Second Life the new haven for music piracy?

As a legal online music store in real world and on second life I find it very disturbing to see that a lot of pirates are opening music shops in second life that distribute music wich they don't own the rights to. What are the lindens going to do about this as illegal downloads is a big issue in the USA?

In what way are they distributing this music?

The CD made from ten second clips have been around at least 4 years.

For the streaming media, isn't all that SL does is pass an url?

Not a thing. Did you expect more?

It will need to be aware folks like you to Abuse Report them individually.

If you are referring to the low quality 9.9 second clips strung together by a script with very noticeable gaps inbetween the clips, then no i'm not concerned at all. I much prefer to listen to my much higher quality collection of music on my computer.

I am referring to vendors that allow you to download mp3's to your harddisk. I have talked to some of the owners and they really don't know how music sales are handeld.

I think most of them don't even know that they are pirates. Most of them don't know if the artist is signed or not or if the artists use creative commons or stuf like that. Some sell DJ mixes but also DJ Mixes are subject to copyrights.

Well i'm not one of the big companies but that is not how the big companies will do it They just take the whole platform not the individual owners

I have never seen these vendors before. I'm assuming these vendors give a link to an external site where you then download the music to your computer from that site correct? if this is the case, it really isn't LL's issue. I guess the copyright owners could try to file a DMCA complaint with LL.

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But I also think this would be an issue for the host that is providing the music for download. LL would not be the host for the illegal file sharing.

Yes the music files come from servers outside SL but the transaction itself is done in second life as SL allows you to pay for pirated music.

The only time I've ever seen something like this was at a live music gig (where else ) where you could pay the musician's tip board and were then given a code to use to download the track from a website.
To me it seems that in that case the only thing you'd be doing would be paying the musician a hefty tip and then downloading music you have paid for from the internet.
Never seen dedicated vendors seperate from live gigs though.

if the "piracy" is happening IN sl itself then you may have a cause, since the vendor is only providing a "link" to an outside source, you cannot claim that SL is allowing it.

I'm not talking about gigs or artists selling their own music. I'm talking about vendors advertising CD's and allowing you to pay in L$ for downloads. It's fairly new I guess as ive seen them appear only the last few months.

I suppose that people could be using SL as a payment mechanism rather than bother setting up credit card systems etc. Probably safer for customers generally. I've never seen any, but mind you, I don't get out much.

It sounds as if ARing it and/or filing DMCA requests would be the thing to do. Certainly not posting about it on the forums!

provide me a link or landmark in world to substantiate your claim please.

The money flow is in L$ so no way for LL to plead not guilty

Well no, it's not that simple. In what way do LL have responsibility for this? It may be the case, under some weird US law, that they do, but it has to be proved - and if they've not been informed of it occurring anyway, it would be very unlikely that they could be held responsible. LL don't monitor every transaction in L$ and what it is for - that would be absolutely impossible.

Going after LL for this is like charging Ford Motor Company because a bank robber drove a Taurus as a getaway car.

SL is not the culprit - merely the means by which the pirates are operating. Since the actually piracy is happening on other servers, LL has absolutely no liability in this case.

I will only provide you a landmark for one of the shops I have talked to and wich the owner of it has taken the music offline as he is now trying to get he proper liscences and paperwork http://slurl.com/secondlife/Portugal/205/58/28

Do note that this person doesn't want to do illegal practices so do not harras this person

I don't want to be like the RIAA because i know from experience the music industry is very hard to understand and a lot of paperwork needs to be done to be legal, wich I guess most people or not aware about.

Well I think you are mistaking in this as the US gov forced russia to stop allofmp3 with big threats in the same league as with the casino ban on sl

my my my arent we the hypocrite?
you post in here that there is a vendor sellin music "illegally" then you backtrack with an answer like this? if you are not willing to provide proof of said piracy, then don't waste forum space with unsubstantiated claims. kudos to the gentleman for goin the legal route, but ti will be alarmists like you who will drive those like him out of buisness.

However, allofmp3.com was set up specifically to transmit files in violation of DMCA.

SL is a platform, where the piracy is NOT taking place. You may as well sue paypal because you got gypped buying Shatner's Toupee on Ebay and it was wooden.

As i said i'm noticing a trend and ask if SL is becoming a haven of music piracy. Linking to pirated music is also illegal. I don't know if you are familiar with all the efforts that are taken to halt pirated music by the US gov. Bittorent and a lot of other P2P stuff don't have pirated music on servers and only provide links to pirated music. Still those sites are targetted. Links and payments are on servers in SF wich is illegal.

In that case you would contact the platform wich is eBay Just like here the platform is SL

nope. She's right. It's entirely different for LL to allow Linden transactions without really substantiating what those transactions are for. The case you are referencing, along with the others that have made the news involve the companies that allow the actual download of music. In this case, the owners and operators of the websites that allow the download could have some legal problems, but LL is an entirely separate entity. Look at it this way - if you bought some cocaine from a drug dealer and used a check (ok, I know, just go with the analogy, ok?) then you and the drug dealer have broken the law, but the bank that cashes the check has not. It's a legitimate check from you to the dealer. It doesn't matter what it's for - all the bank has to be concerned about is whether it's a legit draft.

Well it's illegal business so if they don't get legal yes that is my goal indeed.