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aEoLuS Waves
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03-28-2006 07:38
Almost 24 hours later and its good to see that the bigest part (so far) of the minority that voted is against av child porn. I want to thank al the ppl that send me IM's with your support. I know its difficult to stand up in public with ppl jumping on your back, and its ok if you just want to stay in the background, but with you behind me I will continu till we have a Lindenlab statement that we al understand. there is some kinda answer that looks very promising from the Lindens (from Torley Linden). /139/97/96554/1.htmlNow we still have to be patience and wait untill Lindenlab answers the question if they consider "two adults having porn as/with Child AV's" as "child pornography". ( /139/32/96572/1.html) Anyway, It was good reading al your comments and statements. Thank you for the support, Sincerely aEoLuS Waves
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TacoTacoBurrito11ONE Queso
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03-28-2006 07:50
el oh el
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Cocoanut Cookie
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03-28-2006 07:54
Aeolus, the majority said they were "against child porn." They did not say they believed AV child porn should be forbidden by LL. Two different things.
coco
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Armandi Goodliffe
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03-28-2006 07:55
My loaded question came out the way I wanted too!
Anyway, you all have yet to anwswer a key question, that is how something like this could be enforcabled without Linden Labs or others spying on adults in their homes and being the bedroom police. After all, the group that votes here also stated they don't what LL being big brother.
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Memir Quinn
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03-28-2006 07:56
And the beat goes on.... troll on brave soul!
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Nolan Nash
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03-28-2006 07:58
From: Armandi Goodliffe My loaded question came out the way I wanted too!
Anyway, you all have yet to anwswer a key question, that is how something like this could be enforcabled without Linden Labs or others spying on people in their homes and being the bedroom police. Even then, it's nigh on impossible. Disregarding the fact that it would be extremely silly for them to do it in the first place, that is. They are already lacking in personnel resources, so having Linden Vice running about would be a HUGE farking waste. Omg, there's some teenagers in my neighborhood! Chances are ONE of them is a criminal. Ban teenagers! PROFILING IS BAD, PEOPLE!
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aEoLuS Waves
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03-28-2006 07:58
From: Cocoanut Cookie Aeolus, the majority said they were "against child porn." They did not say they believed AV child porn should be forbidden by LL. Two different things.
coco Oh yes sorry my fault...Will clear that before that will lead to somewhere..
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Armandi Goodliffe
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03-28-2006 08:03
From: Nolan Nash Omg, there's some teenagers in my neighborhood! Chances are ONE of them is a criminal. Ban teenagers!
Yes, 911?. . . there are these people .. . in a shack . . . and I think they might be doing drugs! And why do you think that, mam? Well, they are those kind of people!
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Mulch Ennui
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03-28-2006 08:05
From: Cocoanut Cookie Aeolus, the majority said they were "against child porn." They did not say they believed AV child porn should be forbidden by LL. Two different things.
coco Aeolus, you're my buddy but I had to chose for even though I am against it because your position makes thoughts a crime I have dreamt of various methods to torture, kill, dismember and hide the body of an ex boss I never did, because it was in my thoughts only if you go after someone thinking reprehensible thoughts, how far behind will you be in offending someone with your thoughts? don't go near it. it is sick, it prolly means there are issues, but it is legal, it is within TOS, and most important, protecting thier rights to whatever "expression" they have ensures my expression is safe I don't think anyone wants a child hurt, and I don't think most would encourage adult age play, but it is what it is, adults pretending to be something they aren't I play a troll on wow, but I never hack off humans heads in rl. it is make believe it is roleplaying, someone pretending to be something they are not sorry to take the opposite side bro, but I can't protect the rights of an imaginary pixelated child at the risk of thought police I wish your poll had more options, as those of us fighting for free expression among adults now seem to support child porn. Your phrasing really was biased, and the result you got is with the majority knowing full well their names would be listed. I imagine the results would suprise you if you phrased your question in an unbiased way and made voting anonymous. good luck on your crusade
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Memir Quinn
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03-28-2006 08:06
From: aEoLuS Waves Oh yes sorry my fault...Will clear that before that will lead to somewhere.. Only place this will lead is either this thread being locked, you suspended for trolling, or the lot of it completely forgotten when the next omgzwtfbbq!!!111! thread du jour comes along. Good luck with that.
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Yiffy Yaffle
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03-28-2006 08:14
if i see 1 more topic like this i'm going to purposely make a child DOG avatar in a thong, and chase you with it holding a flaming babydoll head on a stick! i swear...
PS. With big breastisisisiss.
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Zapoteth Zaius
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03-28-2006 08:17
Moved to Notices and Well Wishes 
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03-28-2006 08:19
From: Yiffy Yaffle if i see 1 more topic like this i'm going to purposely make a child DOG avatar in a thong, and chase you with it holding a flaming babydoll head on a stick! i swear...
PS. With big breastisisisiss. Just grab a Stewie avatar, and you & I can go play red rocket 
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Armandi Goodliffe
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03-28-2006 08:20
From: Zapoteth Zaius Moved to Notices and Well Wishes  I find that comic for some reason.
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Zapoteth Zaius
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03-28-2006 08:25
From: Armandi Goodliffe I find that comic for some reason. Its a nice change to people coming after me with torches and pitch forks 
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Mulch Ennui
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03-28-2006 08:25
From: Zapoteth Zaius Moved to Notices and Well Wishes  geez, now there is no reason to use this thread
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aEoLuS Waves
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03-28-2006 08:33
From: Mulch Ennui Aeolus, you're my buddy but I had to chose for even though I am against it because your position makes thoughts a crime
I have dreamt of various methods to torture, kill, dismember and hide the body of an ex boss
I never did, because it was in my thoughts only
if you go after someone thinking reprehensible thoughts, how far behind will you be in offending someone with your thoughts?
don't go near it. it is sick, it prolly means there are issues, but it is legal, it is within TOS, and most important, protecting thier rights to whatever "expression" they have ensures my expression is safe
I don't think anyone wants a child hurt, and I don't think most would encourage adult age play, but it is what it is, adults pretending to be something they aren't
I play a troll on wow, but I never hack off humans heads in rl. it is make believe
it is roleplaying, someone pretending to be something they are not
sorry to take the opposite side bro, but I can't protect the rights of an imaginary pixelated child at the risk of thought police
I wish your poll had more options, as those of us fighting for free expression among adults now seem to support child porn. Your phrasing really was biased, and the result you got is with the majority knowing full well their names would be listed. I imagine the results would suprise you if you phrased your question in an unbiased way and made voting anonymous.
good luck on your crusade heya bro, Yeah I know its pretending, Role playing, just a game. But its also AV Child Porn (Oh no not again!). Crusade? Nah (Must say that I begin to feel like Don Quijote and fighting some mighty Windmils) but I still think that Lindenlab should stand up and say what they think this time. Did I realy stepped on somebody toes for standing against AV child porn or are some ppl just as light headed as I am (or bored?). Darn I just feel sorry for the AV kid that is abused for porn by adults! Anyway you are very right about the thought police. I think too that ppl should stay out of my brain and let me think what I want where ever I want. Type and read you later!
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Mulch Ennui
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03-28-2006 08:39
From: aEoLuS Waves Did I realy stepped on somebody toes for standing against AV child porn or are some ppl just as light headed as I am (or bored?).
its just we have been over this so many times, it has become something of a joke on forums (AV age play that is) and it always ends with the majority agreeing that it is too slippery of a slope to selectivly censor and this topic is like a beehive, the more you rattle it, the louder it buzzes the conversation ALWAYS follows the same pattern, read the old threads it is legal in the US, LL is standing by thier ideals and not interfering with protected speech. I applaud that position even if I don't agree with the outcome It won't be changing anytime soon so just don't look at it and hope that the same mechanism that prevents me from mutaliting my ex boss keeps people doing thier age play with ONLY consenting adults
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Vivianne Draper
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03-28-2006 08:41
dang yet another thread about this? how many do we need?
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aEoLuS Waves
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More threads More threads!
03-28-2006 08:46
From: Vivianne Draper dang yet another thread about this? how many do we need? Dont think we realy need more... Most things are said and done.
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aEoLuS Waves
Koffie?
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03-28-2006 08:49
From: Mulch Ennui and hope that the same mechanism that prevents me from mutaliting my ex boss keeps people doing thier age play with ONLY consenting adults Thinking about mutalating ex boss' You sure there is a law against that?
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Levi Glass
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03-28-2006 08:59
From: Cocoanut Cookie Aeolus, the majority said they were "against child porn." They did not say they believed AV child porn should be forbidden by LL. Two different things.
coco I'll say it. I support him/her stand and think AV child porn should be forbidden by LL and banned by law. Sorry if that ruins anyone's fun but sometimes you just gotta look at an issue and say, "what would a sane person think about this?"
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Kennet Agnon
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03-28-2006 09:00
From: aEoLuS Waves heya bro,
edited out a lot of junk here*****
Darn I just feel sorry for the AV kid that is abused for porn by adults!
edited out more junk******
Type and read you later! Bro you need to take a CHILL PILL fast, its an AV an Avatar a collection of pixels on a screen made by an adult, some one ove rthe age of consent. there is NO child There never HAS been a child there is nothing to get hurt/abused etc apart from your own sense of moral's and teh fact you are running around dictating and ramming your own ideals of behaviour down other peoples throats your teh giulty party sorry but in this case even though you signed that you had a phisical age of 18 plus i dont think you have the maturity to be able to tell the difference between fact and fiction if this bothers you so much do us all a favour pick up the phone and dial 911/999 (or what ever the police phone number is in your country) and report this crime guess what will happen, cops will listen, take your name and address and after you have hung up, they will file your complaint next to the latest i saw elvis report.
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Yiffy Yaffle
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03-28-2006 09:03
or just leave.
seriusly if you dont like what you see dont look at it. Their are no children in SL legally. So its not a big deal. if they are really children, they will be found out about and baned. leave the age players alone. i'm almost 2000 years old in character but i still will take anyones side who is mis understood and being insulted for a lifestyle cuz someone dont aprove of it.
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aEoLuS Waves
Koffie?
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03-28-2006 09:12
Hi there Kennet, Thanx for showing me your point of view. Please read this thread /139/c9/96283/1.htmlNow what if it turns out that we in SL are nothing more then loads of visual depictions?
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