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Have other people found love on SL? How did that turn out in RL?

Rat Barzane
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04-16-2007 21:01
the main issue with relationships that are not formed face to face is, as others have said, the way each person is looking at the relationship.
Such as if one is roleplaying and one isn't... That is something that should be established early on... I have friends who roleplay with some people and not with others.. One is easy to pick as he tends to be a dragon... you can tell if he is roleplaying, lol.
I have seen successful relationships and failed relationships online.... been involved in a few myself. Even those with the best intentions can fail when you meet each other and realise you have no chemistry to speak of, but often these reationships can remain as a friendship.
The thing to really watch out for is liars... Most people will stuff up though if they tell too many lies to too many people. Its a good idea if you think you have feelings for someone online to encourage friends to get to know them... To talk to them not only with you 'present' but also without.
And always be cautious, don't rush in!
I had a friend who used to fall in love with someone online (chat rooms) every few months.... She was a particularly nieve and trusting person who was quite frankly desperate for love, and each time, she would fly over to meet them, they would be sweet as pie, sleep with her, then break up with her when she returned home.... Or just vanish and never speak to her again. She learned herlesson eventually.... after much heartache.

I met my RL partner online, 4 years ago, but we lived i the same town and met within a week after we met online, as friends. (started going out within another week).
We now live together and go on SL together, where we can do things we could never do in rl (she has chronic back pain and isn't able to do many active things), and I honestly think being on SL together is making our relatonship even stronger :)

But you defenitely see aspects of people online that you don't normally see in person, and vice versa. You just gotta hope the aspects of a person you are falling in love with online, are not the parts that don't show up in their rl ;)
Some people can be a hopeless romantic online, but in person an anti-social or even aggressive person.
But really, all these problems come up without the 'net anyway, except the appearance factor. Some people are just damn good actors and make themselves appear wonderful until they have you hook line and sinker :P

aaw hell, I'll shup up now, i could babble on this subject for way too long for comfort lmao!
Escaped Loon
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04-16-2007 21:08
From: Amity Slade
If fact, people who went OOC too much were shunned. (OOC - out of character- talking about your real self and the real world.)


this has whats been so shocking of SL to me- the 8-10 random ppl a day who engage my character with TXT to ask me where I'm from, before even saying hello the first thing they ask is A/S/L? but usually just the L.

I'm not scared really to tell them my location because theres way scarier stuff in my neigborhood that i worry about than some random internet pervert, if they want to stalk me they wouldnt get very far before deciding its not worth it,

but still I'm like, "no, where are YOU from" and then they just TP out or say "i dont give away that kind of info" but they're the ones bringing up the topic in the first place and my AV is not attractive looking- far from it.

and i'm like "yea ok, that was pointless,"... like even if they were from where I am it would be some fairybook romance- yea right. then I'm like "thats even more pointless" when its a male AV asking..

i learned that internet dating does not work back when 1200BPS was fast, but then again the grrls who were DOS savvy back in those days were very....eccentric,
2k Suisei
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04-16-2007 21:37
From: Escaped Loon


i learned that internet dating does not work back when 1200BPS was fast, but then again the grrls who were DOS savvy back in those days were very....eccentric,



Oh yeah!. I can imagine! :)

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Escaped Loon
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04-16-2007 22:12
From: Ceera Murakami
In SL, a 50 year old bald, married man can, quite realisticly, appear to be a single, hip, 20 year old girl. How well they pull it off may rely entirely on their acting ability.


its kind of easy actually. you just over use =) and =D and keep saying things like

" your SO nice!! =D"

but just =) every few minutes randomly for no reason at all seems to work well to reinforce a female energy at the keyboard

whenever at loss for words..or if things heat up too much and if the sugar daddy begins to fall in love you say

"OMG!!! my computer is messing up! =( "

then you log out but not until after they give you something for being the babe they assumed you were

j/k i dont do this
2k Suisei
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04-16-2007 22:26
your so nice!! =D
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04-16-2007 22:26
=)
Maggie McArdle
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04-16-2007 23:19
From: Arksun Tone
I would dispute that and actually say its half and half. Half of us here, our avatar IS a virutal representation of our rl selves, without roleplaying. Sure sometimes even i'll put on a squirrel av cause its funny, but I'm still being my silly real self.

Each to their own. It's just a case of being careful and really getting to know someone, being wise, just like in rl. But please don't paint this picture that most people in sl is being completely fake playing a pretend role/character. sl has the full range, its one of the things that makes sl so interesting :)



here here Arksun!!

i too bring my real life self to my av. many forget or would like to forget that at the other end is a real person, still capable of real feelings, even though those feelings aren't reflected in the av. i did find someone here and we are partnered. have we exchanged pics yet? no, but we are taking the time to get to know one another, and have made plans to meet later in the year. so in answer to your question, yes. but i will echo a concern, be careful in whom You choose. make sure they are who they say they are.

and above all be safe. :)
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04-16-2007 23:51
From: Maggie McArdle
here here Arksun!!

i too bring my real life self to my av.


I don't think you can bring yourself to an avatar. In SL, you're ultimately just a series of text messages. One literate person is very much like the next. So much so, that it's possible for your partner to put somebody else in his place and you wouldn't even notice.

From: Maggie McArdle
have we exchanged pics yet? no, but we are taking the time to get to know one another, and have made plans to meet later in the year.


Why take your time?. Just be upfront ask him if he's a serial killer. I'm sure he'll tell you. Or maybe you're hoping he'll slip up one day and say "BTW, I actually murdered my previous girlfriend."

Seriously though, just ask the necessary questions!

Are you married?

How much money have you got?

How big is your willy?

Do you have your own hair?

Etc...



It's easy!
Mandy Carbenell
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04-17-2007 02:06
I've had several relationships in sl and I can truly say that it envolves REAL ppl with real emotions. My first relationship here crashed because I was too busy exploring and forgot about the person behind the avi.

Now, I'm in my 4th relationship here and it's going very well, the way he talks, how he treats me and provides for me...makes me feel very special. I guess I'll never meet him in rl...but to me he's awesome...and that's all that matters to me.

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Joseph Worthington
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04-17-2007 03:04
From: 2k Suisei
I don't think you can bring yourself to an avatar. In SL, you're ultimately just a series of text messages. One literate person is very much like the next. So much so, that it's possible for your partner to put somebody else in his place and you wouldn't even notice.


Considering that we talk, Maggie and I (Yup...I'm her partner) verbally on Skype every day while in SL and even while not in SL...I doubt I could drop someone else at the keys, so to speak, and not have her notice.


From: someone
Why take your time?. Just be upfront ask him if he's a serial killer. I'm sure he'll tell you. Or maybe you're hoping he'll slip up one day and say "BTW, I actually murdered my previous girlfriend."

Seriously though, just ask the necessary questions!


She has, and I've answered. I have, and she's answered. Taking the time to get to know someone is more than merely divining the answers to some aribitrairily thought up questionaire. How she and I react to each other's moods, is part of taking the time to get to know each other. Learning the reasons behind vocal changes and changes in speech patterns, is part of taking the time to get to know someone. Listening to each other's jokes and stories...and one another's reactions to our own jokes and stories, is part of taking the time to get to know each other.

I could take six people, sit them down in front of a lie detector, and ask them all the "necessary questions" and still not know a damn thing about who they really are.


From: someone
Are you married?

How much money have you got?

How big is your willy?

Do you have your own hair?

Etc...

It's easy!


So is a 30 year old single man with a 6 figure bank account, 8 inch penis, a full head of hair, and all his own teeth automatically a better match for someone than someone twice his age with half the money, 3 inches less, and a few bridges in his mouth? Judging by the questionarie, many would say so. After getting to know each man however....one might discover that the 30 year old is Christian Bale from American Psycho, and the older gent is Robert Redford from The Last Castle.

Even my straight ass would take the older chap over the good looking psychopath any day of the week.

From the way you keep responding, one might think that your idea of "getting to know someone" is in and of itself inherently flawed. Perhaps it's not the situation that seems to have you so guarded, but perhaps it's the way one approached the "getting to know the other person" that leads to such feelings.

Assuming that your "necessary questions" weren't asked and answered, merely because Maggie said that she and I are still taking the time to get to know one another, is presumptious and offensive. For you to sit there and think you know the Ins and Outs of our relationship, after but One forum post is, for lack of a better term, silly and wrong. I believe are plenty of real people forming real relationships all across SL, and for one person to sit back and broadly label the whole of SL, or even the majority thereof in one way or another, and to believe that they can know the depth of someone else's feelings and actions is almost comical.

I'd laugh if I wasn't so offended.


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PS.

1. No

2. Enough that two timezones away, she never wants for anything.

3. 7 inches (On a good day, and if I cheat a little on the measurements :D)

4. Yes. Yes I do.

There. Now that you've asked and I've answered....I guess you know me, right?
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iAndrew Bailey
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04-17-2007 03:10
I have had 3 relationships two of which involved being online in one way or another

1 - Met on chat (IRC). We were 100% honest with each other. We eventually lived together for a short time. One important thing that even we did and I have always recommended to others was that for our first meeting we met in a City that neither of us lived in (London) for one day (no nights).

2 - Met offline but she lived a couple of hours away. A lot of our "romancing" was done using IRC. We eventually lived together until she died.

3 - Not much detail because she never tells anyone about her rl at SL. That is a current sl and rl relationship. Going very well. No secrets between us. Same on SL as RL in more ways than I should tell you. Sorry that is all very vague.

As has already been said. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. I would say to anyone no matter how much you think you know someone that your first meeting should be somewhere public ie not alone. However wonderful he/she seems don't give your address until you have at least met in rl.

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Mandy Carbenell
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04-17-2007 03:11
From: Joseph Worthington
Considering that we talk, Maggie and I (Yup...I'm her partner) verbally on Skype every day while in SL and even while not in SL...I doubt I could drop someone else at the keys, so to speak, and not have her notice.




She has, and I've answered. I have, and she's answered. Taking the time to get to know someone is more than merely divining the answers to some aribitrairily thought up questionaire. How she and I react to each other's moods, is part of taking the time to get to know each other. Learning the reasons behind vocal changes and changes in speech patterns, is part of taking the time to get to know someone. Listening to each other's jokes and stories...and one another's reactions to our own jokes and stories, is part of taking the time to get to know each other.

I could take six people, sit them down in front of a lie detector, and ask them all the "necessary questions" and still not know a damn thing about who they really are.




So is a 30 year old single man with a 6 figure bank account, 8 inch penis, a full head of hair, and all his own teeth automatically a better match for someone than someone twice his age with half the money, 3 inches less, and a few bridges in his mouth? Judging by the questionarie, many would say so. After getting to know each man however....one might discover that the 30 year old is Christian Bale from American Psycho, and the older gent is Robert Redfort from The Last Castle.

Even my straight ass would take the older chap over the good looking psychopath any day of the week.

From the way you keep responding, one might think that your idea of "getting to know someone" is in and of itself inherently flawed. Perhaps it's not the situation that seems to have you so guarded, but perhaps it's the way one approached the "getting to know the other person" that leads to such feelings.

Assuming that your "necessary questions" weren't asked and answered, merely because Maggie said that she and I are still taking the time to get to know one another, is presumptious and offensive. For you to sit there and think you know the Ins and Outs of our relationship, after but One forum post is, for lack of a better term, silly and wrong. I believe are plenty of real people forming real relationships all across SL, and for one person to sit back and broadly label the whole of SL, or even the majority thereof in one way or another, and to believe that they can know the depth of someone else's feelings and actions is almost comical.

I'd laugh if I wasn't so offended.


~~~~~
PS.

1. No

2. Enough that two timezones away, she never wants for anything.

3. 7 inches (On a good day, and if I cheat a little on the measurements :D)

4. Yes. Yes I do.

There. Now that you've asked and I've answered....and I guess you know me, right?
~~~~~


Excellent answer, Joseph! SL is all about doing what you want with your time on here. I wish you and Maggie the best of luck and drop me an IM sometime...you 2 sound like very nice ppl.:D

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04-17-2007 03:12
From: Mandy Carbenell

Now, I'm in my 4th relationship here and it's going very well, the way he talks, how he treats me and provides for me...makes me feel very special. I guess I'll never meet him in rl...but to me he's awesome...and that's all that matters to me.


Mandy does that mean you only have your relationship in SL and don't take it into RL? I personally don't see how that works... How can you be in love with someone and not want to be with him?
To me, this is the hardest part...: the waiting. Due to a number of circumstances, we have to wait a few months before we can actually meet. On the other hand: this will give us loads of time to get to know each other better!
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04-17-2007 03:14
From: Feline Falta
From: Mandy Carbenell

Now, I'm in my 4th relationship here and it's going very well, the way he talks, how he treats me and provides for me...makes me feel very special. I guess I'll never meet him in rl...but to me he's awesome...and that's all that matters to me.


Mandy does that mean you only have your relationship in SL and don't take it into RL? I personally don't see how that works... How can you be in love with someone and not want to be with him?
To me, this is the hardest part...: the waiting. Due to a number of circumstances, we have to wait a few months before we can actually meet. On the other hand: this will give us loads of time to get to know each other better!


Well, eventually I do wanna meet in RL....but since I'm in Europe for the time being and he's in the US we'll just have to be patient.;)

Mandy C
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04-17-2007 03:14
From: Feline Falta
From: Mandy Carbenell

Now, I'm in my 4th relationship here and it's going very well, the way he talks, how he treats me and provides for me...makes me feel very special. I guess I'll never meet him in rl...but to me he's awesome...and that's all that matters to me.


Mandy does that mean you only have your relationship in SL and don't take it into RL? I personally don't see how that works... How can you be in love with someone and not want to be with him?
To me, this is the hardest part...: the waiting. Due to a number of circumstances, we have to wait a few months before we can actually meet. On the other hand: this will give us loads of time to get to know each other better!


nods exactly, its a prime oppurtunity to get to know one another! i do wish You the very best and i hope it works for You and Yours!

(Hi Baby!)

and yes Mandy we are ;)
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04-17-2007 03:15
From: Mickey James
I don't know anybody who has had a real nightmare experience, or who has gone to meet their online love and never been heard from again. When it doesn't work, it's usually more along the lines of learning that the chemistry you have in text isn't there in person, and then you hug and say you're sorry it didn't work out, and go back to your life.


Actually, the "nightmare experiences" are in this thread - people so superficial that they confuse love with lust and whose worst nightmare is a "hairy, sweaty man" or (god forbid) a "50 year old bald... german". Of course, they get primacy of judgement, based on no more than the self-assurance of ignorance - without ever considering the vast number of people who will peg them as nacissistic as...terisks and run away. Perhaps that deeply ingrained body fascism, ageism, and stupidity is what makes them forever find bad relationships, online or off?

There is a problem with RP and relationships in general, because a need to RP is generally based on some level of dissatisfaction with RL. I would say that the more accurate an av and behaviour is to the real person, the more likely the relationship is to succeed - but then that suggestion moves dangerously close to unresolved social pressures in RL, such as the outlook/result pairing which underpins The Ladder Theory, as espoused on www.intellectualwhores.com - as ever, sexually active women don't like or allow men to be emotionally sensitive...
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04-17-2007 03:15
From: Feline Falta
To me, this is the hardest part...: the waiting. Due to a number of circumstances, we have to wait a few months before we can actually meet. On the other hand: this will give us loads of time to get to know each other better!


Exactly. Maggie and I could have met months ago, but decided that it wasn't time yet. Instead, we're arranging to meet on our One Year (SL) Anniversary. We already know we want to be with one another in real life, but aren't so foolish that we aren't taking the time to get to one another better.

Hi Hun. :)

~EDIT~

By the way, you'll notice neither she nor I have divulged whether or not I'm a serial killer.

Dun dun.......DUNNNNNN!!!!

:D:D:D:D
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04-17-2007 03:17
From: Feline Falta
Hell yeah, the guy who takes me on romantic outings in SL, could just be an old 50 year-old fat bald fowl-mouthing German


Hi Feline, I'm usually not very touchy in that respect, but I found myself wincing when I read that description of what seems to be your ultimate nightmare. I'm not quite 50 yet and not very fat (if slightly overweight), but I'm bald and I'm German. I don't know about foul-mouthed. Anyway, why does that old, fat, bald, foul-mouthed character of your nightmares have to be German? Isn't there anyone in your own neighborhood who would fit that description?

But more to the point of this thread: Several people have remarked on how "fake" and "unreal" our SL avatars are. In a sense, that is true, of course. In another sense I do think that the avatars we create for ourselves do say a lot about who we are, the more so the longer we've been working on refining them. They are a mask we are wearing, and a mask is a thing that can be used both to hide behind and to express something that is in us. In SL, it inevitably is a mixture of both, I think. I find it interesting in that context to remember that the Latin word for "mask" is "persona".

When you look around, you see avatars that are obviously striving to look like your generic sex toy or supermodel or hunk or whatever, others who are trying to express something of how the people behind them see themselves, still others who use their avatars to make witty or funny statements. All these variations do say a lot about the people behind them, I think.

That's why I do compliment people on their avatars' looks and I really mean it when I do, and I enjoy it when someone says something nice about my av. Sure, nothing should be taken too seriously, but to dismiss our avatars' looks as irrelevant is quite as naive as falling in love with a person just because her/his av looks so sexy, in my opinion.
Mandy Carbenell
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04-17-2007 03:23
True Dylan, one of my best friends here is in fact a bald 52yr old man..but he has an awesome character and makes me laugh all the time so I don't really care how he looks. Get to know the person behind the avi before jumping to conclusions is my advice.

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04-17-2007 03:23
From: Joseph Worthington

By the way, you'll notice neither she nor I have divulged whether or not I'm a serial killer.

Dun dun.......DUNNNNNN!!!!

:D:D:D:D


:eek: !!!!!!
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04-17-2007 03:23
From: 2k Suisei
I don't think you can bring yourself to an avatar. In SL, you're ultimately just a series of text messages. One literate person is very much like the next. So much so, that it's possible for your partner to put somebody else in his place and you wouldn't even notice.

...It's easy!


So that's it for Shakespeare, J D Salinger, Orwell, Brett Easton Ellis, Salman Rushdie, VS Naipaul, Chaucer, Iain M Banks, James Gleick, Germaine Greer, Agatha Christie, ee cummings... as literate people they are all pretty much the same. 50 years of people attempting to fix up the Turing Test just to substitute a computer for a person, and why bother: Suisei says people are interchangeable and text is just text. Is "Suisei" japanese for "jaded" or something?

Suisei: get a frickin' education. Start with Eric Berne's "Games people play" and "what we say after we say hello". (the second one being rather more relevant to how much people reveal in casual conversations about themselves)
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04-17-2007 03:26
From: Joseph Worthington

1. No

2. Enough that two timezones away, she never wants for anything.

3. 7 inches (On a good day, and if I cheat a little on the measurements :D)

4. Yes. Yes I do.

There. Now that you've asked and I've answered....I guess you know me, right?
~~~~~


a/s/l?
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04-17-2007 03:29
From: Maggie McArdle
here here Arksun!!

i too bring my real life self to my av. many forget or would like to forget that at the other end is a real person, still capable of real feelings, even though those feelings aren't reflected in the av. i did find someone here and we are partnered. have we exchanged pics yet? no, but we are taking the time to get to know one another, and have made plans to meet later in the year. so in answer to your question, yes. but i will echo a concern, be careful in whom You choose. make sure they are who they say they are.

and above all be safe. :)


Exactly so. I have been in and out of RP and bohemian spaces in RL, for at least 20 years now: the lesson I have learned is that not only do you "bring yourself" to any environment you are in - you can't control what, of yourself, it is that you bring - and what makes you attractive or repellent is the bits you can't control (or don't even know are there!). Thus far on SL I have been shown two people's RL pix. On both occasions their very apparent deep reluctance to make that connection was only overriden by their evidently-deeper need to make a strong impression over being genuine - in both cases, it was quite a turn-off, and a worrying sign that they were far deeper into the "Relationship" than I was.

Very hard to get out of those situations without seeming to be a tad... harsh.
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04-17-2007 03:33
From: 2k Suisei
a/s/l?


:confused:

Ummmmm.....if you're guessing at my gender....oh nevermind..it's Male. Location is listed right there under my name and post count. You were given 2 out of three the first time I posted. As for age....I don't feel comfortable disclosing that just yet until you've answered my "neccessary questions".

1. Are you a Mormon?

2. If No...why not? If Yes....continue to question three

3. What is your breast size?

4. Are they real?

5. Thong or Granny Panties?

It's easy!
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04-17-2007 03:40
From: Joseph Worthington
:confused:

Ummmmm.....if you're guessing at my gender....oh nevermind..it's Male. Location is listed right there under my name and post count. You were given 2 out of three the first time I posted. As for age....I don't feel comfortable disclosing that just yet until you've answered my "neccessary questions".

1. Are you a Mormon?

2. If No...why not? If Yes....continue to question three

3. What is your breast size?

4. Are they real?

5. Thong or Granny Panties?

It's easy!



I think if you look at my in-world profile you'll get all the answers you need. Including breast size.

Seeya soon, big boy!
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