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Rockwell Ginsberg

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05-18-2007 06:39

From: Jig Chippewa

I am collector or SL art...

I don't know who the first was, but Starax Statosky's art is the rarest because he left the game and doesn't sell his work anymore. I've got a few of his pieces on display in Da Boom...

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Jig Chippewa

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05-18-2007 06:48

Thanks Rock!
I look at my art collection and can see a real change in art movements here - and prices are shooting up.
It is best thing about sl. Well, that and my partners.

Jig Chippewa

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05-18-2007 06:50

From: Pie Psaltery

This link might interest you, Jig:

SL History Wiki

Thanks Pie! I add it to my favourites page!

Jig Chippewa

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05-18-2007 06:53

I would really like to see some houses "protected" for the future - my own houses were built by my ex-partner who was a Real Life architect and designer. They are truly lovely and thoughtful. I have seen many places here that need to be documented. Is anyone willing to do so?

FD Spark

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05-18-2007 06:55

From: bilbo99 Emu
Hey FD!! If you do ever reinstate Dagon Grimm you simply must walk around the first day with a box on his head .. for old times sake :D[/QUOTE

I will if I do.
Recently I made very tiny griefer doll with no pants and box on his head.
He is about under .500 give or take.
If I can find him I give you copy if you send me hello in world later, much later because I am going to sleep.
I will wear a box on my head as Dagon Grimm but I won't wonder around with no pants.
Took me weeks first time to figure out how to get dressed in beta.

Darien Caldwell

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05-18-2007 11:59

From: Colette Meiji

The oldest AVs are a bit more than 3 years older than you.

I know several from Mid 2003 that still show up hehe, but the oldest are from 2002.

Search for the group "Early Beta Members". Lots of fossils in that group, including Phillip Linden hehe.

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Robyn York

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05-18-2007 12:59

From: Teeny Leviathan

I am the 2nd oldest resident to post here. Robyn York is 11 days older.

I'm considering botox and maybe some work around my eyes.

I was trying to find the link to the old website... it's archived somewhere on the net. It looked very different and there were some great beta-looking screenshots. Lots of default Linden hair on those avatars. I think Linden hair should make a comeback.

If anyone can find it please post the link! Maybe some of you history buffs have it. Paging Eggy Lippman or Oz Spade!

Nichiren Dinzeo

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06-12-2007 19:57

I want to thank everyone for posting to my thread here. It has helped out group to set caches at historical locations in hopes of helping those new to sl to learn about this history of sl...and to have fund searching for caches in the meantime.... slgeocaching.com

Isablan Neva

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06-12-2007 20:02

From: Robyn York

If anyone can find it please post the link! Maybe some of you history buffs have it. Paging Eggy Lippman or Oz Spade!

Even better than a link (courtesy of the Internet Archive WayBack Machine):

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.secondlife.com

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Najmah Handayani

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06-12-2007 20:20

maybe look up some of these people and ask them

Alpha started on March 2002, under the name Linden World. The first residents were Steller Sunshine and Paul Zeeman. Other notable Alpha members include Mac Beach, Flyk Escher, BuhBuhCuh Fairchild, and bUTTONpUSHER Jones.

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Jig Chippewa

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06-12-2007 20:57

I still say that interested parties should get together and organize an "historical group"; I am proud to own a beautiful house in Chaska designed by a real life architect that should be preserved. Many new people arrive each day with a genuine interest in SL. By the way, I will shortly be opening a museum/gallery that will display works by artists from across SL that will be free admission (NO tip boxes) - I just ask that people will donate a few dollars to a REAL charity of their choice afterwards. When gallery is finally up and running I shall note it in the forum. I think people should be aware that we have great artists here. I have enjoyed collecting the art - now it is time for everyone to enjoy the pieces too.

Malichai Muse

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01-20-2010 23:26

I will add myself to the old timer list

for the win.. oldest I know is Phaylen Fairchild 12/31/2002

Kenbro Utu

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01-20-2010 23:52

From: Malichai Muse

I will add myself to the old timer list

for the win.. oldest I know is Phaylen Fairchild 12/31/2002

How bizarre... You wait almost 7 years to make your first post here, and it is to resurrect a thread that is almost 3 years old. Hey oldtimer. :^)

Jig Chippewa

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01-20-2010 23:52

My land in Mimas is the site of the first nightclub in SL, owned by David Valentino. It's one of the first pieces of land ever made.

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01-21-2010 00:00

At:

http://slurl.com/secondlife/I-World%20Island/18/179/23

There is a prim that dates to:

Mon Feb 11 12:12:30 2002.

Its labeled by the Lindens as the first prim.

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Kelderek Kilda

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01-21-2010 01:45

From: Porky Gorky

I recently met an Av with a birth date of 2017. Either the profile was borked or future SL residents have discovered time travel.

Can't be. We all know that the old Maya calender ends in December 2012. This of course includes SL, so when the Big Unrezzing of the Prims begins in a little less than three years from now, even this resident will face the inevitable account cancellation!

Johan Laurasia

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01-21-2010 02:57

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

We won't really know the oldest parcel in SL until the parcel age verification program takes effect.

Don't quite see your logic connection between the age of parcels and age verification, but, in all actuality, sims are older than parcels. In the early days, sims were not sub'd into parcels rather they were one 64k sq meter sim and that's it. Parcels came along because "prim hogs" were taking up all the prims in the sim, so a system to split up prims was devised (by creating parcels that received the appropriate amount of prims based on the size of the parcel), to stop prim hogs from soaking up all the prims in a sim.

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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01-21-2010 03:32

From: Johan Laurasia

Don't quite see your logic

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01-21-2010 03:42

From: Johan Laurasia

Don't quite see your logic connection between the age of parcels and age verification, but, in all actuality, sims are older than parcels. In the early days, sims were not sub'd into parcels rather they were one 64k sq meter sim and that's it. Parcels came along because "prim hogs" were taking up all the prims in the sim, so a system to split up prims was devised (by creating parcels that received the appropriate amount of prims based on the size of the parcel), to stop prim hogs from soaking up all the prims in a sim.

Wow.

This is the 2nd or 3rd time i have seen you put out false information about what SL was or could do in the past.

We could always subdivide sims into Parcels.

*I* was the prim hog that sparked the prim war in November that ultimately led to parcel prim limits. http://secondlife.wikia.com/wiki/Prim_hog & /invalid_link.html

*I* was one of a few who gave ideas on how to stop prim hogging, and my idea just happened to be in use still now. /invalid_link.html

The only thing accurate you did say is that 1 person - like me - could come into a sim and hog the majority of the prims from everyone else - and back then we only had 10,000 per sim, not 15,000.

And once again - YOU COULD SUBDIVIDE SIMS INTO PARCELS EXACTLY LIKE TODAY.

Stop giving off your bad 411 guy.

kthxbai

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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01-21-2010 03:44

Worse than that he didn't get my joke.

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Couldbe Yue

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01-21-2010 03:52

This is has been my fave sl vid for a while now..

enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=georgeorwell1984#p/u/1/KHH2CAE9Y6o

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01-21-2010 04:02

I have some group land in the old Shipley sim.
The Claim Date in the About Land is given as December 2003 -- although the land was acquired in July 2008.
It was won at Auction, and it seems the claim date wasn't amended at it would be in a normal purchase.

I have some parcels in Jessie combat sim. The prims in the section of the old Outlands Jessie Wall on the Northern edge of the sim date back to October 2002.
The creator is Secret2 Linden with a rez date of July 2002, and an otherwise blank Profile.

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01-21-2010 07:39

From: Kelderek Kilda

Can't be. We all know that the old Maya calender ends in December 2012. This of course includes SL, so when the Big Unrezzing of the Prims begins in a little less than three years from now, even this resident will face the inevitable account cancellation!

pfft, like the stargazing mayans knew anything... everyone knows Dennis Ritchie was more of a visionary and that time ends in 2038 on tues, jan 19th at 3:14:07... then it starts anew in 1901 on fri dec 13th at 20:45:52... celebrated with an early weekend and an early christmas =)

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01-21-2010 07:44

SL is really a world of itself when people are discussing the first prim rezzed.

Such cool history.

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Whoever resurrected this thread need t become on obstacle on the snail race track.

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oldest placed in secondlife?
Rockwell Ginsberg Boss Join date: 3 Oct 2006 Posts: 560	05-18-2007 06:39 From: Jig Chippewa I am collector or SL art... I don't know who the first was, but Starax Statosky's art is the rarest because he left the game and doesn't sell his work anymore. I've got a few of his pieces on display in Da Boom... _____________________ I buy mainland! Contact me for a quote!
Jig Chippewa Fine Young Cannibal Join date: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 5,150	05-18-2007 06:48 Thanks Rock! I look at my art collection and can see a real change in art movements here - and prices are shooting up. It is best thing about sl. Well, that and my partners.
Jig Chippewa Fine Young Cannibal Join date: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 5,150	05-18-2007 06:50 From: Pie Psaltery This link might interest you, Jig: SL History Wiki Thanks Pie! I add it to my favourites page!
Jig Chippewa Fine Young Cannibal Join date: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 5,150	05-18-2007 06:53 I would really like to see some houses "protected" for the future - my own houses were built by my ex-partner who was a Real Life architect and designer. They are truly lovely and thoughtful. I have seen many places here that need to be documented. Is anyone willing to do so?
FD Spark Prim & Texture Doodler Join date: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 4,697	05-18-2007 06:55 From: bilbo99 Emu Hey FD!! If you do ever reinstate Dagon Grimm you simply must walk around the first day with a box on his head .. for old times sake :D[/QUOTE I will if I do. Recently I made very tiny griefer doll with no pants and box on his head. He is about under .500 give or take. If I can find him I give you copy if you send me hello in world later, much later because I am going to sleep. I will wear a box on my head as Dagon Grimm but I won't wonder around with no pants. Took me weeks first time to figure out how to get dressed in beta.
Darien Caldwell Registered User Join date: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,127	05-18-2007 11:59 From: Colette Meiji The oldest AVs are a bit more than 3 years older than you. I know several from Mid 2003 that still show up hehe, but the oldest are from 2002. Search for the group "Early Beta Members". Lots of fossils in that group, including Phillip Linden hehe. _____________________
Robyn York Registered User Join date: 9 May 2003 Posts: 68	05-18-2007 12:59 From: Teeny Leviathan I am the 2nd oldest resident to post here. Robyn York is 11 days older. I'm considering botox and maybe some work around my eyes. I was trying to find the link to the old website... it's archived somewhere on the net. It looked very different and there were some great beta-looking screenshots. Lots of default Linden hair on those avatars. I think Linden hair should make a comeback. If anyone can find it please post the link! Maybe some of you history buffs have it. Paging Eggy Lippman or Oz Spade!
Nichiren Dinzeo Registered User Join date: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 203	06-12-2007 19:57 I want to thank everyone for posting to my thread here. It has helped out group to set caches at historical locations in hopes of helping those new to sl to learn about this history of sl...and to have fund searching for caches in the meantime.... slgeocaching.com
Isablan Neva Mystic Join date: 27 Nov 2004 Posts: 2,907	06-12-2007 20:02 From: Robyn York If anyone can find it please post the link! Maybe some of you history buffs have it. Paging Eggy Lippman or Oz Spade! Even better than a link (courtesy of the Internet Archive WayBack Machine): http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.secondlife.com _____________________ http://slurl.com/secondlife/TheBotanicalGardens/207/30/420/
Najmah Handayani (aka Toy LaFollette) Join date: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 154	06-12-2007 20:20 maybe look up some of these people and ask them Alpha started on March 2002, under the name Linden World. The first residents were Steller Sunshine and Paul Zeeman. Other notable Alpha members include Mac Beach, Flyk Escher, BuhBuhCuh Fairchild, and bUTTONpUSHER Jones. _____________________ "We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors ... but they all have to learn to live in the same box." ___________________________________ Textures by Naj
Jig Chippewa Fine Young Cannibal Join date: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 5,150	06-12-2007 20:57 I still say that interested parties should get together and organize an "historical group"; I am proud to own a beautiful house in Chaska designed by a real life architect that should be preserved. Many new people arrive each day with a genuine interest in SL. By the way, I will shortly be opening a museum/gallery that will display works by artists from across SL that will be free admission (NO tip boxes) - I just ask that people will donate a few dollars to a REAL charity of their choice afterwards. When gallery is finally up and running I shall note it in the forum. I think people should be aware that we have great artists here. I have enjoyed collecting the art - now it is time for everyone to enjoy the pieces too.
Malichai Muse Registered User Join date: 17 Mar 2003 Posts: 1	01-20-2010 23:26 I will add myself to the old timer list for the win.. oldest I know is Phaylen Fairchild 12/31/2002
Kenbro Utu Registered User Join date: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 483	01-20-2010 23:52 From: Malichai Muse I will add myself to the old timer list for the win.. oldest I know is Phaylen Fairchild 12/31/2002 How bizarre... You wait almost 7 years to make your first post here, and it is to resurrect a thread that is almost 3 years old. Hey oldtimer. :^)
Jig Chippewa Fine Young Cannibal Join date: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 5,150	01-20-2010 23:52 My land in Mimas is the site of the first nightclub in SL, owned by David Valentino. It's one of the first pieces of land ever made. _____________________ Fine Young Cannibal
Pussycat Catnap Sex Kitten Join date: 15 Jun 2009 Posts: 1,131	01-21-2010 00:00 At: http://slurl.com/secondlife/I-World%20Island/18/179/23 There is a prim that dates to: Mon Feb 11 12:12:30 2002. Its labeled by the Lindens as the first prim. _____________________
Kelderek Kilda Registered User Join date: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 53	01-21-2010 01:45 From: Porky Gorky I recently met an Av with a birth date of 2017. Either the profile was borked or future SL residents have discovered time travel. Can't be. We all know that the old Maya calender ends in December 2012. This of course includes SL, so when the Big Unrezzing of the Prims begins in a little less than three years from now, even this resident will face the inevitable account cancellation!
Johan Laurasia Fully Rezzed Join date: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,394	01-21-2010 02:57 From: SuezanneC Baskerville We won't really know the oldest parcel in SL until the parcel age verification program takes effect. Don't quite see your logic connection between the age of parcels and age verification, but, in all actuality, sims are older than parcels. In the early days, sims were not sub'd into parcels rather they were one 64k sq meter sim and that's it. Parcels came along because "prim hogs" were taking up all the prims in the sim, so a system to split up prims was devised (by creating parcels that received the appropriate amount of prims based on the size of the parcel), to stop prim hogs from soaking up all the prims in a sim. _____________________ My tutes http://www.youtube.com/johanlaurasia
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	01-21-2010 03:32 From: Johan Laurasia Don't quite see your logic The grid status page reports that some residents are experiencing problems with their humor detection systems. In rare cases, even the presence of a winking smiley icon will not trigger the humor event. Humor events have been known to be held in queues at least as far back as 05-15-2007, 06:05 PM . n00bs! _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Briana Dawson Attach to Mouth Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,855	01-21-2010 03:42 From: Johan Laurasia Don't quite see your logic connection between the age of parcels and age verification, but, in all actuality, sims are older than parcels. In the early days, sims were not sub'd into parcels rather they were one 64k sq meter sim and that's it. Parcels came along because "prim hogs" were taking up all the prims in the sim, so a system to split up prims was devised (by creating parcels that received the appropriate amount of prims based on the size of the parcel), to stop prim hogs from soaking up all the prims in a sim. Wow. This is the 2nd or 3rd time i have seen you put out false information about what SL was or could do in the past. We could always subdivide sims into Parcels. I was the prim hog that sparked the prim war in November that ultimately led to parcel prim limits. http://secondlife.wikia.com/wiki/Prim_hog & /invalid_link.html I was one of a few who gave ideas on how to stop prim hogging, and my idea just happened to be in use still now. /invalid_link.html The only thing accurate you did say is that 1 person - like me - could come into a sim and hog the majority of the prims from everyone else - and back then we only had 10,000 per sim, not 15,000. And once again - YOU COULD SUBDIVIDE SIMS INTO PARCELS EXACTLY LIKE TODAY. Stop giving off your bad 411 guy. kthxbai _____________________ WooT ------------------------------ http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	01-21-2010 03:44 Worse than that he didn't get my joke. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Couldbe Yue one unhappy customer Join date: 30 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,532	01-21-2010 03:52 This is has been my fave sl vid for a while now.. enjoy http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=georgeorwell1984#p/u/1/KHH2CAE9Y6o _____________________ Satiated Desires: Toys for Grown Ups. Inworld: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Norf%20Haven/186/132/55 XSL: https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&MerchantID=77743&&sort=age&dir=asc Blog: http://satiateddesires.wordpress.com/
Sling Trebuchet Deleted User Join date: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,548	01-21-2010 04:02 I have some group land in the old Shipley sim. The Claim Date in the About Land is given as December 2003 -- although the land was acquired in July 2008. It was won at Auction, and it seems the claim date wasn't amended at it would be in a normal purchase. I have some parcels in Jessie combat sim. The prims in the section of the old Outlands Jessie Wall on the Northern edge of the sim date back to October 2002. The creator is Secret2 Linden with a rez date of July 2002, and an otherwise blank Profile. _____________________ Maggie: We give our residents a lot of tools, to build, create, and manage their lands and objects. That flexibility also requires people to exercise judgment about when things should be used. http://www.ace-exchange.com/home/story/BDVR/589
Void Singer Int vSelf = Sing(void); Join date: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,973	01-21-2010 07:39 From: Kelderek Kilda Can't be. We all know that the old Maya calender ends in December 2012. This of course includes SL, so when the Big Unrezzing of the Prims begins in a little less than three years from now, even this resident will face the inevitable account cancellation! pfft, like the stargazing mayans knew anything... everyone knows Dennis Ritchie was more of a visionary and that time ends in 2038 on tues, jan 19th at 3:14:07... then it starts anew in 1901 on fri dec 13th at 20:45:52... celebrated with an early weekend and an early christmas =) _____________________ \| \| . "Cat-Like Typing Detected" \| . This post may contain errors in logic, spelling, and \| . grammar known to the SL populace to cause confusion \| \| - Please Use PHP tags when posting scripts/code, Thanks. \| - Can't See PHP or URL Tags Correctly? Check Out This Link... \| -
Briana Dawson Attach to Mouth Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,855	01-21-2010 07:44 SL is really a world of itself when people are discussing the first prim rezzed. Such cool history. _____________________ WooT ------------------------------ http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/
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