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Levi Glass
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03-28-2006 09:34
Dont think we realy need more... Most things are said and done. Actually, I suggest the topic stay alive until some sanity comes of it. If communications of intolerance can be banned, so can communications of the promotion of child abuse. It really isn't rocket science. |
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Mulch Ennui
15 Minutes are Over
Join date: 22 May 2005
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03-28-2006 09:37
Actually, I suggest the topic stay alive until some sanity comes of it. If communications of intolerance can be banned, so can communications of the promotion of child abuse. It really isn't rocket science. start another thread in general!!! that always solves problems around here, but you're new, I didn't expect you to know that yet _____________________
I have of late--but wherefore I know not--lost all my mirth, that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory, this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o'erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours.
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Nolan Nash
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03-28-2006 09:38
I'll say it. I support him/her stand and think AV child porn should be forbidden by LL and banned by law. Sorry if that ruins anyone's fun but sometimes you just gotta look at an issue and say, "what would a sane person think about this?" You can call it child porn all you like, the Protect Act does not agree with you. It's no more child porn than shooting someone in Jessie is assault with a deadly weapon. _____________________
“Time's fun when you're having flies.” ~Kermit
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Corvus Drake
Bedroom Spelunker
Join date: 12 Feb 2006
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03-28-2006 09:39
I'll say it. I support him/her stand and think AV child porn should be forbidden by LL and banned by law. Sorry if that ruins anyone's fun but sometimes you just gotta look at an issue and say, "what would a sane person think about this?" One of the freedoms offered me under the USA Bill of Rights is essentially that I have a right to be completely insane and not be disturbed of it. |
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Corvus Drake
Bedroom Spelunker
Join date: 12 Feb 2006
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03-28-2006 09:44
Hi there Kennet, Thanx for showing me your point of view. Please read this thread /139/c9/96283/1.html Now what if it turns out that we in SL are nothing more then loads of visual depictions? This response from LL supports the pro-ageplayers. It's saying that if you think real child porn is occuring, report it to LL. If you see something you consider abuse, file an abuse report. Considering 90% of ARs are tripe, you'll likely get a response of "The sim was listed as an ageplay sim, it's your own fault for being there". |
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Levi Glass
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Join date: 22 Feb 2006
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03-28-2006 09:55
You can call it child porn all you like, the Protect Act does not agree with you. It's no more child porn than shooting someone in Jessie is assault with a deadly weapon. The Protect Act did try to address this and failed. Perhaps new laws have to be written to keep up with emerging technologies. There were no laws against any child porn 100 years ago... someone had to say, "whoa, look what people are doing with those newfangled camera things!" |
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prak Curie
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03-28-2006 15:34
Sorry if that ruins anyone's fun but sometimes you just gotta look at an issue and say, "what would a sane person think about this?" Additionally, legislation may not be premised on the desirability of controlling one’s private thoughts, and the government may not prohibit speech because it increases the chance that an illegal act will be committed at some time in the future. When it comes to images that do not involve real children, the First Amendment protects speech which is neither obscene nor the product of sexual abuse. The Court emphasized, "The right to think is the beginning of freedom, and speech must be protected from the government because speech is the beginning of thought." _____________________
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Levi Glass
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Join date: 22 Feb 2006
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03-28-2006 16:08
the First Amendment protects speech which is neither obscene nor the product of sexual abuse. Neither obscene nor... However, if it is deemed "obscene" it is no longer protected by the First Amendment. The question will come down to whether a jury will consider images of 2 grown men avatars double-teaming an infant avatar as "obscene." Perhaps what will happen is the images will eventually become so realistic that a video shown in a courtroom will cause half the jury to vomit and the other half to pass out and they won't be able to continue resulting in a mistrial.  |
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Mulch Ennui
15 Minutes are Over
Join date: 22 May 2005
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03-28-2006 16:14
The question will come down to whether a jury will consider images of 2 grown men avatars double-teaming an infant avatar as "obscene." Perhaps what will happen is the images will eventually become so realistic that a video shown in a courtroom will cause half the jury to vomit and the other half to pass out and they won't be able to continue resulting in a mistrial. yeah, and showing such images will surely conjure Beelzebub the dark lord on the spot such courtroom theatrics will ensure a conviction for making cartoons bump uglies *right* _____________________
I have of late--but wherefore I know not--lost all my mirth, that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory, this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o'erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours.
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Mulch Ennui
15 Minutes are Over
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03-28-2006 16:22
Neither obscene nor... However, if it is deemed "obscene" it is no longer protected by the First Amendment. I am afraid if you are waiting for the US government to convict someone of obscenity for rendered artificial images, you will probably not live that long consider Rob Black, the lowest rung of the porn ladder (a guy Larry Flynt is offended by) He was prosecuted for obscenity for his Extreme Video/Elegant Angel which featured such fun things as raping a wheelchair bound woman, simulated underage sex, fellatio until vomit, the consumption of various bodily fluids, as well as some other acts not suitable to print that filthy freak disgusts everyone, and the government has yet to secure a conviction on anything so the might of the federal courts coming down on animated age play is somewhat below nonexsistent but, good luck with that... _____________________
I have of late--but wherefore I know not--lost all my mirth, that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory, this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o'erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours.
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Levi Glass
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Join date: 22 Feb 2006
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03-28-2006 16:41
I am afraid if you are waiting for the US government to convict someone of obscenity for rendered artificial images, you will probably not live that long consider Rob Black, the lowest rung of the porn ladder (a guy Larry Flynt is offended by) He was prosecuted for obscenity for his Extreme Video/Elegant Angel which featured such fun things as raping a wheelchair bound woman, simulated underage sex, fellatio until vomit, the consumption of various bodily fluids, as well as some other acts not suitable to print that filthy freak disgusts everyone, and the government has yet to secure a conviction on anything so the might of the federal courts coming down on animated age play is somewhat below nonexsistent but, good luck with that... Like I've said all along, I could be off base here.  |
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aEoLuS Waves
Koffie?
Join date: 10 Jun 2005
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Thing is...
03-28-2006 22:25
I am afraid if you are waiting for the US government to convict someone of obscenity for rendered artificial images, you will probably not live that long consider Rob Black, the lowest rung of the porn ladder (a guy Larry Flynt is offended by) He was prosecuted for obscenity for his Extreme Video/Elegant Angel which featured such fun things as raping a wheelchair bound woman, simulated underage sex, fellatio until vomit, the consumption of various bodily fluids, as well as some other acts not suitable to print that filthy freak disgusts everyone, and the government has yet to secure a conviction on anything so the might of the federal courts coming down on animated age play is somewhat below nonexsistent but, good luck with that... Thing is you can still see that these are adults doing their thing (I hope). Now lets read what the Lindens bring us (still not sure if Lindenlab brings us this or just someone that has a Linden name (sweets anyone?). /139/c9/96283/1.html Now what if it turns out that we in SL are nothing more then loads of visual depictions? I am not a law man (hehehe) and mabey I am dead wrong with this. What you think? |
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prak Curie
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Join date: 4 Jun 2004
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03-28-2006 23:03
What you think? I think beating off to a dead horse is wrong. _____________________
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