thanks...for nothing

enough already, it happened..lets move on...thanks to all those who were really helpful & kind ...the matter was passed to LL to draw attention to this script...

~the end~

now for sometihng new

Have you filed a report? The earlier you file one, the chances of recovery are there. Do file one immediately if you have not.

Another case today of the money stealing script; this is scary.

yes, i did file a report...but it asked for the residents name to file it..and both names i had (the creator of the script and the name of the individual who received the stolen money) were not listed in the profile search inworld, although presumably they DO have an active account somewhere along the line, or they wouldnt do this? So i filed it...using a name i cold find..and explained in the report why i had filed it this way...I guess itll get tossed out

I waited 9 months to get my mentor application approved. When it finally happened, and I began to see the questions posted to the group IMs, I was so disheartened by the amount of stupid/unhelpful/inaccurate replies that 'mentors' posted, that I routinely ignored all requests and invitations to attend an Orientation class and waited to be bumped out of the group. Thank goodness that didn't take 9 months too. Not a sweeping generalisation, just a personal observation.

Faithless, shouldn't all of this appear in your transaction history, including exactly whom the money went to? If it truly happened as you describe, this is a serious problem that could ruin SL. It is important that you get help from LL either through live help or a ticket.

1) No offense, but being a mentor, you should be able to handle such a basic and typical situation.

2)That is basically how the group chat channel works. You say what your question is and then a mentor will take explain it to you in either IM or will physically come to you.

LL really needs to implement some sort of test on incoming mentors. A mentor needs to be able to deal with different situations and are representative(at least in some aspects) of LL itself.

Waited to get bumped from the group? There is a "Leave" option you know.

Objects CANNOT take money unless people give them debit permissions.

PLEASE READ THE DEBIT PERMISSION WARNING!!!!!

Disagree. That seems to suggest that being bestowed with a mentor tag indicates that you know how to deal with every problem or issue that SL throws up. I know some people in the menotr group who come to me to ask them with things. They don't just try and muddle through and get it wrong. If the attitude of mentors is to work independently of one another to resolve one's own issues, why bother having a group at all?

I know.

SL Mentors cover a broad range of knowledge regarding SL.
Some are not technical, but social. Ask me about how to pimp out your avatar with a nice skin, clothes and ao, you would come out looking like frankenstien monster, but i'm good at technicial issues. All the mentors have a role with valuable input and experiences.
Unfortually, some mentors see their primary job as IM police and nothing else.
To file an AR with the no does not show you use a linden name like Blue Linden and in the report description put either the name or that you do not know the name. In your transaction history you will find where the lindens when to. When the name is not found in search it's because the account has already been deleted, so you where not the first person to get hit the that money stealing item. You have a good chance of getting your lindens back.
Summary:
1) Do not give debit permission to object unless you know what you are doing.
2) Take back or detach the object that is taking your money, this will stop it.
3) Use a linden name for AR if you cannot find the name ie (Blue Linden).
4) Check your transaction history
5) Ignore the IM police mentors.
6) Every mentor is valuable (except the IM police).

thanks Destiny I see displayed in some of the posts the sort of attitudes that were present when i had my problem...i find that dissapointing to be honest.

I never claimed to know everything when I presented myself to offer my services as a mentor...Ive been in SL for almost a year and I learn something new everyday, I think that rocks. Im good with people...my forte isnt technical, although I can build a mean tiki house and landscape very well...you need help with your flexi clothes or adjusting your hair, skin & shape probs call me , Im cool with that! I just asked for some help...that was all. I never expected the backlash Ive received..why are some people so aggressive? I thought the mentors would be more cohesive..but as in real life...we seem to be a mixed bunch lol.If I cant help or be constructive, I tend not to join the fray, and just read absorb the info that others give.

For those that tackled the actual problem i had..the item wasnt something I was wearing, so I couldnt *take it off or back into my inventory"..it was a micro cube...I was sat at my large beach resort surrounded by scripted objects, so finding it took a lot of time..it was TEENY! and buried in the bamboo floor of the textured floor. Yes i hit deny...several hundred times...we're looking at the script right now...to see how it works (my partner is a scripter) I have reported this...and im hopeful that as the account seems to be already deleted i might get something back..if i dont ce la vie. I wont ever accept another freebie from an automatic gift giver thats for sure lol.

For those that feel I should jump ship JUST because there was something I couldnt deal with in the vast arena of SL...sorry, Im not...Im honest enough to hold MY hands up and say I dont know it all...ive never proclaimed to. However...what I do know (a fair bit as it happens) i share freely with compassion and humour...thanks to all of you who replied , yet another learning experience
Fai xx

I never stated EVERY problem. Your warping my statement. I said basic problems, a money stealing script is a basic problem...

Also, mentors do work together...group meetings...a website...group chat, I already answered your question on

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I totally agree with that, it seems that being a mentor is like being in a competition.. I dunno most of things abt SL but i am in this group to help, and asking for help is normal and i would freak out like Fai and i would immediately seek help from my fellow mentors

It's impossible to file a report on an avatar that doesn't come up in the people chooser. At least, if the person's not showing up like the OP says, the offender has likely been dealt with.

I'm just trying to figure out how the script was able to take the person's money if they were hitting Deny instead of Accept.

I would be interested to hear this as well.

Youre a mentor ?

Do you normally go round shouting at people in trouble and who need help like this ??

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I just peeked at the new permissions window and it is an improvement over what we used to have, but I don't think a checkbox which has to be manually checked before the grant button can actually be clicked would hurt at all (or something similar to the TOS acceptance window).

Not to stop people who blindly grant anyway, but to make it harder to misclick which is what I think happened to the OP. The accept and the deny button are just too close together, it should take an extra step to enable the accept in the first place.

It would also be preventive in case LL ever messes up and sets the accept button as the default and triggerable just by pressing the space button.
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Faithless, I am very sorry to hear what happened to you. And, you are right, the mentor group has become a bunch of hostile IM channel nazi's -- it is embarrassing. There is inappropriate commentary that happens on the IM channel, however, being an outright assh**e about it discredits the entire mentor group. There is one individual in particular that is worse than all the others and why this person is still allowed to mentor is beyond me.

Wonder if it is the one who started screaming at me in Mentals for using the term "bitchfest" (as in trying to stop one escalating with a little gentle humour) for "cussing" and proceeded to screech at me when I sent a perfectly nice IM saying that I didn't think it was too bad a thing to have said (that's not even swearing here ... not even CLOSE to it) who then screeched again in the channel for taking it to IM and when I said in that IM then please feel free to mute me if I am offending you, screeched about THAT in public from the IM itself.

And that person was on their account from 2004. Sheesh.

zomg you're a genius.
I bet she *never* thought of tha..oh wait- yes she did! she already said she did! she hit deny repeatedly!!
I absolutely love how you waltzed into this forum and informed us that these scripts and problems are basic enough that any mentor should know how to handle them.
Yet, you can't even read a simple post to figure out that it *wasn't* a basic problem.
I'm awarding you the crappiest so-called Mentor award of the day for this moronic post and no doubt any more pearls of wisdom you can fling at us.

This "basic problem" I have witnessed several times since I first come onto Second Life, to me this is not very "basic" and these scripts are able to take monies from accounts they are clever the writers, do not underestimate them.
I have personaly not had these problems most have with inventory or losses only the "basic" faults such as slow load clothing or slow load world items these to me would be basic, maybe accidental loss of items in inventory due to Second Life crashing or a data base error may class as basic.
And yes you are very helpful Mr/Miss Bobbyb30 with your way of talking, I would class this as very offensive to shout at one another.
We are all here to help one another first and foremost, without the ability to do this how do we be able to help new people that arrive.
Fellow Mentor Kieohae

Hello all.
Regarding these scripts, I have not had much experience with scripts but I have some time in the past to open and adjust, some with menus, these menus are changable and the words in the little boxes are what the writer is able to put in.
Even though it has a Deny it may well be written that no matter if either is pressed it has the same result.
Remember script writers are extreemly clever and find ways to exploit many aspect of Second Life client.
Fellow Mentor Kieohae

i agree but disagree ....i agree that people should have some knowledge of what it is there explaining....and get in due to the fact they want to help... not just be on a power trip....but u cant know everything theres always something u dont know and if faced with this problem i always try to help the person by offering to find the answers they seek mentors group does have people that yell about spam so i join mental mentors very help full as its for as they call spam