GET OVER IT! Good job Lindens!

Peel off enough of the pin-striped veneer and they're all the same fat cats. And those are the folks slowly sliding behind the wheel of SL....if they can get their wobbling carcasses into the door.



*laughs heartily* By whose definition? Those very actions give lie to any claim of being "liberal".

's real easy to talk the talk, ain't so to walk the walk.

well people do generally think they are right.
who actually argues a point they feel is wrong? granted there are one or two people that i suspect do this for the sake of pleasure, but overall i believe people think they are always right.

'liberal' and 'conservative' are terms that confuses me. for a non american, is the following true?:
labour=liberal
liberal=conservative

I'm always willing to learn the error of my ways.

Liberal = shining beacon of truth and justice, willing to help, guardian of all that is good.

Conservative = greedy wanker.

Moderate = Poor sap trying to muddle through the mess the above have made.

Now I forgot who said it but someone said that this new rule ensures only the most creative people are left in SL. Well the most creative people I know are into BDSM,Furrys, or are gay. While the vanillas are usually the unimaginative dullard wearing the 3 prim member that accosts you while shopping.

'liberal' def means something different here then!

Good thing conservatives are greedy, someone has to pay for all the liberals failed schemes and off the wall notions.

He he not bad. I used this one more than once

Liberal: Wants you to work so you can be taxed so they can give your money to people who alot of times don't deserve it. They like sex, and it's ok for you to as well. Just don't talk about it too much.

Conservative: Wants you to work so you can be taxed so they can give your money to people who a lot of times don't need it. They like sex too, sometimes more than liberals. But they refuse to talk about it and don't want you to have any.

Libertarian: Likes Money and Sex. Leave us alone. We don't want to talk about it.

Sounds like my neighborhood in RL and I just love it. We have the best coffee too.

The way it was going though, it was as though SL was only for the most exhibitionist and greedy of the kink expressive set and was colouring how SL was perceived generally. I see a big diff between SL sex and porn for profit. For me most of the kink groups are highly organized and creative places and if I don't like something, I don't snoop. I will go visit Gor and talk to the Free Women there and I don't invade anyone's privacy by looking at what other residents are doing. RP is a highly creative activity IMO.

Sex in SL can be a very powerful experience and I've met people here who live in the opposite sides of the world but are literally soulmates. Sex in SL is like souls touching for them. And also, if someone is feeling hot and bothered and has a one night stand (or more..you know what I mean) in SL, fine by me.

But the RL porn images I've seen while looking for hair or the last time it was a garden to visit is not what I want to see and its completely for profit. So I guess I'm pointing the "they are just in it for the money and don't care about anyone else" finger at those folks and I want them gone and I'm glad the Lindens are supporting that.

I hope what happens is that people continue to RP their kinks (except for sex with children) in sacred and free privacy and not put RL images in search or on 16m2 plots to extort neighbors to buy their plots in self defense. I would love there to be child avatars in SL just like I love the furries and robots and all the rest. But if their profile says they are for sale for sex, then I'm going to AR them.

Its pretty simple to me but I'm Canadian and we are tending to the live and let live and yes you can marry too.

"Not to be a republican at 20 is proof of want of heart; to be one at 30 is proof of want of head"-Francois Guizot

republican in the 19th cent french sense not the modern american sense, can be said as

if you are not a liberal when you are young you have no heart, to be one when older means you have no brain.

I think it's the same s**t but in different packages.

A very, very important point. Also, there's far too many wet liberals on the loose here, who would sooner step on a land-mine than communicate as equals, with those less educated than themselves. (I was going to put "well-educated" but that would beg the question).

Most of the people brave enough to post here that they support the Linden move have done so as honest, everyday types, forced into expressing themselves here by the foolish excesses of an out of control intellectual elite. It's those clever people, with their clever words and their B.S. about "liberty", who are coming away from this looking as if they are all sick perverts in need of some help, laying down a smartass smokescreen to cover up their kinky interests.

...which is how the majority really feel, if you let them have a voice. I'm not in that majority: I'm definitely kinky. I think I have a good idea of what my kink is, and I'm very sure I know the difference between harmful and harmless kink. I think both sides of this flamewar are making mistakes - the redneck majority are mistaken about what "bad sex" is and how it happens, and the intellectuals are mistaken about how to go about getting what they want, having a secret definition of "freedom" which includes "freedom from the prying eyes of stupid people".

neither of these two camps are going to get what they want by flaming in a forum and tippy-toeing around their true thoughts, or around the real problems, like:

- "I'm a smart person. My main role is to humiliate those less smart than me" (way to choose your "freedom" dude)

- "I for one have my opinion and anyone who presents an alternative is attempting to humiliate me" (that "for one" is such a giveaway. Chill out, maybe something more interesting is just beyond your initial emotional reaction. Why not stick around and see what it is?)

- "I would never condone kiddy sex but..." (kiddy sex is a hot-button, a little cultural trap like those stretchy nylon tubes you could jam your fingers in as a kid - only it's a concept, not a physical trap. Try to change the way you think about the topic: it is possible to consider it as a cultural oddity, without being the moth that goes close to the flame of lust or whatevaaaa)

It seems to me that there's something interesting happening with the fantasies people adopt. I don't see a link from role-play to real-world action, and I do see lots of holes in the nature of both policing these dubious fantasies, and how people are dealt with once they have been discovered (for instance, it's clearly very stupid to simply cast them out, either in SL or in society in general, because you lose track of them). There are a lot of bits of data coming in that show that when knee-jerk reactions are permitted, outcomes generally get worse (kids are kidnapped for sexual purposes at a constant, low rate. Before the public takeup of paedo panic, these kids would be returned, at least alive, and treatable. Nowadays, the perps who do this are inclined to kill the kids because they believe they will be hanged or knifed in jail or whatever... which isn't really a good result)

So, how to square the circle, and stop the rednecks from their fear of the intellectuals? How to loosen the social grip on this hot-button so that the professionals can deal with the issue in a way that gives every victim the best outcome? Is SL the place to game this out?

Passing beyond the simple emotions from both sides, I can see why the answer to that last one would be "no".

Vancouver... West End or The Drive?

I'm a Drive Gal.

Sure, as everyone who follows a religion is inevitably the same.

THAT is bigotry.
There are as many factes of religion as there are of atheism. Says me, ex-atheist and now Muslim. AND bi.

Extremists, be they atheist or religious, are NEVER good news.


And honestly, as I said in the other thread on the topic, stop using RL allusions and comparisons please. We're neither talking 9/11, nor Holocaust/Nazi regime, nor McCarthyism here.

Oh well, MAYBE a bit of McCarthyism. Just don't draw comparisons with RL events that killed literally thousands or even hundred thousands of people.

We already had the McCarthyism debate a few months ago.

Sorry, if that was before Feb 18, it was literally before my time....

Oh yes, it was personal meant in the direction of Voodoo... although I consider calling someone a forum troll is not really a personal attack.
Reread Voodoo's first message which he deleted, but was luckily quoted by many and then tell me more about personal attacks..... attacks on things people like, but he not... and some more other attacks.... And this is not the first thread that happened.

Morwen.

Yeah, and if I remember correctly we were butting heads on it a bit......ah, the memories.

What can I say, I am a complicated person.

But actually I thought it was Colette I argued the most with on the topic.

i agree. ^^

i genuinely thought the OP was being a troll. when he suggested copulating furries were responsible for STDs, i was convinced it was a humorous troll, designed to provoke some laughs - perhaps even intended to humiliate those who took it seriously. but it turned out it wasn't meant to be a funny or troll-like post at all.

i wasn't namecalling, but calling him out. trolls choose to be trolls. it's a deliberate strategy.
the biggest surprise is that the OP was actually quite serious, which - given assertions like the one about furries above - is a little sad really.

Oh definitely. No way was I comparing myself to Colette in terms of argumentativeness.(Just kidding Honey). We just had a lover's quarrel by comparison. Never mind that, tell me more about the Strawberries.

Well first I take a big ripe red strawberry....................muffled shouts, the sound of struggle..................... WE ARE SORRY BUT THIS POST VIOLATED OUR NEW TOS. THANK YOU THE FORUM PATROL.

Your location says Grand Rapids Michigan. Folks this a town that has spent 10 million dollars and a 30 years trying to shut down a dirty book store, Why am I not surprised what this poster is saying . Oh btw don't even think about getting a drink on Sunday.

The GR xtian reform dutchies hit SL.






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Hm, what's the rate of kids that go hungry there, how's the school system, what's the unemployment rate...