thanks...for nothing

Normally I'd tease you for waking up a 3-month-old thread, but I have a question:

You can become a mentor with a name like "FetalHarvest?"

Because their is no concept of logic these days in the group

umm ya? why not

It's pretty offensive.

OUTSTANDING idea Kitty!!! This is the best suggestion I've heard yet!!! Hopefully LL will take notice and implement it immediately.

With that sort of attitude I remain glad I refused some friends' attempts at talking me into applying to be a mentor.

You'd think a coach would be a little above "ZOMG Y U NOT NOE THAT."

/me quietly waits to be forum AR'd.

I'd forgotten all about that suggestion . Thanks for quoting it, I'll hunt for a similar JIRA or post up a new one when I have time later .

As a new mentor, I think it's a shame that some people have tarnished the name of the Mentors, I have found them very helpful and friendly and they work hard to help the newcomers to SL. I think maybe there should be a more rigorous selection process, to weed out those who just want the status from those who genuinely want to help.

I have to say too what is up with the forum necro?

Agree. I sat in the queue for months in 2006 before bailing when I realised that the group had its fair share of dicks and the only prerequisite was the ability to click an application button.

Who needs a label to help people?

To this day I see mentards at infohubs marching around like miniature Basil Fawltys, chastising relative newcomers for disobeying their draconian vision of the ToS.

Sure, there are good mentors about, but they are just Second Life users like any other.

I used to think like that too But really...if all the people who think they would be good mentors dont apply because of the minority of silly ones puts them off...it wont change.

I dont think being a mentor makes you special in anyway...BUT...when i have had time to hang out in OI's etc..at least new people know we're there to help them when they see the tag . I dont know HOW to march about like basil fawlty...but i always found him quite amusing

It wasnt always like that, thre use to be many wonderful and cheerful people. Now well can`t say its that way anymore. Oh there are still some great people but really. seeing ex greifter in thier main avie and then their alts makes some older mentors leave the group because of the shame of how low its become. NEVER beenbanned? is the rule a? well i know for a fact atleast 25 that have been and our in the group. Some even take their profiles nt showing the mentor titles because they don`t want to be reported for their land selling rip-offs as well.........Well can`t do anything about it. because LLABS says it doesnt matter anymore.....................Well time moves on................

ive met many *cheerful and wonderful* mentors...and i wont spoil the efforts of those people by broadbrushing them into the same group as possibly the few not so great ones ive met, or heard about...

I was accepted as a mentor and that is exactly why I dropped right out of that group shortly thereafter. I'll just continue on helping when I can, individually. There's just no need for the hostility.

Thats what matters..........knowing the ones that are useful and cheerful and wonderful......stay away from the ego heads and all wil be find.....

dont get me wrong almost all i have met make me glad i signed up as a mentor its been very rewarding and i like helping as often as i can

Eiteher you havent seen some in action, or less of there for.Oh there out there. and when you see them you know which they are.

If they can't handle such a typical and common scamming situation, then they need mentoring themselves.

You waited 5 months to say that? Again, I go back to my original response - you cannot expect mentors to know every single little aspect of SL. I would hope that the majority of them knew where to direct me if I had a query, but I would be astounded if every mentor knew every little thing. Can you say that you know every thing there is to know? Know the answers to every query?

laughs waht you think they have a 6 month old waiting period for new mentors now........... Besides the game today is not even close to what it use to be........A better data base of info, etc etc.........

Isn't that your job? Good coaching should surely result in competent mentors...

You mean berating them publicly isn't good enough?

Unfortunately you'll never stop the self appointed spam police. They are the one reason I have almost quit being a mentor on numerous occaisions. If a linden tells me to shut it then fair enough, but I don't expect to be told what to do by some jumped up self appointed spam policeman. Especially when the fundamental rule of being a mentor is to be polite, instead of being a big head and trying to enforce rules that they are not supposed to be enforcing. Try being useful. Its saddening watching someone trying to belittle someone in the group chat by forcing the rules down their throats.

For those that persist in doing this (im pretty sure you know who you are) instead of doing it publicly to flex your mentor muscles in an attempt to appear more important than you really are. Try sending a polite IM and offer some help if you can, if you have nothing to contribute other than "this is not the channel for that please take it to the mentals",then please refrain from doing so and contributing to the spam and trying to humiliate someone in what seems like an excercise in feeling better about your own inadequacy. You're far from perfect yourselves and never will be with the attitudes you have.

There are no "self appointed spam police" on the Mentor channel. There is a simple rule: it's not a chat channel, so you don't use it for that.

I see this thread has turned into various subjects which is fine with me

First of all, to address the original poster, there is not an object or person that can take your money unless you give them permission to do so. If you asked for help, after the fact, no one can help you but Linden Lab.

As for the self appointed chat police in the mentor group I am as disgusted by their behavior as anyone else. Statements such as "ok people please take it to IM" is suggesting that the poster is some sort of superior being who has control over us peons. Bzzzt.....wrong! These self appointed police do more to ruin the morale of mentors than anything I have seen.

Rather than add more chat to the Second Life Mentor IM channel, one can just file abuse reports. Change the location to "Second Life Mentor IM chat" and include a suggestion to refer the abuse report to a Vteam member such as (pick you favorite one or two).

I don't know if this does any good but at least it doesn't add more chat to the Second Life Mentor IM channel.