect Simon as a friend and business man but this is just way to conincidental to the timing of him wanting to change wheelies into something else and the idea was rejected by the rest of the "staff". Kasi, your all up in this guy's business. The thread starter said it was attacked and we were to respond to that. Your assumptions are no better than anyone elses. No need to blame the victim and spread your version of his personal activities and relationships in a public forum.
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Allana Dion
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Join date: 12 Jul 2005
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12-13-2006 09:30
From: bladyblue Bommerang OK. I did read in the notes for this update that this may be fixed this afternoon. We shall see. Hope so.... and Ty 
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Kasi Tandino
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Join date: 12 Apr 2006
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12-13-2006 09:32
From: bladyblue Bommerang Kasi, your all up in this guy's business. The thread starter said it was attacked and we were to respond to that. Your assumptions are no better than anyone elses. No need to blame the victim and spread your version of his personal activities and relationships in a public forum. Yes and so and so said the moon was made of cheese so lets all debate that for a while and forget that maybe so and so who started the rumor may not have all his facts straight 
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
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12-13-2006 09:57
From: Sweet Valentine Lindens were asked by many people to help in this situation and all refused.. all you get is contact support via email... well when you contact support NO ONE ever answers EVER it was like pulling teeth to even get one to come and see an item on simon and toms land to check the script inside it.... by the time the linden arrived it had vanished.... i guess we were cutting into her play time and supporting the customers and residents of SL wasnt her priority. Just remember when your playing there is REAL people behind the avatars a thing that many in this game forget. I have also been a victim of such griefers many read and reply to these forums and you should be ashamed as should lindens for not having any support for the players in this game there is no excuse for this.... without your residents you would have NO PAYCHECK just remember that... Tom and Simon i hope you and everyone at wheelies is back in business soon and show these idiots that nothing can defeat your dreams This is the reason i refuse to go back to a premium account. LL doesn't put up enough support to deserve my money. Their Support team tottaly sucks!
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
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12-13-2006 10:00
From: FD Spark What is a Banlink and how does one use it? That you will need to talk to Travis about. Go back a few post's to where he posted the info. The guy with the forum avatar of the brian the dog. Hes a very nice guy and can set you up with a copy of the system with instructions on how to use it.
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
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12-13-2006 10:03
From: bladyblue Bommerang Yes there are SL weapons that can move prims. I have repaired a sidewalk several times becuse a tenant of mine is being greifed by bombers. The sidewalk prims just go everywhere and roof prims are angled differently and have to be replaced. I sent the pictures in with the name of the bomber as a abuse report. Even banning from a private island won't keep the bomber away. The people that bombed and destroyed a venue associated with the handicapped should be considered as people that were involved in a hate crime and should be banned immediately. Will Linden Lab step up and deal with this appropiately? From what I've seen if it doesnt effect Linden Lab's bottom line (Voted 5 taking the CC info or hundreds of retailers rioting (copybot) LL will just wait for it all to go away. By any chance are the prims that are being moved, showing on the first edit tab as "share with group?" if not i duno how this is done. I would like someone to show me in world sometime. without being a griefer of course. 
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Allana Dion
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Join date: 12 Jul 2005
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12-13-2006 10:09
From: Yiffy Yaffle By any chance are the prims that are being moved, showing on the first edit tab as "share with group?" if not i duno how this is done. I would like someone to show me in world sometime. without being a griefer of course.  That's where it becomes more likely that the OP is himself misunderstanding the situation. It isn't (from what I can tell) a few prims or even a large section of prims that was moved. From what I can see the entire club is simply gone. That implies that the person who owns the land or an officer in the land group must have done it. It's very possible that there was a minor griefer attack and someone simply decided that was the last straw and closed up.
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