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How Many More Examples Do You Need Before You Fire Strife?

Joshua Nightshade
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05-14-2007 21:28
Seriously? What redeeming qualities does he offer? Beyond his quick-draw ability to lock otherwise on-topic, non-confrontational and perfectly acceptable threads.

He only gets more heavy-handed by the second, and yet you allow him to remain, passive-aggressively bullying others.

Disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
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05-14-2007 21:30
I'm thinking 16 or 17 more should do it. I thought you were banned?
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05-14-2007 21:32
i think he does a fair job personally, itsnot secondcitizen here
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Joshua Nightshade
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05-14-2007 21:32
From: Flavian Molinari
I'm thinking 16 or 17 more should do it. I thought you were banned?


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05-14-2007 21:33
From: Kyrah Abattoir
i think he does a fair job personally, itsnot secondcitizen here


Yes, you're right, it's not Second Citizen.

On Second Citizen people ask questions and get answers. :rolleyes:
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05-14-2007 22:13
I for one welcome our new Strifese (Striferian?) overlords.
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05-14-2007 22:44
From: Pete Fats
I for one welcome our new Strifese (Striferian?) overlords.
NEW? :eek: Are you kidding me??
The current resmods have been moderating these forums for nearly a year.

The first documented thread that Strife locked was on May 20, 2006. I am not sure when the resmod program started exactly, but when people get in positions of "power" and are left there with no one to answer to and have a 'blank check' so to speak...it turns into a dictatorship.

Reference:
/290/b5/106869/3.html#post1046701
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05-14-2007 23:47
Whoa. Pete Fats!

The person with that little plot next to mine in Alice, that someone left junk on at 700m... man would it be *cool* if that were ah, set on autoreturn or somethin... just sayin'... having to prim-bomb random junk away is just sooo 2004, y'know?

What was this thread about?

*coughs*

Sorry...
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05-15-2007 07:48
From: Joshua Nightshade
... What redeeming qualities does he offer? ...

He only gets more heavy-handed by the second, and yet you allow him to remain, passive-aggressively bullying others.
...


Well, he seems to manage avoid posting personal attacks, so he's one-up on a lot of people right there. I've never met the person, but the job seems to be getting done. No complaints here, so consider this a vote for Strife.

Have you stopped for a moment to consider your actions? If you have a complaint, why not make it privately? Would you like complete strangers coming into your place of business and singling you out for loud and derogatory public castigation?

Public praise and private admonishment would, at the very least, be a sign that you are showing concern for the feelings of others. And, I apologize for publicly rebuking you.
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Flavian Molinari
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05-15-2007 08:10
From: CoyoteAngel Dimsum
Well, he seems to manage avoid posting personal attacks, so he's one-up on a lot of people right there. I've never met the person, but the job seems to be getting done. No complaints here, so consider this a vote for Strife.


Strife has used his rezmod position to make personal attacks on members of this forum.



From: CoyoteAngel Dimsum
Have you stopped for a moment to consider your actions? If you have a complaint, why not make it privately? Would you like complete strangers coming into your place of business and singling you out for loud and derogatory public castigation?


Did make it private. Nothing changed.

From: CoyoteAngel Dimsum
Public praise and private admonishment would, at the very least, be a sign that you are showing concern for the feelings of others. And, I apologize for publicly rebuking you.


Yeah right and I'm sure Josh is sorry he brought Strife's behavior to public light.
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05-15-2007 08:11
From: CoyoteAngel Dimsum
Well, he seems to manage avoid posting personal attacks, so he's one-up on a lot of people right there. I've never met the person, but the job seems to be getting done. No complaints here, so consider this a vote for Strife.

Have you stopped for a moment to consider your actions? If you have a complaint, why not make it privately? Would you like complete strangers coming into your place of business and singling you out for loud and derogatory public castigation?

Public praise and private admonishment would, at the very least, be a sign that you are showing concern for the feelings of others. And, I apologize for publicly rebuking you.


Agreed.
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05-15-2007 08:21
From: Flavian Molinari
Strife has used his rezmod position to make personal attacks on members of this forum.



Wow - pretty big accusation - are there any examples people who didnt witness it could see?

The moderation of gutted forums and their limited traffic isnt exactly the priority issue - the fact that the forums are gutted and have limited traffic is.

But abuse of power is a definite problem if true.
Joshua Nightshade
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05-15-2007 08:36
From: CoyoteAngel Dimsum
Well, he seems to manage avoid posting personal attacks, so he's one-up on a lot of people right there. I've never met the person, but the job seems to be getting done. No complaints here, so consider this a vote for Strife.

Have you stopped for a moment to consider your actions? If you have a complaint, why not make it privately? Would you like complete strangers coming into your place of business and singling you out for loud and derogatory public castigation?

Public praise and private admonishment would, at the very least, be a sign that you are showing concern for the feelings of others. And, I apologize for publicly rebuking you.


Hi Coyote.

I've been in SL for a really long time now. Longer than a month and a half. If you've only been in SL briefly it's really easy to not get the references to past history.

The entire time that Strife has been a resmod, he's been abusive, rude, condescending and petty. I have taken this issue up with him privately, I have reported him to Torley and Jeska, I have had Torley's personal assurances that she would be talking to Strife and telling him to amend his behavior. I've seen him lock threads and insult the posters when doing it, and Torley has told him that locking them is sufficient, his commentary is not needed. This has been going on for years now, well beyond this one post today.

By now, I have no respect for Strife. He abuses the position of power he has because he's the only resmod that hasn't quit to avoid working with him. Abuses of power -- there are literally so many examples that I can't even list all of them, however here's an email I sent Torley about it:

From: someone
As you asked for a specific example, when Strife Onizuka locked the thread here:

/128/8e/138697/3.html#post1294493

"This thread has outlived it's usefulness (was it ever?) and would be best suited for a third party forum.
*locks thread*"

I have yet to see him/her ever post a comment regarding a threadlock that wasn't condescending and rude, such as this one. This thread in particular wasn't derailed and there was little reason at all to lock it beyond it being a discussion of a Linden Lab decision that most of the residents are unhappy with. So apparently critical comments and critical exploration of said decisions needs to be discussed on third-party sites now? What happened to the assurances that our opinions weren't being shot down and relegated to the shadows?

Strife has on many occasions made comments not appropriate for a person on the clock, even voluntarily. Another example, this response a month or so back when Uma Bauhaus said she was tiering down her account as protest against the forum closure:

/108/53/135152/2.html#post1270521

If a Linden made either of these rude remarks would that be appropriate?


Strife needs to GO. This isn't an intellectual issue anymore.
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Joshua Nightshade
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05-15-2007 08:39
From: Colette Meiji
Wow - pretty big accusation - are there any examples people who didnt witness it could see?

The moderation of gutted forums and their limited traffic isnt exactly the priority issue - the fact that the forums are gutted and have limited traffic is.

But abuse of power is a definite problem if true.


Colette,

see above, but if you want the link:

/108/53/135152/2.html#post1270521/108/53/135152/2.html#post1270521

That's one off the top of my head. When the official forums were closing, a lot of people were protesting it and one resident, a friend of mine, said she was tiering down. Strife's unprovked response was to attack her because she also didn't like his draconian passive-aggressive attacks on others. He has no business being a resmod, least of which is his manners:

/274/74/158614/1.html

Is another very interesting example of Strife's unacceptable behavior.
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05-15-2007 08:47
From: MadamG Zagato
The first documented thread that Strife locked was on May 20, 2006.


Good grief..Strife's actions are now being recorded and documented for history? That gives me an idea..anyone that would like to contribute to the Life and Times of Strife Onizuka, book release date for Summer 2008 could submit in triplicate any details that would be beneficial. His secondlife recorded and documented for all to see. Think of the prosperity, the notoriety, the money!!!

As I have said in the past, MadamG. What do you want to have happen? If it's to remind us all of Mr. Onizuka's behavior, you are accomplishing that and some. If you want change then might I suggest another approach. I'm sure as an option, LindenLab can just close the forums all together and walk away wiping their hands of the whole petty mess.

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05-15-2007 09:10
From: milady Guillaume
Good grief..Strife's actions are now being recorded and documented for history? That gives me an idea..anyone that would like to contribute to the Life and Times of Strife Onizuka, book release date for Summer 2008 could submit in triplicate any details that would be beneficial. His secondlife recorded and documented for all to see. Think of the prosperity, the notoriety, the money!!!

As I have said in the past, MadamG. What do you want to have happen? If it's to remind us all of Mr. Onizuka's behavior, you are accomplishing that and some. If you want change then might I suggest another approach. I'm sure as an option, LindenLab can just close the forums all together and walk away wiping their hands of the whole petty mess.

Strike, contact me later for a contract on any monies made off the book. I'm sure I can afford it in lindens. ;)


Strife is in a position of "power" and when he abuses that position he has to be held accountable for it.

As far as I'm concerned the forums died last year when they decided to pull the plug on 99% of the sections that got anything done. Strife sticking around to hold on to the tiny piece of sway he holds anywhere in SL certainly doesn't make this shell anything worth keeping alive.
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05-15-2007 09:15
From: Joshua Nightshade
As far as I'm concerned the forums died last year when they decided to pull the plug on 99% of the sections that got anything done. Strife sticking around to hold on to the tiny piece of sway he holds anywhere in SL certainly doesn't make this shell anything worth keeping alive.

If you consider the forums dead, why do you care what a mod does on here?

I predict this thread will be locked, not because of a personal attack from Strife but because it's trolling and flaming.
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05-15-2007 09:28
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If you consider the forums dead, why do you care what a mod does on here?

I predict this thread will be locked, not because of a personal attack from Strife but because it's trolling and flaming.


Because he continues to abuse others, and that's unacceptable. Whether they're dead in spirit or not is irrelevant; they're dead because Strife studiously maintains his grip on any and all discussion here.

I've no doubt this will be locked as well; the thread about voice was obviously just as trolling and needed Messiah Strife to save it from the clutches of reasonable discourse. :rolleyes:
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05-15-2007 09:33
From: Joshua Nightshade
I've no doubt this will be locked as well; the thread about voice was obviously just as trolling and needed Messiah Strife to save it from the clutches of reasonable discourse. :rolleyes:

LOL.. And you're going to use that lockage as yet another reason why Strife is evil, aren't you?
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05-15-2007 09:40
From: Meade Paravane
LOL.. And you're going to use that lockage as yet another reason why Strife is evil, aren't you?


I need reasons? Did you deliberately not read the three threads I linked where he attacked others who weren't me?
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05-15-2007 09:46
I read one - seemed like it had degraded into a total bitchfest.

I don't always agree with Strife but I don't think he's doing a bad job. The 'insults' that he delivers are nothing compared to, for example, what you're doing.
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05-15-2007 09:51
From: Meade Paravane
I read one - seemed like it had degraded into a total bitchfest.

I don't always agree with Strife but I don't think he's doing a bad job. The 'insults' that he delivers are nothing compared to, for example, what you're doing.


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05-15-2007 09:53
From: Joshua Nightshade
I don't work for LL, volunteer or not. I can get away with it.

Well, if you're banned from the RA forum, I think it could be argued that you can't get away with it.
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05-15-2007 09:55
I submitted the thread for review, there were just too many unique ARs on guideline violations.
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05-15-2007 09:58
Not that it matters, but I also think Strife Onizuka has been doing as decent a job here as could be expected.
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