In this thread:
/108/80/96276/1.html
(Whats it is about you should read yourself because its so easy to slipp into the he said she said thing). Personaly I think the thread is all about AV Child abuse/ AV Child porn.
Torley Linden clarifies the LL position about it.
bella, I hope this will help clarify LL's position for you:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin Linden
This is clearly a highly charged issue, and not easy to respond to in simple terms. There are basically two instances here that need to be addressed:
First. We have evidence of child pornography or abuse that involves children in the real world (e.g. uploaded images or exploitation of a minor). In this case we will act to protect the child and notify the authorities. The individuals involved, if it's proven the exploitation occurred, will be banned from SL.
Second. There are people in SL who are role-playing as children engaged in sexual activities. There are no real children involved. While not a Terms of Service violation (no illegal activity) it could be argued that this behavior is broadly offensive and therefore violates the community standards. "Content, communication, or behavior which involves intense strong language or expletives, nudity or sexual content, the depiction of sex or strong violence, or anything else broadly offensive must be contained within private land in areas rated Mature (M)." If this activity were in public areas (as was the case with the anime images) it would be viewed as being broadly offensive, and therefore unacceptable. What consenting adults do in private, however distasteful others may find it, is allowed under these standards.
If you see behavior that you think falls into the first instance, please contact Linden Lab immediately. In the second case, please file an abuse report, and include the chat logs and/or screenshots you are concerned with.
Source link to: /120/d3/33941/9.html#post360087
Later in the thread Torey Linden writes:
Well, there is something I call the "false gun analog"... if someone sees a gun, they likely expect it to behave like one, even if it has a totally different purpose and is scripted to be worn like a hat spouting flowers or somesuch thing. (I know, too much like a pseudo-Videodrome!) Some call for more fantasy in SL and wonder why we have terrain or water at all--but it is a clear dichotomy, one of the wondrous contradictions that I embrace.
Avatars are a powerful form of self-expression. Before Second Life, really, my whole love for watermelon was quite confined and isolated.
Now this rule can make it look ok the have AV child porn as long as you do it private:
What consenting adults do in private, however distasteful others may find it, is allowed under these standards.
And I think that Torley' second post makes it look ok too (watermelons).
Now best for you is to read all the threads and posts again to see it all in the right positions. There are many more (for and anti) threads about it here:
/108/1.html
Now I think/hope that you as Lindens all know what we mean with AV Child Porn.
Could you please explain your standpoint for us all about this?
* Can we have/make AV Child porn in the privacy of a SL home?
* Can we have/make AV Child porn on a Private Sim?
* Is AV child porn no AV Child Porn because adults are doing the actions?
* Are you as Lindens 100% against AV Child porn in SL? (If not please explain why..)
* Are you going to make a TOS rule for this?
These simple questions will clarify a lot for me (and by the suport I get ingame a lot of other ppl too).
waiting for your response,
Sincerely
aEoLuS Waves.
>> added because I could not post <<
Ty for your response,
I admit I went a bit over the edge but we are talking about Child Porn here.
You tell me this: "Rather than do you a disservice by making a generic YES/NO blanket statement--for we are not robots--"
So thats a blanket statement? You saing this to me as a Linden?
About my yes or no poll
Do you realy think that it is possible to nuanace that?
Can you realy say: "I am agianst child porn but its ok to to do it a tiny bit"?
I think not. I posted that poll on purpose with yes or no. And realy we are not talking about prim hair but about Child Porn.
And I am sorry that your post was "in relation about the creative spirit in SL."
I really thought the thread was about Child porn and or abuse. So sorry if I misunderstood you. That was realy wrong for me. I hope you exept my apolagie. I feel silly and stupid now.
I never noticed the post about "age play" (/139/c9/96283/1.html), thats not so difficult because "age play" isnt Child porn and seeing the pile of threads it has no use to go trough it all. But I am glad you pointed me there.
Again sorry that I got your post about the community spirit mixed up in the Child porn thread. Again, my sincere apolagies. Stupid of me for not reading it good.
I am glad the Lindens finaly made a point.
But only one thing remains..
To repeat once again: If you are aware of child pornography in Second Life, you are encouraged to contact Linden Lab immediately; we will then act to notify the appropriate authorities. If you wish to report a violation of Community Standards that does not involve illegal activity, you are encouraged to file an abuse report; such a matter would be handled in accordance with normal abuse report procedures.
If two adults have porn as/with Child AV's is that considered as "child pornography" by Lindenlabs?
Ty for your answer so far.
Sincerely
aEoLuS Waves.
