GET OVER IT! Good job Lindens!

I wont be =D

It can also be an amazing place to those with morals and standards too, believe it or not.

I don't know why "open mindedness" is somehow seen as 'superior', because there is plenty of proof that without some kind of rules and guidelines most societies degenerate into anarchy.

Broccoli

I don't blame you Walker... I am offended that I was called a troll. I am offended that you responded... I am offended that your offended.... GET OVER IT! lmao

SL belongs to the Lindens... This is not a country, you have no rights. They can do with it as they please and make whatever rules they want.

Well said.

And the businesses that suffer because of those who leave who don't engage in any adult activities, you think that's good too I suppose?

It seems that SL has become a haven for people without morals as of late. Nice to see the Lindens are now fixing that issue.

Recent court cases would suggest otherwise.

I didn't say not have rules. I am simply more accepting of my fellow man/woman.

I am all for rules. Rules that keep crap like child porn out of my second life. Rules that keep (unsuccessfully) griefers off my doorstep. I've lived my life with rules all around me, and I know they can be very important in maintaining order and discipline. But I am not suggesting people compromise who they want to be either, so long as they are following within the rules. What VooDoo is saying is railing against certain people who have broken no rules, but are morally objectable in VooDoo's eyes.

I have morals, I even have standards. I live my life by the golden rule, as it were.

You know what, nevermind. =)

"morally objectable in VooDoo's eyes."

Half the crap the Lindens are going after there is laws against in rea life! So how do you figure they are only mine?

... except that it doesn't matter what Voodoo, you, I or the man in the moon think; ultimately, Linden Lab receive the abuse reports and act on them as per the guidelines they have.

The only difference is whether we report things that we feel are against the rules or not. If we see something, and don't, then you're as good as participating in 'it' yourself.

And before you say "it's none of your business", if you see someone lying on the side of the road in a pool of blood, do you stop or drive on by because whatever happened isn't anything to do with you either?

Of course, there are going to be griefers using this as an excuse for vigilanteism... but then again, that's been happening for a long time before this blog post.

I'm not going to go out searching for things, but if I am in a PG zone and I see something listed that clearly breaks the rules, why shouldn't I report it?

Broccoli

It's not illegal to perform acts of consensual BDSM in RL. It's not illegal to dress up in an animal costume and have sex in RL. It's not illegal to be a Gorean in RL. It's not illegal to roleplay "rape" in RL either, so long as it's consensual. It's not illegal to do a lot of things sexually, in RL.

As an SL pacifist I have an issue with the portrayal of warfare and weapons in SL. I would be happy to see LL start cleaning up the protrayal of combat or criminal violence within SL, exceptin the special reserved areas.

Broken I will fight the point with you but its like talking to a brick wall. There is nothing normal about somebody getting raped in role play or otherwise. Its sick... And to think that people like you think its normal says alot for where we as a human race are heading.

As for what SL really is these days... I think this pole from another thread says it all...

SL Sex Addict 24 7.16%
Frequently have SL sex 119 35.52%
Rarely have SL sex 78 23.28%
Never have SL sex 114 34.03%

At this point it does not matter... SL is going to cleanup the mess its let be created at last. So say what you will...

Don't be silly - guns are family-friendly.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ordinal/526073151/

I doubt it.


Again, I defy your definition of the word normal. If you are normal, then I am glad to be abnormal.

They're not going to do anything about people having SL sex. You're starting to really clutch for straws. The clean up you're envisaging isn't going to happen.

I agree with you 100% on child porn, I agree with you 100% about rape photos, I don't agree with you on furries or roleplaying, they aren't illegal activities.

I was actually being slightly tongue-in-cheek about my position on weapons in SL but I don't like to see people carrying guns, even if they are costume jewellery.

My point is that, while certain illegal or distasteful things have no place in SL, almost anything anyone does in SL is likely to be disapproved of by someone. E.g.

Dealing in land for profit.
RLs posing as different gender or race in SL
RLs coming into SL as their real selves
Furries
Sex
Camping chairs
Casinos
Ad lots (most people probably hate those!)

I could go on......

Voodoo

You need to step out of hysterical mode and listen to what people are saying. I think most people abhor paedophiles and age play is a concern. I don't do age play, or rp rape or rp gor or BDSM, nor am I a furry, nor gay.

What I am is a normal woman, who has been with her SL partner exclusively since August 2004. We do what normal couples do and have sex.

BUT if other people want to do what I listed in my first paragraph, it is entirely their choice.

I don't understand why you think you have the right to force your somewhat sterile and repressed beliefs onto other people in SL.

She makes a good point. Society isn't outraged enough to outlaw these things, so why should they be outlawed in an adults-only virtual world? Why aren't you campaigning as vociferously to outlaw these things in the real world, where they will do REAL harm to people, if what you say is true?

Again, Broccolli, you misunderstand me.

What you quoted me on had nothing to do with the Lindens or this issue that's going on in SL. I was speaking generally about real life and what scares me in real life. If I was unclear, sorry.

And I agree, VooDoo, the Lindens have every right to do what they want. It's their ball, they can pick it up and go home anytime.

And Broccolli, I agree with you when you say

However, that's not what I'm talking about.

What I'm talking about is that just like without rules, there's anarchy. However with too many restricting rules, especially when people can judge others in pure anger and hatred, you get a dicitatorship. Is that what you are defending?

There's a balance. (Let me clarify - I am not talking about the Lindens or SL - I'm speaking in general now) Just as child porno has to stop because it's bad, the other side of the coin is no better - the restriction of ideas, creativity and fantasies.

There is tolerance. There are rules.

We don't have to go to one extreme to stop another.

And sorry VooDoo, I don't mean to offend or insult, but they way you are throwing out judgements, you seem to be leaning toward the other extreme.

Do you want the moral police to walk around and give instant judgement to others in real life? Maybe you want to build such a thing in SL? You can in SL. You can explore your fantasies

See? Fantasy works both ways.

Voodoo, as I mentioned in my post I do not find paedophilia and rape to be even remotely acceptable - they are abhorent abuse without question. You have NO right to accuse me of condoning such action and I would thank you not to make such further accusations.

As I said in my post, if you would have read it properly, I am not "into" any of the activities being discussed here, nor do I condone all of them, but I respect the right for people to roleplay in RL and SL between consenting adults.

Frankly I am disgusted by your apparent narrowmindedness and displays of anger towards those whom you it appears that you are unable to comprehend.

You missed the point Ciaran. It seems most people in SL have one thing on their mind...

Here is a thought... Step away from the computer and get a real life date!

Well, we were treated to a Michael Savage quote earlier.

I feel sympathy for those who walk around in life only able to see one side of the coin for it is a very sad existance that they lead...