New identity authentication system?

If Linden is able to locate us through whatever means as a way of their having verification of who we are and they have it on file so that they can put soem sort of verified tag on our profiles..fine. But if that info is going to be available to other residents, I'll opt out.

All the casinos might get together and contribute to set up some rl authority to collect private info through a web site. In some ways similar to how slexchange has a separate registration system. You would verify that through an in world terminal so your sl id = web id. Then you would have access to all casinos that were part of this system.

Country info can be verified from your ip address on the website.

Why should LL spend time and money perform these tasks? LL should not care where you live. Leave it to the ppl who need it.

Yeah otherwise its Wacko express time.

Thats the kinda of annoyance we need.

As his mom suddenly shouts "Jim Bob, time to take your daughter to school" Jim Bob shouts back:"Damnit Mom, she's your daughter too you know".

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I think worrying about a verification system for the Payment info used people is kind of pointless.

Their effort should be to help the unverified people become verfied in some way.

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One major problem with that though. Proxies. There are occasions when I don't wish people to know my home IP adress, but don't mind them knowing the IP of my server in the netherlands, so I run everything through a private proxy. Everything that uses an IP to country system breaks. google think I'm dutch, php.net think I'm dutch, lots of others as well.

Open proxies are slower and die pretty quickly (which is why I don't use them) but they are there in the thousands, for anyone to use. They're also very easy to set up.

Granted, most open proxies are web only, so it wont work for the SL client, but there's a few open socks proxies around.
Throw in things like TOR and darknets, and the whole IP to country thing becomes a mess.

The most likely route to proper location verification is through credit card companies and paypal. You already need a paypal verified account before you can link it to your SL account, marking a delivery address as required if it isn't already would be 2 minutes work.

If it is based on credit cards, then it will show a verified location at odds with my real location. That information, just like proxies, can be gamed in ways. Technically, I don't suppose there's much to stop me getting (via a friend) one of those pre-paid credit cards from the US of A and pretending I'm American.

I don't think (actually, I very sincerely hope they wouldn't) paypal is much into the idea of sharingyour personal details you have registered there with a third party (LL), let alone a fourth party (the other SL residents).

Of course, I'm just an interested observer. Since I have zero intention of verifying any of my personal details (no need to, since I don't plan on gambling or whoring), it doesn't affect me.

That depends on if people decided to ban avatars for other resaons based on their "verified details"

Anti americans could ban all americans just becuase they hate the war in Iraq, for example.

While its quite possible this doesnt matter - why visit intolerant people?, I can see people banning others for several reasons other than the SL Escorting and gambling business.

Some people will find a way around every rule ever made. But why make it easy for them by not having any rules at all?

Guess we're back to where we started. Let's not have any rules...............oh wow, now that's great idea. LOL

/me wonders, given the explosion of the internet over the last 10 years and the ability for just about anybody to buy just about anything online, how long it will be before credit card companies offer opt-in (for now anyway) details like age range & general location..

This wouldn't have happened if Al Gore hadn't invented the Internet.....

The thing with credit card companies is that they tend to do some thourough checking before giving you a card (at least they do here). It might not always seem to be the case the way they send out mailshots to everyone and their dog, but they probably already know where you live, your DOB, phone number, mothers maiden name etc. even if they allow you to use a different address.

There are already merchant systems that will accept an address with the credit card number and deny the transaction if the address is incorrect. This allows the verification of location without giving information to 3rd parties you haven't trusted with your address.
A friend of mine couldn't buy L$ recently because she made a mistake when putting in her address with the card info.

The information they have on you can be faked like anything else, but its a lot less likely to be faked than an IP address or MAC address.

ok, since I don't plan on having any identifying information in there, they can't ban me from a parcel for what I am. I suppose they could set a parcel to "Serbo-Melanesians only", and since I happen to be an unverified Serbo-Melanesian, that would cut me out of such a parcel. But again, the ability to meet people from anywhere is a key attraction for me.

Any prejudice-based ban isn't a place I'd want to be anyway. And any ban based on legal restrictions isn't an activity I plan on doing anyway.

RL example: In Japan, thee are many estate agents (and other businesses) that will refuse to provide a service to foreigners. I am eternally grateful that such shady people refuse to do business with me. It improves the odds that I am dealing with a decent person when the prejudiced ones refuse my money. It works the same in SL too.

Ok all due repect warda.But these days Japanese want non japanese ( ameriacans, brits, and other europeans) to rent from them......But other like chinese, koreans, etc this still does happen.....In my business we mainly due with non Japanese and they at times are treated better then Japanese themselves.

I love the idea they are going to do some major changes to this. I think its long over due in fact. I think there is a ton of under age kids in the adult world and even on this forum for that matter. I think they need a much better system to filter.

I think that some people would actually like this based on a few of the posts.

Looks around waiting to see...

"This forum isn't for general discussion; there are many Resident Sites where this discussion is appropriate — Resident Answers is for Resident-to-Resident help. I'll close this thread..."

Thank god I live in the U.S. FREE Speach.

I say ban everyone from the net until they can prove they are over 18.

Er.. LL servers are private property..

*moves*

Strife does the Happy Feet

Well, it possibly IS about pedophiles, to some extent. The issue of "ageplay" as its innocently termed is one of the two major issues that have reared their heads here (along with gambling.)

Gambling, in RL or SL, is one of those "victimless crimes" that I just don't agree with being banned or criminalized. Sexual "ageplay" doesn't fall into that category however. If SL is a fantasy life, then SL (sexual) "ageplay" is acting out fantasies about pedophilia. I honestly don't see how it can be considered to be anything else.

Lets just ban everyone from the net , period.

The computers are all set up wrong anyhow. Instead of the average person being able to go out and see information - the computers are supposed to be set up to keep and eye on the average person.

So someone messed up somewhere, we need stomp that stuff out (preferably with a jackbooted foot) and put it right!

Considering we had been told repeatedly during the time open-registration was implimented that verification of the identity of residents was practically impossible for LL anyway... I wonder what they think they know now about how to verify identity that they didn't know on 06/06/06.