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SuezanneC Baskerville
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04-24-2006 18:24
There ia an object located at Versu Richelieu 113, 169, 21 set to the SLPD - Training group, owned by Anarchy Division.
It is a "Net", of the sort people trap other people in, stuck in the ground.
Perhaps an SLPD member could perform their policely duty and see to the removal of this unwanted object?
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Peter Nelson
holds your death in hand.
Join date: 25 Nov 2005
Posts: 89
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04-25-2006 10:32
From: SuezanneC Baskerville There ia an object located at Versu Richelieu 113, 169, 21 set to the SLPD - Training group, owned by Anarchy Division. It is a "Net", of the sort people trap other people in, stuck in the ground. Perhaps an SLPD member could perform their policely duty and see to the removal of this unwanted object? This is the same sim as the one our base is in, unfortunately we can't remove it though. You'll have to ask the parcel owner or a Linden about its removal. From: The guy who is currently being extremely annoying... Quote: Originally Posted by Peter NelsonWhat does that article on Police Corruption have to do with your argument? Let me clear this up... I said "instead" in that AR line, that was a mistake, plz take that out. We always AR people, Quote: Originally Posted by Peter NelsonThat is true, we have encountered people who don't want to play along. In that case, we report them You threaten people who do not want to play with you with an abuse report. You attempt to derive benefit from selective enforcement. I do not edit quotes to change their meaning. Quote: Originally Posted by Peter NelsonYou going to cry about how a lot of new people just skip reading it? Well, then that's their fault, not ours. There was recently this guy who must have skipped reading the forum rules because he posted the name of someone he was accusing of being a griefer. Clearly it was entirely his own fault for not reading and understanding all of the rules. He was sort of new and inexperienced so instead of wasting the time of someone else and reporting his post I informed him of his mistake and he has not repeated it since. He has not been very appreciative though; perhaps it would be better had I dressed up in some uniform, built a cage and threatened to called over a resmod if he did not dance on top of it for my amusement. WHEN WILL YOU GET THIS STRAIGHT??? WE ABUSE REPORT NO MATTER WHAT YOU RETARD... my god, I've said that about 10 times and you STILL don't understand!!!! They only go to jail if they want to! From: Peter Nelson (original text) That is true, we have encountered people who don't want to play along. In that case, we report them, sometimes call over a Linden if the situation is serious, then leave immediately so the suspect doesn't get mad.
From: prak Curie Quote: Originally Posted by Peter Nelson That is true, we have encountered people who don't want to play along. In that case, we report them [...] I do not edit quotes to change their meaning.
It seems like you just did. All I meant by that line is: "That is true, we have encountered people who don't want to play along. In that case, we report them, sometimes call over a Linden if the situation is serious, then leave immediately so the suspect doesn't get mad." We don't screw around, we don't push them around, we don't tell them to go into a cruiser and drive away to the station, nothin. We just abuse report, call over a Linden if needed, then leave. NO BS. In the case of their consenting to us sending them to jail, we AR them, call over a Linden if needed, we tell them to get into the cruiser, we drive to the station, we get out, then put them in jail, wait an hour, let them go. ITS NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND, DAMMIT! Oh, I'm sorry that he gave his consent for me to put it on the forums. Do you want me to stop putting your name in the quotes? I'd be more than happy to. Is it me or does it look like you are being a jerk and mocking the SLPD? I'll have you know that we do no threatening, we don't use cages (except for jailing with consent) and we don't exploit the authority that we don't have. - Peter Nelson, SLPD Chief of Police
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
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04-25-2006 10:43
I think it would be kick ass if you used this as your forum avatar....
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
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04-25-2006 11:14
From: someone Originally posted by SuzanneC Baskerville: There ia an object located at Versu Richelieu 113, 169, 21 set to the SLPD - Training group, owned by Anarchy Division.
It is a "Net", of the sort people trap other people in, stuck in the ground.
Perhaps an SLPD member could perform their policely duty and see to the removal of this unwanted object? From: someone Originally posted by Peter Nelson: WE DON'T DO ANYTHING EXCEPT SURROUND THE DUDE SO HE CAN'T GO ANYWHERE. Ok.. let it sink in.. don't do anything except surround (which is harrassment by the way, barring his travel save for teleport and considered greifing by LL) and you need to use capturing nets. BUSTED.
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
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04-25-2006 11:21
From: someone This is the Higher Authority group for the SLPD. We are higher in rank than everyone except the Chief of Police. This group is the best of the best in the SLPD. Please do not IM Peter Nelson or anyone else to join, you must pass through a different division to reach this group. You will be invited if the Chief feels that you have done a good job. Higher Authority members get to drive the SLPD Defender, a combat-level version of the SLPD Interceptor. I thought you didn't do anything but surround now? Why combat enabled vehicles? From: someone The Special Weapons And Tactics, or S.W.A.T. team, of the SLPD. You MUST pass through training to join. SWAT is the second most fun division of the SLPD. Here, we use special equipment to take down griefers fast. Also look for our newly-deployed SWAT van, very cool I might add  . You meant 'surround the greifers real fast' right? Sorry bub. Your own groups expose your words as lies.
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prak Curie
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Join date: 4 Jun 2004
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04-25-2006 12:35
From: Peter Nelson WHEN WILL YOU GET THIS STRAIGHT??? WE ABUSE REPORT NO MATTER WHAT [...] I've said that about 10 times and you STILL don't understand!!!! They only go to jail if they want to! You have also twice suggested that you wield the abuse report as a stick to get people to play along with you. So while you may repeatedly insist that I have you all wrong I think it is far more likely you are just trying to cover up what has been pointed out to you as clearly abusive behavior. I do not trust you. From: Peter Nelson It seems like you just did. All I meant by that line is: "That is true, we have encountered people who don't want to play along. In that case, we report them, sometimes call over a Linden if the situation is serious, then leave immediately so the suspect doesn't get mad." Why bother mentioning reporting at all unless there are cases where it is not done? Your quote implies that there are cases where you do not report them; when they play along. Quid pro quo. Perhaps you intended to say something along the lines of "in that case, we leave having done all we could by having already reported them," but you did not. Furthermore, you have clearly stated in a previous post that "[a griefer] may spend time in [your] jail instead" of being abuse reported. Your claim to always abuse report rings hallow. From: Peter Nelson Oh, I'm sorry that he gave his consent for me to put it on the forums. My mistake, I apologize.
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Jack Harker
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Join date: 4 May 2005
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04-25-2006 12:53
From: Vivianne Draper but why is the rum gone? Don't be discouraged, even in the absence of rum, there's still the lash and sodomy.
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Peter Nelson
holds your death in hand.
Join date: 25 Nov 2005
Posts: 89
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04-25-2006 22:00
From: Jonas Pierterson Ok.. let it sink in.. don't do anything except surround (which is harrassment by the way, barring his travel save for teleport and considered greifing by LL) and you need to use capturing nets. BUSTED.
[/i] Please read the chat log above, we only surround the guy and WATCH THEM.. we don't cage them or physically stop them from moving.
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Peter Nelson
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Join date: 25 Nov 2005
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04-25-2006 22:04
From: prak Curie You have also twice suggested that you wield the abuse report as a stick to get people to play along with you. So while you may repeatedly insist that I have you all wrong I think it is far more likely you are just trying to cover up what has been pointed out to you as clearly abusive behavior. I do not trust you. Why bother mentioning reporting at all unless there are cases where it is not done? Your quote implies that there are cases where you do not report them; when they play along. Quid pro quo. Perhaps you intended to say something along the lines of "in that case, we leave having done all we could by having already reported them," but you did not. Furthermore, you have clearly stated in a previous post that "[a griefer] may spend time in [your] jail instead" of being abuse reported. Your claim to always abuse report rings hallow. My mistake, I apologize. When did I suggest that without correcting myself? I'm not going to tell you again about AR. IF YOU READ THE ****ING POSTS ABOVE, YOU WILL SEE THAT I CORRECTED MYSELF EVERY TIME I SLIPPED UP AND SAID "INSTEAD"!!! GODDAMN IT STOP THIS NONSENSE AND CLOSE THE DAMN THREAD ALREADY! (yes I know that's considered shouting but I'm really pissed that I have to come here twice a day to repeat the same answer over and over again!) IF YOU DON'T LIKE US, THEN DON'T LIKE US! I CAN'T HELP IT! If you do like us, then cheers to you. But really people, I can't change your viewpoint. So if you hate us, then go back to learning how to build in sandbox island and leave me alone for pete's sakes!!!! And please... SOMEONE CLOSE THIS THREAD! IT WAS JUST A SIMPLE REMINDER THAT ILL BE AWAY FOR A WHILE THAT TURNED INTO A 80-POST FLAMING TOPIC WITH OVER 1,500 VIEWS! THATS ABOUT 1 OUT OF EVERY 100 SL PEOPLE!
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Blueman Steele
Registered User
Join date: 28 Dec 2004
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04-25-2006 23:43
From: Peter Nelson P.S.: Even though I am OFFLINE, that doesn't mean that the SLPD is to be inactive. If I come back and I find the SLPD to be inactive, I will personally find each one of you and kick your derry-air (excuse my atrocious spelling).
Uhm..3 members left including me. A officer was picked by default (me). What has been thrust upon me? I just liked the title!! Should I recruit? EDIT: my bad just so happened I was in a group by the same-ish name! Carry on!
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
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04-26-2006 05:11
Peter. swat teams 'taking down' griefers. 'combat enabled' vehicles. You say that you only surround, the evidence says otherwise. Wonder what I'll believe?
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Peter Nelson
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Join date: 25 Nov 2005
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04-26-2006 09:25
OK... EVERYONE READ THIS POST... IT CONTAINS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT INFORMATION! Since I am sick and tired of this BS, I have decided to start the SLPD over again... with NO weapons and NO griefing. If you all have any comments about it, please post them below. I won't reply to anything NOT related to the "new" SLPD. If you post something good, then I'll look into it and see if I can fit it in. But I am open to any and all suggestions. Also, please check out our website at www.freewebs.com/slpd and, if you are an SLPD member, join the forums. Forums are unavailable to non-members, sorry.
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Peter Nelson
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Join date: 25 Nov 2005
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04-26-2006 09:33
From: Jonas Pierterson Peter. swat teams 'taking down' griefers. 'combat enabled' vehicles. You say that you only surround, the evidence says otherwise. Wonder what I'll believe? What evidence? "Taking down" does not mean "shooting", it means "getting them out of SL". Jonas, our SWAT team changed to defensive tactics, no griefing. Combat-enabled vehicles, those are out as of now. The combat-enabled Defender, though, was only a test model of a non-grief combat system. (If someone was shot at they encounter a "Do you want to start a battle with: [name of shooter]? (Yes/No)", then if they say No then the bullets do not take effect, if they say Yes then the bullets cause the person's "health" to deplete, then if they "die" then they "lose" the battle. It was originally to be used for training sessions, but we just decided that it would be stupid so we just went ahead and made it for regular use; it will not work with vehicles not enabled with it, so the person being shot at can't join a battle, so the system is essentially useless except during training.) Blah.
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
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04-26-2006 09:46
Sequels rock. 
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
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04-26-2006 09:49
Funny how 'taking down' reads 'remove/bring low by force.'
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Good freebies here and here I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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04-26-2006 10:28
From: Peter Nelson OK... EVERYONE READ THIS POST... No. But I will reply to bump this hilarious thread! 
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prak Curie
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04-26-2006 10:35
From: Peter Nelson I have decided to start the SLPD over again... with NO weapons and NO griefing. So you did not use weapons without permission or grief before but now you are /really/ not going to? Of course you will still be the leader and the group will still be filled by people that want to play cops and 'protect' people from griefers in SecondLife; meet the new SLPD, same as the old SLPD.
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Peter Nelson
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Join date: 25 Nov 2005
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04-26-2006 13:05
From: prak Curie So you did not use weapons without permission or grief before but now you are /really/ not going to? Of course you will still be the leader and the group will still be filled by people that want to play cops and 'protect' people from griefers in SecondLife; meet the new SLPD, same as the old SLPD. Excuse my French... Prak, shut the fuck up. We are "/really/" not going to this time because last time people got the impression that we were, but we wern't. So therefore, I want to make it clear that this time (and last time) there is (was) no griefing done by us. NOTICE HOW WERE STARTING ALL OVER AGAIN... That means that anyone I don't know has never used weapons in SLPD is out. Gone. Zip. Bye bye. I will only accept suggestions from now on. 1.) We did, and still do, no griefing. 2.) We are starting over again with new recruits. 3.) We report all griefers. 4.) They have the option to go to jail, but they STILL get ARed. 5.) We are completely new now. Same rules as we used to use apply, but now we *strictly* enforce the "no griefing" and "always report" rules. There. No more questions, suggestions only please. - Peter Nelson, SLPD Chief of Police
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prak Curie
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04-26-2006 15:04
From: Peter Nelson NOTICE HOW WERE STARTING ALL OVER AGAIN... That means that anyone I don't know has never used weapons in SLPD is out. /108/1c/74038/1.html#post769299/108/1c/74038/1.html#post769299 From: RipperT Gumshoe I am RipperT Gumshoe, an officer of Sandbox Security. Peter Nelson took sandbox security way too serisouly. It is just for fun. The only enforcment we do at the sandbox is if anyone breaks the rules, we tell them once not to do it, and thats it. There is no Grav gun, and Peter Nelson was the one that made the object to push people away. Please don't judge SBS when Peter Nelson was the man infact that made this up.
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Peter Nelson
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04-26-2006 15:57
Sandbox Security went down around December 1, 2005. That's almost 6 months from now. And anyways, when I joined they were in the sandboxes caging people like mad... is this griefing? I suppose so, so don't listen to RipperT, hes a load of s*** (and anyways, he was temp banned for a while for using the cagers...) Seriously, prak, listen to me... GO TO HELL! IF YOU HAVE NOTHING HELPFUL TO SAY, DON'T SAY ANYTHING!
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nimrod Yaffle
Cavemen are people too...
Join date: 15 Nov 2004
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04-26-2006 17:05
From: Peter Nelson Sandbox Security went down around December 1, 2005. That's almost 6 months from now. And anyways, when I joined they were in the sandboxes caging people like mad... is this griefing? I suppose so, so don't listen to RipperT, hes a load of s*** (and anyways, he was temp banned for a while for using the cagers...) Seriously, prak, listen to me... GO TO HELL! IF YOU HAVE NOTHING HELPFUL TO SAY, DON'T SAY ANYTHING! Oh... My... goodness... A smart thing to do would be to just not come back to this thread if they are making you mad, or stop replying. You know the whole 'Don't feed the trolls' thing. 
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Peter Nelson
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04-26-2006 21:17
From: nimrod Yaffle Oh... My... goodness... A smart thing to do would be to just not come back to this thread if they are making you mad, or stop replying. You know the whole 'Don't feed the trolls' thing.  The problem though, nimrod, is that if I don't come back then they will consider that I gave up and that I was lying all along, then they will harass me in-world. And anyways, I'm trying to answer questions by people other than prak and Jonas. And I need suggestions.
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prak Curie
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Join date: 4 Jun 2004
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04-26-2006 22:00
From: Peter Nelson And I need suggestions. If you really want to cut back on griefing teach people how to protect themselves: sit down, mute audio, turn off particles and ignore people who annoy you. Doing that will, in the vast majority of cases, end it in five to ten minutes. No need for a lot of hysterics, the Lindens, or you. No need for a uniform, weapons, a jail or even teleporting into the sim. They all just serve to encourage a griefer and prolong the whole situation. If there is a need to call in a Linden or file an abuse report it should never be mentioned, doing so will also drag things out. Both should be treated as an absolute last resort anyway so it should rarely, if ever, come up. Do not try to play cop to Second Life unless you are roleplaying with people who want to play criminals. Even the best player run government organizations are not widely accepted and they do nothing to stop or even discourage griefing.
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prak Curie
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04-26-2006 22:06
From: nimrod Yaffle A smart thing to do would be to just not come back to this thread if they are making you mad, or stop replying. You know the whole 'Don't feed the trolls' thing. So few people seem able to take good advice. I have often wondered why that is.
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Cybin Monde
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04-26-2006 22:52
this thread has seen more than it's fair share of personal attack type of comments and is being closed for further Linden Review. Torley Linden writes: This thread remains closed; not appropriate for the SL Forums. Please see the Guidelines:
Private discussions – the forums are a public area for the Second Life community’s use. Individuals who have a dispute with each other have other channels of communication to discuss their differences or communicate – private messaging, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life. Also, threads that are addressed to a single individual or group are inappropriate on the forums, this includes slander or "naming names" in a posts title, starting polls about a particular resident or group, etc.
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