You can tell character by what gets someone angry.

Hi Steve I don’t know you but, your post touched me. Actually, it saddened me. I don’t normally read this particular section because of so many totally anal posts. So, I can understand your feelings.

Thank you for giving of yourself and your time to be a Resmod and, for helping all of us, who visit the forums. You are always welcome at my house.

Jen

Edited: I changed the title because, I didn't know I was violating the TOS and I don't wish to do so.

ResMods, don't let the whining from people who want to use to use these forums in ways that violate the Forum Guidelines, Community Standards, and or TOS discourage you.

It is incredibly easy to post within the rules. Those who fail to do so over and over and over aren't doing it by mistake,

I support the ResMod program ( or any program that puts active moderators in the forum ), don't let one or two trolls ( for want of a much stronger word ) put you off. People who consistently and deliberately abuse the forum attempting to ruin it for all of us only harm themselves at the end of day. Moderate fairly and firmly and you'll continue to have my full support.

I have grown up with Internet and forums... al forums need someone that take care of them as many sadly cant or want to behave from the ones that ”play” to the ones that live on SL.. ..

BUT on the other hand at this forum we also have a great part that are lovely and sharing knowledge.. HUGS to you AL..

Much can be written in this matter but I stay at those few words..

/Tina - That have a to short temper to even think of become a moderator.. *lol*

resmods, nothing agaisnt you personally, but I'd say just quit. The majority fo forumgoers have disapproved of the resmod program, its obvious that you don't represent the majority.

This thread is here because people have been very personal. I am sad to say that initially I was also very critical of individuals, and I apologise for that because I can see now how wrong it was.


Like to know what facts you base this assertion on.

That a lot of people have been very vocal about it doesn't make a majority. Many people visit the forums without ever having the inclination to post once. How can you know their views? They're still forumgoers.
Cali

I did a poll, I will link it to here.


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Key numbers:
for resmod program: 36.69%
against resmod program: 48.2%
pie or undecided: 15.11%

The poll was done on active forums, and both it and the next portion of the post show the same result.

Metaverse Messenger did a poll.

Just as an addendum to this discussion, last week's M2 web poll, which just ended, was on this same topic, and did not allow the "wiggle room" of an undecided vote.

Our results were as follows:

In favor of the ResMods program: 38%
Opposed to the ResMods program: 62%

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Forum goers are AGAINST the resmod program.

Jonas, actually - your forum poll doesn't indicate that at all.

Those stats can be spun just about any way you like. I can take those numbers, and make the completely accurate statement (based upon your numbers):

"The Majority of Forum goers who expressed a preference are either Supportive or Indifferent to the Resmod program. (51.8%)"

The Metaverse Messenger poll didn't give folks the option for "Undecided or Indifferent". As such, my personal feelings weren't counted there. I doubt I was the only one that couldn't make a Yes or No vote.

To me, this is like Bush claiming he has a "Mandate" by claiming a "majority" of votes in the 2000 election. In that case and this one - a "majority" does not neccesarily mean an overwhelming one.

Quite apart from Travis's observation that your own poll shows nothing of the sort, the most you could say is that most of those forumgoers who expressed a preference were either in favour of or indifferent or against the resmods, NOT that most forumgoers are against it. Most forumgoers, I say again, do not post...or vote.
Cali

You're absolutely right, Cali - I should edit that

Neutrality to it is like voting for a thirsd party candidate in the US political system: Only one candidate can win. Against won that poll.

As I've stated in another thread, if you are against something you are a lot more likely to vote in a poll against it, than if you're for or neutral towards it. Especially if there are no current plans to do away with it.

Zap

This isn't an election, Jonas. You asked an informal poll of how people felt.

As such, informally, the majority of folks that decided to vote in your poll are either supportive or indifferent to the resmod program (51.8%).

There's no debate on that.... the above statement is a fact.

However, we can both interpret the results of your poll to suit. My point: Forum polls have never been a good indicator of the 'pulse' of the community either way because:

a) The results of most polls are easily skewed to suit the agenda of the poster

b) The majority of folks don't vote

I considered it a FORMAL poll.

Therefore a majority of the forumgoers are against the resmod program. That is a fact.

I didn't skew and I didn't try to sway the votes..as far as not voting, their loss.

Their loss? I don't see the ResMod program going away, currently. So it doesn't seem to have really mattered one way or another did it now? Other than the fact you can walk around with the skewed figures..

This statement makes me even less likely to believe your poll as it shows you know absolutely nothing about polls, politics or statistics.

Also, the fact that the poll is made by you, and you are one of the most rabid supporters of getting rid of the resmods, skews it horribly. It's like George Bush going house to house with his armed goons and asking folks if he's doing a good job. Of course they are not going to say to his face that he isn't. That doesn't necessarily reflect what they think after they close the door on him.

Also, web polls can be easily "padded."

Also, the results of your actual forum poll is (rounded off)

40% like the resmods
48% don't

Wow, how compelling.

And what is the margin of error on that poll?
8%????

Sorry. Wrong.

It is a core premise of polling that ANYONE can theoretically design a completely objective poll regardless of their personal biases and preferences IF they try.

Consequently, I won't comment on the rest of your post a it appears to be built on an invalid foundation.

No, it was imposed against the wishes of the majority, after asking for input, and it doesn't work. I can't see it going away.

I for one, hadn't voted on that poll until now. As in my experience anyone who sticks up for ResMods, in a thread started by someone who is so obviously against them, gets attacked for his or her position. So I left that thread well alone. And I should think a lot of others had too.

You can't say against the wishes of the majority until theres a conclusive poll, which, as of yet, there isn't.

As for it not working, thats a matter of opinion. Some people are against it and always will be, they just seem to be a bit more vocal about it than the people who support it.

Zap

Edit: A large amount of people say they want roll backs to previous versions straight after major updates. People don't go around making "DON'T ROLL BACK!!" threads.

If LL made decisions based on peoples first impressions of things, I don't know where we'd be now.

Wrong.

The key word in your post is "theoretically." In practice, the structure of the poll, the methodology of the pollster and a million little details can get in the way. We don't even know these things in regards this poll.

This is why political polls are always conducted by third (impartial) parties who publish their methodology and always conduct the poll in the same exact way.

There are many ways in which a self-made poll can be biased, among them the fact that whatever the result, the interpretation of it can be skewed to the "pollsters way of thinking" which is exactly what has happened in this case. (read Travis's response).

That you would use the word "always" in conjunction with conduct, polls and political in a post illustrates why it is important for me to ignore any further posts by you on this subject. I feel that much more ignorant for having read the above.

Why hasn't this thread been locked? The TOS does NOT say you can put someone's name in the title to compliment them or encourage them. Also, this thread is directed to one individual, and as such does NOT belong in the forums.

This is not the place for messages directed to one singular person or group.

THIS THREAD VIOLATES THE TOS.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious. NOW will you (the Lindens) believe us when we say that the resmods are biased, that moderation is imposed via whim and unfairly, and that the resmods hide behind the rules when it is convenient for them to do so and are lenient when it is convenient for them to be so?

And by the way this thread should really be moved to notices and well wishes and THEN locked. That's the way you treat the rest of us -- so lets see some action here Zap (I call out Zap since he's actually be active in this thread and has failed to give it the same treatment he gives other threads that so are so clearly in the wrong forum and so clearly violate the TOS).

So how come you haven't moved this or locked it hmmm? It clearly violates the TOS. It clearly is a notice to another resident. WTF? There are rules here to be followed and we know how much you love to follow the rules.