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Pendari Lorentz

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09-03-2005 14:03

YAY FOR BOOBIES!!!!

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Jesrad Seraph

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09-03-2005 14:07

Flapping, jointed wings and assorted additional, animated limbs (centaurs), nifty electronic worn gadgets that open/close, handguns that deploy (minigun with multiple, actually rotating barrels ?), retractable claws, hair and cloth flowing in the wind, animated pets on your shoulder, whole non-human, animated bodies (hail invisiprims), prim eyes that look in the right direction (should be already possible though), etc...

I'm sure I'm missing a lot.

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Burke Prefect

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09-03-2005 15:52

I want a minigun with spinning barrels! I want a pumpings shotgun! I want an EIGHTBALL GUN!

As for 'useful' attachments I think a Reboot-style G-Unit would be nice.

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Torley Linden

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09-03-2005 15:54

From: Pendari Lorentz

YAY FOR BOOBIES!!!!

Some1 can now do those Madonna pointy (conical) bras that can poke your eyes out, and have tassles on them that spin around and around.

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Devyn Grimm

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Posts: 270

09-03-2005 16:23

Awesome news! My mind is racing with the possibilities. I think avatars will really become more lifelike with this.

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Madame Maracas

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Join date: 7 Jun 2004

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09-03-2005 16:30

so, googly-eyed, springy novelty glasses?

Men's "bits" that bounce and jiggle? mmmmmmmMMMM

beanie caps w/propellers on top?

spin the drum stick anims?

fishies swimming in stacked heel shoes ala Elton John?

spinning bowties?

The mind boggles ...

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Keknehv Psaltery

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09-03-2005 16:35

Finally, we won't have to tell the newbies trying to make wings that "It can't be done".

LL has gotten a lot of people happy with them again with this feature.

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Lost Thereian

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09-03-2005 16:59

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
whao . !! yay cant wait to see this in world!

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Keknehv Psaltery

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09-03-2005 17:21

Is it just me, or was this thread suddenly moved?

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Torley Linden

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09-03-2005 17:26

Uh... and a post of mine disappeared. :\

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Oz Spade

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09-03-2005 17:26

From: Beatfox Xevious

I was in preview, and I saw someone standing in Cordova with a globe rotating around their head. After seeing it follow their head motions perfectly, I came to realize that the globe was, in fact, an attachment. Apparently, the Lindens never bothered to mention that 1.7 lets us use llSetPos(), llSetRot(), and llTargetOmega() to make attachments move.

Holy. Cow.

THANK YOU, Lindens!! You have no idea how long us avatar enthusiasts have been desiring this -- if you did, you would have told us about your new "secret feature", right?

This will surely be a HUGE BOON to av creativity.

I decided to try a bit of tail enhancement on my av:

I sense another furry av revolution approaching.

Very nice work Beatfox! The tail looks GREAT!

Can't wait to see what things people come up with for this. It is great that we *finaly* can make use of the nice functions and don't have to use work-arounds.

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Tikki Kerensky

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09-03-2005 17:37

From: Pendari Lorentz

too bad boobies aren't attachments!!

There are some. They scare me. >.>

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Keknehv Psaltery

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09-03-2005 17:40

Well, technically they could be moved using a shader program...

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Beatfox Xevious

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09-04-2005 13:08

From: Keknehv Psaltery

Is it just me, or was this thread suddenly moved?

It appears to have been duplicated. >o_O<

The original thread is still in the General forum: /108/8e/60165/1.html

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Upshaw Underhill

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09-04-2005 13:20

From: Madame Maracas

so, googly-eyed, springy novelty glasses?

Men's "bits" that bounce and jiggle? mmmmmmmMMMM

beanie caps w/propellers on top?

spin the drum stick anims?

fishies swimming in stacked heel shoes ala Elton John?

spinning bowties?

The mind boggles ...

Ok, this is to funny... I accidentally found out about the new motion *because* of a bowtie I tried to make spin ages ago. Never bothered to take the script out, put on that AV in preview and boom... it spun. w00t!

Um, but just to point out much simpler solutions:

Beanie cap w/prop: I already built one of those in 1.6, just a texture anim using rotation(even turns on and off with walk.) (Never made it but the exact same thing would power a good bowtie.)

Swimming fishies in the boots: Already exist. Texture anim on a cylinder a-la Fleabite's old swimming fishies.

I've no idea how much, but anything that has to send an update to the client is going to be a slower method all 'round, Sim-side, Client-side, whatever. Texture anims are (or can be) permanent and once activated require no script intervention at all (my texture anim scripts always self-delete unless they turn on/off on command.)

Awesome tailswish Beatfox. Cannot wait to start experimenting more, once 1.7 is a little less crashalicious.

L8r,
UU

P.S. erm...as for Men's Bits... that's a bit like a light-saber isn't it? every Jedi should build his own.

P.P.S. hmmmm google-eyed glasse... ooh ooh has anyone tried hinges yet?

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Torley Linden

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09-04-2005 13:46

O... is it just me or do GIF animations play sped-up and faster in Firefox than IE? Beatbox is absolutely smooth here!

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Burke Prefect

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09-04-2005 13:47

A multitool that changes configurations from scrubbie to pistol to huge ass gun.

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Beatfox Xevious

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09-04-2005 13:52

Glad you folks are amused by my tail action.

Wait, that didn't sound quite right...

BTW Upshaw, the rotation function I used was llTargetOmega(), which is client-side just like the texture anim function (i.e. no updating after the initial activation).

And yes, Torley, GIF anims do seem to play faster in Firefox. Yet another browser difference that web developers have to take into consideration.

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Ziggy Puff

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Join date: 15 Jul 2005

Posts: 1,143

09-07-2005 15:27

Has anyone dug deeper into this? What are the limitations on llSetPos()? Do the coordinates change to be relative to the avatar's position, or are they still at the region/sim level? Is there a limit to how far an attachment can be SetPos'd from the avatar? And finally, do the physics functions like MoveToTarget and LookAt/RotLookAt work too?

Thanks,
Ziggy

Chance Abattoir

Future Rockin' Resmod

Join date: 3 Apr 2004

Posts: 3,898

09-07-2005 18:10

From: Torley Torgeson

O... is it just me or do GIF animations play sped-up and faster in Firefox than IE? Beatbox is absolutely smooth here!

Yup, faster in Firefox.

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Strife Onizuka

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09-08-2005 00:35

They are still working out what the limits should be on these functions with regards to attachments.

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Psyra Extraordinaire

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09-08-2005 08:06

Time to start learning how llSetPos(), llSetRot(), and llTargetOmega() work.

Arrrgh, I hope this doesn't involve algebra... :>

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Ziggy Puff

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09-08-2005 08:28

Thanks Strife.

Rei Kuhr

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09-09-2005 17:11

From: Psyra Extraordinaire

Time to start learning how llSetPos(), llSetRot(), and llTargetOmega() work.

Arrrgh, I hope this doesn't involve algebra... :>

Nope, they require Trigonometry >.<

Neil Protagonist

FX Monkey

Join date: 11 Jul 2003

Posts: 346

09-09-2005 22:35

And not easy stuff either, I was attempting to get some non target omega rotation out of it and was having some difficulty, however I am not the sharpest pencil in the box so I am sure someone else can make it work

At any rate a very cool feature.

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HOLY COW -- Moving Attachments In 1.7 Preview!!
Pendari Lorentz Senior Member Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 4,372	09-03-2005 14:03 YAY FOR BOOBIES!!!! _____________________ hugs everyone
Jesrad Seraph Nonsense Join date: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,463	09-03-2005 14:07 Flapping, jointed wings and assorted additional, animated limbs (centaurs), nifty electronic worn gadgets that open/close, handguns that deploy (minigun with multiple, actually rotating barrels ?), retractable claws, hair and cloth flowing in the wind, animated pets on your shoulder, whole non-human, animated bodies (hail invisiprims), prim eyes that look in the right direction (should be already possible though), etc... I'm sure I'm missing a lot. _____________________ Either Man can enjoy universal freedom, or Man cannot. If it is possible then everyone can act freely if they don't stop anyone else from doing same. If it is not possible, then conflict will arise anyway so punch those that try to stop you. In conclusion the only strategy that wins in all cases is that of doing what you want against all adversity, as long as you respect that right in others.
Burke Prefect Cafe Owner, Superhero Join date: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 2,785	09-03-2005 15:52 I want a minigun with spinning barrels! I want a pumpings shotgun! I want an EIGHTBALL GUN! As for 'useful' attachments I think a Reboot-style G-Unit would be nice. "Glitch, Ghetto Blaster!" rocks out _____________________ My Blog \| My Board \| My Cafe\| My Slex
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	09-03-2005 15:54 From: Pendari Lorentz YAY FOR BOOBIES!!!! Some1 can now do those Madonna pointy (conical) bras that can poke your eyes out, and have tassles on them that spin around and around. _____________________
Devyn Grimm the Hermit Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 270	09-03-2005 16:23 Awesome news! My mind is racing with the possibilities. I think avatars will really become more lifelike with this. _____________________
Madame Maracas Not who you think I am... Join date: 7 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,953	09-03-2005 16:30 so, googly-eyed, springy novelty glasses? Men's "bits" that bounce and jiggle? mmmmmmmMMMM beanie caps w/propellers on top? spin the drum stick anims? fishies swimming in stacked heel shoes ala Elton John? spinning bowties? The mind boggles ... _____________________ RadioRadio - http://radioradiosl.com M 6 Hobbes Abattoir T 7 Sezmra Svorag W 4 Brian Mason W 6 Moira Stern W 8 Nala Galatea Th 6 Chet Neurocam F 6 Vertigo Paris F 9 Madame Maracas S 5 Madame Maracas S 8 TriNala Su 6 Trinity Serpentine http://madamemaracas.wordpress.com - Madame Maracas Blaaagh Plurk - http://www.plurk.com/user/MadameMaracas
Keknehv Psaltery Hacker Join date: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 1,185	09-03-2005 16:35 Finally, we won't have to tell the newbies trying to make wings that "It can't be done". LL has gotten a lot of people happy with them again with this feature. _____________________ LSL Wiki \| Scripting Mentors \| Keknehv's Particle Script \| WarpPos
Lost Thereian Bleh. Join date: 27 May 2004 Posts: 271	09-03-2005 16:59 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO whao . !! yay cant wait to see this in world! _____________________ Lost. http://www.naughtydesigns.net/
Keknehv Psaltery Hacker Join date: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 1,185	09-03-2005 17:21 Is it just me, or was this thread suddenly moved? _____________________ LSL Wiki \| Scripting Mentors \| Keknehv's Particle Script \| WarpPos
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	09-03-2005 17:26 Uh... and a post of mine disappeared. :\ _____________________
Oz Spade ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,708	09-03-2005 17:26 From: Beatfox Xevious I was in preview, and I saw someone standing in Cordova with a globe rotating around their head. After seeing it follow their head motions perfectly, I came to realize that the globe was, in fact, an attachment. Apparently, the Lindens never bothered to mention that 1.7 lets us use llSetPos(), llSetRot(), and llTargetOmega() to make attachments move. Holy. Cow. THANK YOU, Lindens!! You have no idea how long us avatar enthusiasts have been desiring this -- if you did, you would have told us about your new "secret feature", right? This will surely be a HUGE BOON to av creativity. I decided to try a bit of tail enhancement on my av: I sense another furry av revolution approaching. Very nice work Beatfox! The tail looks GREAT! Can't wait to see what things people come up with for this. It is great that we finaly can make use of the nice functions and don't have to use work-arounds. _____________________ "Don't anticipate outcome," the man said. "Await the unfolding of events. Remain in the moment." - Konrad
Tikki Kerensky Insane critter Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 687	09-03-2005 17:37 From: Pendari Lorentz too bad boobies aren't attachments!! There are some. They scare me. >.> _____________________ Pudding takes away the pain, the pain of not having pudding.
Keknehv Psaltery Hacker Join date: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 1,185	09-03-2005 17:40 Well, technically they could be moved using a shader program... _____________________ LSL Wiki \| Scripting Mentors \| Keknehv's Particle Script \| WarpPos
Beatfox Xevious is THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE Join date: 1 Jun 2004 Posts: 879	09-04-2005 13:08 From: Keknehv Psaltery Is it just me, or was this thread suddenly moved? It appears to have been duplicated. >o_O< The original thread is still in the General forum: /108/8e/60165/1.html _____________________ My Beatworks: Zephyr Chimes wind chimes, the KanaMaster Japanese kana tutor, and the FREE Invisibility Prim Public. Look for them at the Luskwood General Store in Lusk (144, 165). "You have been frozen. You cannot move or chat. A pony will contact you via instant message (IM)." - mysterious system message I received after making off with Pony Linden
Upshaw Underhill Techno-Hobbit Join date: 13 Mar 2003 Posts: 293	09-04-2005 13:20 From: Madame Maracas so, googly-eyed, springy novelty glasses? Men's "bits" that bounce and jiggle? mmmmmmmMMMM beanie caps w/propellers on top? spin the drum stick anims? fishies swimming in stacked heel shoes ala Elton John? spinning bowties? The mind boggles ... Ok, this is to funny... I accidentally found out about the new motion because of a bowtie I tried to make spin ages ago. Never bothered to take the script out, put on that AV in preview and boom... it spun. w00t! Um, but just to point out much simpler solutions: Beanie cap w/prop: I already built one of those in 1.6, just a texture anim using rotation(even turns on and off with walk.) (Never made it but the exact same thing would power a good bowtie.) Swimming fishies in the boots: Already exist. Texture anim on a cylinder a-la Fleabite's old swimming fishies. I've no idea how much, but anything that has to send an update to the client is going to be a slower method all 'round, Sim-side, Client-side, whatever. Texture anims are (or can be) permanent and once activated require no script intervention at all (my texture anim scripts always self-delete unless they turn on/off on command.) Awesome tailswish Beatfox. Cannot wait to start experimenting more, once 1.7 is a little less crashalicious. L8r, UU P.S. erm...as for Men's Bits... that's a bit like a light-saber isn't it? every Jedi should build his own. P.P.S. hmmmm google-eyed glasse... ooh ooh has anyone tried hinges yet? _____________________ The Wiki is your friend.
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	09-04-2005 13:46 O... is it just me or do GIF animations play sped-up and faster in Firefox than IE? Beatbox is absolutely smooth here! _____________________
Burke Prefect Cafe Owner, Superhero Join date: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 2,785	09-04-2005 13:47 A multitool that changes configurations from scrubbie to pistol to huge ass gun. _____________________ My Blog \| My Board \| My Cafe\| My Slex
Beatfox Xevious is THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE Join date: 1 Jun 2004 Posts: 879	09-04-2005 13:52 Glad you folks are amused by my tail action. Wait, that didn't sound quite right... BTW Upshaw, the rotation function I used was llTargetOmega(), which is client-side just like the texture anim function (i.e. no updating after the initial activation). And yes, Torley, GIF anims do seem to play faster in Firefox. Yet another browser difference that web developers have to take into consideration. _____________________ My Beatworks: Zephyr Chimes wind chimes, the KanaMaster Japanese kana tutor, and the FREE Invisibility Prim Public. Look for them at the Luskwood General Store in Lusk (144, 165). "You have been frozen. You cannot move or chat. A pony will contact you via instant message (IM)." - mysterious system message I received after making off with Pony Linden
Ziggy Puff Registered User Join date: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,143	09-07-2005 15:27 Has anyone dug deeper into this? What are the limitations on llSetPos()? Do the coordinates change to be relative to the avatar's position, or are they still at the region/sim level? Is there a limit to how far an attachment can be SetPos'd from the avatar? And finally, do the physics functions like MoveToTarget and LookAt/RotLookAt work too? Thanks, Ziggy
Chance Abattoir Future Rockin' Resmod Join date: 3 Apr 2004 Posts: 3,898	09-07-2005 18:10 From: Torley Torgeson O... is it just me or do GIF animations play sped-up and faster in Firefox than IE? Beatbox is absolutely smooth here! Yup, faster in Firefox. _____________________ "The mob requires regular doses of scandal, paranoia and dilemma to alleviate the boredom of a meaningless existence." -Insane Ramblings, Anton LaVey
Strife Onizuka Moonchild Join date: 3 Mar 2004 Posts: 5,887	09-08-2005 00:35 They are still working out what the limits should be on these functions with regards to attachments. _____________________ Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey
Psyra Extraordinaire Corra Nacunda Chieftain Join date: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 1,533	09-08-2005 08:06 Time to start learning how llSetPos(), llSetRot(), and llTargetOmega() work. Arrrgh, I hope this doesn't involve algebra... :> _____________________ E-Mail Psyra at psyralbakor_at_yahoo_dot_com, Visit my Webpage at www.psyra.ca Visit me in-world at the Avaria sims, in Grendel's Children! ^^
Ziggy Puff Registered User Join date: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,143	09-08-2005 08:28 Thanks Strife.
Rei Kuhr Ground Repellant Join date: 18 May 2005 Posts: 54	09-09-2005 17:11 From: Psyra Extraordinaire Time to start learning how llSetPos(), llSetRot(), and llTargetOmega() work. Arrrgh, I hope this doesn't involve algebra... :> Nope, they require Trigonometry >.<
Neil Protagonist FX Monkey Join date: 11 Jul 2003 Posts: 346	09-09-2005 22:35 And not easy stuff either, I was attempting to get some non target omega rotation out of it and was having some difficulty, however I am not the sharpest pencil in the box so I am sure someone else can make it work At any rate a very cool feature. _____________________ "Control the things you can control, maggot. Let everything else take a flying fk at you, and if you must go down, go down with your guns blazing." -Cort Need fire? Visit my FX Store in Bisque(232, 4 Sick-N-Wrong Like Anime? Visit Nakama!

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