You can tell character by what gets someone angry.

Because I don't believe it warrents closing. While the name obviously needs editing out, the ResMods don't have the ability to and it will have to wait for a Linden.

It is awaiting Linden Review.

Where's Zap when you really need him?

It's addressed to an individual, and a group. Steve Steed & The Resmods.

Zap, YOU'VE quoted countless times over the past few days in countless threads that that is against the TOS.

Suck it up and enforce the rules.

I'm here

The name in the thread title isn't going to get worse with time, and locking it won't stop the name being there. So no harm will be done leaving the thread open while its pending Linden Review for the name to be edited out.

but you don't say that about other threads that have names in them. They get moved and/or locked immediately

But that's not what the resmods have been doing, Zap. Use the heavy-hand you people are getting so used to waving around. You have to lock a thread to prevent it from spiring downhill to the point that it becomes pointless. Then you have to wax poetic about how being a ResMod is some civic duty you feel called to do in order to bring "order" to the "chaos" that is the SL Forums. Then after that, copy and paste 3-4 paragraphs from the TOS that vaguely apply, then for good measure, copy and paste some that don't apply at all. Then move the thread to some sub-section so you can say, "I didn't move it, I put it into the right sub-section." Then lock it, then follow the OP around the rest of the day and make sure you instantly lock anything they say or do that may be construed as against the ResMods and/or their actions.

Get with the program!! Heil!

Not seen all that many "happy birthday" threads locked recently... maybe I should look harder. Should it be moved to notices and well wishes? Perhaps... but locked? I don't think so.

Clearly when it suits your purposes, the rules do not have to be followed to the letter.

Consider:

The original poster of this thread made a notice to another person. She did not intend for it to be a discussion of the res mod program but to communicate with one other person. Clearly this post belongs in notices and well wishes.

You failed to move it there not because the content was about the resmod program but because its INTENDED AUDIENCE was a res mod. This is somewhat similar to Perse posting in the scripters forum about a contest for scripters becuase she wanted to reach an INTENDED AUDIENCE. In that case, you moved the thread. In this case, you didn't. What is the difference besides the intended audience is a resmod?

Furthermore, this thread has a name in the title. You've quoted the TOS to us countless times over the last week or so. I can even go get the part of the TOS that applies to this. You've said, over and over and over and over, that you are here to enforce the TOS.

Now it needs Linden review? The other threads that were this clear didn't need Linden review. The other threads were sumarily moved and/or locked.

You SO aren't applying the rules fairly and across the board. You SO are weilding a big power stick. The only person who can't see that is you.

notice the word "OR" in my post. You quoted it so it really shouldn't have been that hard.

I can read, thank you. I could also read your previous posts and knew from that that the "or" was never your true meaning. In any case, Zap has already said it's awaiting Linden review.

When I first became a ResMod, one of the first things I was warned against was being pressured into closing threads.

I didn't think this thread warrented closing before hand, and I still don't.

Right. Because its about another resmod.

You wouldn't be being pressured if so many very similar threads hadn't been summarily moved or locked. But since they have been, and since opposition to their being moved or locked was met with "well we had rules to follow", then this thread should be given the same iron fist of rules mongering that you have applied to everyone else.

It just stinks of rank favoritism. Which is fine if you don't mind being accused of nepotism.

TIME OUT folks.

Lemme clarify something about the "naming names" rule: it tends to go hand in hand with personal attacks. There's absolutely nothing wrong with naming someone's name in a non-attacking manner, i.e. a congradulations, sympathy or what have you.

The original post was directed at a particular ResMod, and by that alone, it might have also been appropriate for Notices. But considering the posts that followed it, many more generaly directed at the ResMod program (and many of them rather hot-tempered) I think it would be better to leave the thread here.

The resmod this thread was addressed to had already stated in another thread that he is thinking of leaving. People want to express support for him, and for the resmods in general. All the resmods have to use their judgement in applying the rules, and anyone with the least sensitivity can see that this thread in particular poses a problem which it is difficult for another resmod to make a judgement upon.

I wish people would stop being so bloody nasty, there are too many things in the world worth getting worked up about - whether a thread is locked or moved, whether a similar thread was locked or moved, whether it is consistent....they aren't among them.
Cali

Which, per the TOS the ResMods said they would uphold, is what PMs are for.

This thread violates the TOS, and as such should be locked, as other threads violating the same TOS rules have been.

And, yeah, censorship is something worth getting worked up over.

I changed the title because I didn't want to violate the TOS. My intention in posting was to state my sadness that someone would feel compelled to quit a volunteer position because of pressure from others. Second Life should be fun for all. In this case it obviously wasn’t.

BTW- I too,never voted in the poll. I never saw it. I counted 100 votes in the poll. So the favorable rating has going up 2%. I am sure there are others who never voted who favor some sort of mod system. The very fact that some are so vocal against it, tells me it is needed.

Jen

The problem most of us are having with resmods, is that if we are to be watched over by a group of our fellow residents, the rules should be consistent, and apply to everybody equally.

You're a smart one, Jennifer -- you do know that it doesn't actually change the title the way you edited it right? It still says "To Steve Steed" in the message list.

And do you really think you should editorialize when you try to rename threads? You tried to rename this one "You can tell character by what gets someone angry." What the hell is that supposed to mean?

Are you saying that if someone expresses their feelings of anger about the ResMod program, that it's an indication of a character flaw? Get real. A bigger indication of someone's character is whether or not they think are better than other people, which you obviously think you are.

As they say Aaron, "If the shoe fits.."

You are correct, however, with the changing of the title. I didn't know it was fixed.

"If the shoe fits"? Grow up.

The fight against censorship is one of greatest character traits a person can have. It's the Nazi-ish ResMods with superiority complexes that have the character flaws.

With that reasoning then no one should get a Happy Birthday thread. I guess we'll be seeing a lot of "Happy Birthday so and so" threads now...

Well, ZsuZsanna, according to the TOS, Happy Birthday threads are against the rules, when enforced with the same gusto it's been getting lately.

1) You have to address it to a single person. Against the TOS.
2) You should probably NAME the person you want to wish a happy birthday to. According to the ResMods, against the TOS.

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

The rules exist to improve the atmosphere, tone, and usability of the forums, not for their own sake. As such, I have no problem with folks ignoring them completely when following them would counter those goals.

Hmm.. A foolish little inconsistency..... considering that Jews weren't people but animals in Nazi Germany... Ignoring that little inconsistency in the perception of reality and human relations certainly didn't have any significant impact on the world as a whole, now.. did it?

Question for all the TOS experts. After attempting to change the title of my post, to meet what was declared to be outside the TOS standards, I decided to read them. I read the posting guidelines, the ResMod manual and the Community TOS.

Nowhere do I find anything that says a post’s title can’t be addressed to an individual or specific group of people. I agree with the person who said that guidelines and standards are designed to make things easier and smooth out problems. So, I try to follow them, when ever possible.

Can anybody direct me where I can find them?

Jen

It's so comforting to see the ResMods don't even know where to go to look up the forum rules.

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