Notice to All SLPD Members

Reporting is not griefing; surrounding the dude, without getting permission first, is. You do not require a team of people to file an abuse report. Furthermore, abuse reporting someone does not then give you a free hand to do whatever you wish with them. It is not unusual for someone feeling griefed to end up doing something that gets them in more trouble than the original 'griefer.'


Well, griefing alone is never nearly as much fun as doing it with a group. (You also might want to remove that name. That sort of things tends to be frowned on on the forums.)

/Who/ are you getting permission from before you do anything other than watch them? If it is anyone other than the person you are watch or a Linden you are getting it from the wrong person. If you are actually getting it from the target first, excellent, but then you are just roleplaying and you might want to reconsider filing an abuse report.

It is not wrong to call a Linden if you are feeling harassed but it is often overkill when, most times, you can easily just sit on something and ignore them until they get bored and wander off. There is no reason for your group to ever get involved; extra people abuse reporting just makes extra work for the Lindens and if they are hotheads it likely more people will be griefing.

Ahh, good to see that the SLPD is acting just like the RL PD. Why do we need a "police department" exactly?

The more abuse reports, the more likely action will be taken. Trust me, I have experimented with this. See the bottom of the post for an explination of "surrounding the dude".


SL was made for different reasons... some to have fun, some to make a living, etc... SLPD is no different. We love to have fun, some people like to be in to get a small taste of the police world (I have gotten some reports from SLPD retirees that they actually joined a RL PD because they loved the law enforcement business so much... he is reccommending all of his police buddies to join... therefore more members for SL... is that stressful on Lindens? And he owes it all to SLPD. Therefore, SLPD actually gave someone a real life job, of which he makes a living.) Anyways, we only get permission to do "anything else" by the suspect, never anyone else (so that we can keep a good standing by means of the TOS). Even though after this point it is considered RPing, before it nothing was RP. Is griefing roleplaying? I suppose so, in your point of view. But abuse reporting? I don't think so. Sorry, you lose.


You're really getting on my nerves. Maybe we should ask a Linden about what they like better: more paperwork to deal with, less griefers to waste time on OR less paperwork to deal with, but more time wasted on reprimanding griefers while they are trying to play SL. Hmm? If I was a Linden, I would rather get a bit more paperwork so that I can prove that the suspect is a griefer, then reprimand him/her. Simple. I would not like to have to get called over repeatedly just because some guy is rezzing slot machines like hell in a sandbox, or is bombing a sim. I would rather spend time with friends, socialize... etc. But I don't know how Lindens spend their time in SL, so please don't quote me on that.

Below is a little sample of a routine call:
IM: Victim: Hello?
IM: Me: Hi, what do you need?
IM: Victim: I have someone shooting people on my land and I would like you to come over and see if you can stop him.
IM: Me: OK, do you have any idea who it is?
IM: Victim: Yes, it's [name].
IM: Me: Thank you. Does he have anyone helping him?
IM: Victim: Yeah, he is TPing his friends. Please help, the sim is starting to crash!
IM: Me: OK, I will send in my SWAT team. Can you give me a TP?
IM: Victim: OK, hold on...
Victim sends a TP.
I TP to the scene.
Me: Is this your land?
Victim: Yes
I TP the SWAT team over.
Me: OK, we have a griefer named [name] TPing buddies and shooting. I need a full out scan along with a profile check of everyone in the sim. If any weapons are out, get the names.
SWAT Team: (everyone) k
Me: And, as always, no retaliation. Use the radios from here on out. Keep your cover, we don't want him to know we're here until I give the signal.
Radio: SWAT Team: lets go!
Me: OK [victim name], everything should be controlled soon. Stay here, I'll be back.
I fly away and open my minimap.
Radio: Me: Anything yet?
Radio: SWAT Team lists some names.
Radio: Me: OK, keep searching.
Radio: Me: Any updates?
Radio: SWAT Team: we got them all in view, at least 1 swat per person, there are a total of 4 people. permission to end stealth?
Radio: Me: I will shout the signal, then you come out. If any shooting occurs toward you do an AR and tell me.
Radio: SWAT Team: all right
Me shouts: ATTENTION: Your griefing actions have been reported and you are now being watched. Any more shooting will result in a Linden appearance. Stop griefing immediately and everything will be good.
[suspect name] shouts: oh no, the s*** police!
Me shouts: One more degrading word and a Linden will be appearing above you.
[suspect name] shouts: if youve got us in sight then prove it!
Radio: Me: Everyone show themselves to the victim in sight.
SWAT Team reveals themselves.
[suspect name] shouts: OK OK you got us, dont shoot!
Radio: Me: NO SHOOTING!
I fly back to the victim.
Victim: Nice work.
Me: It's not over yet. Follow me.
I fly over to a clock tower.
Radio: Me: Everyone escort your suspect to the clock tower.
Everyone arrives to the clock tower and tells their story.
Me: OK, well, I'm sorry, but we'll have to AR you. If you would like, you may spend time in our jail instead.
[suspect name]: nah i dont have time 4 jail
Me: All right, please hold on...
Radio: Me: Report everyone (except [victim name]).
Everyone reports the suspects.
Me: OK, you're free to go. Please don't let this happen again.
[suspect name]: all right. come on guys, lets go back to the base
Suspects leave.
Victim: Wow, that was easy...
Me: Nah, it's nothing. OK well we've got to go, play it safe.
Victim: I will, officers
Me: Cya!
Radio: Me: Everyone back to the station.
Everyone arrives at the station.
Me: OK, that wasn't so bad now, was it?
SWAT Team: nah
Me: I need [one of the SWAT members] to file seperate reports for me on each suspect, I will put them in the archives. OK?
[SWAT member]: Yes, sir.
Me: Chill out, this isn't boot camp...
SWAT member makes a report, I put it in our archives.
Me: Good work, men. Everyone is dismissed.
Everyone leaves.
I send the reports to a CSI detective, he cleans it up and reports to Lindens. CASE CLOSED.

Hopefully that will clear up what we do.

- Peter Nelson, SLPD Chief of Police

We have addressed this problem with the Lindens, and we simply tell everyone we have contact with about SLPD that we have absolutely NO affiliation with LL, we are simply a RP group that tries to actually do a little help to the community by finding griefers.


That is true, we have encountered people who don't want to play along. In that case, we report them, sometimes call over a Linden if the situation is serious, then leave immediately so the suspect doesn't get mad.


Thank you for your post, Gretchen. You are probably one of the few people that actually want to input a reasonable idea with information backing it up. I have seen many, many people while I have been in the force, and some, as you said, disagree with our meaning. Unfortunately, I can't help them. But, for example, my favorite band is System of a Down. I was curious and looked it up, there happened to be a fan club for it. I joined it, we chatted a bit. Now, if someone hated SOAD, they could disagree with their purpose too. But, the founder can't really change his opinion, as long as the guy hates SOAD there's nothing the founder can do. Same with SLPD: if someone hates SLPD, I can't do anything about it! They just have to live with us.

- Peter Nelson, SLPD Chief of Police

Peter Dear rolepalying is fine, but you soundlike HUGE wannabe, don't let it go to your head.

Peter Dear, role playing is one thing, sounds like your a wannabe and trying to take it to SL, GL with that

No I don't



My response: Go f*** yourselves fakeys

Due to the fact that the post makes no sense, it is completely pointless.
Wannabe? Of what? Wannabe SLPD police chief? Sorry, your post is a bit late... already chief of police.
If you are saying i am a wannabe police officer in RL, then that is true. But, considering that I am going to apply to be one soon, I guess that is kind of stupid to call me a police guy wannabe. So there. Ha.

Anything else?

Is that a threat?



All right. (goes to go f*** himself) Haha, just kidding. If you think youre gonna get us to leave, you thought wrong.

You lose! Good day sir!

I think they are providing a great service and should be honored for the heros that they are. If you guys would quit giving them a hard time perhaps they would be able to recover me stinkin' bottle o rum.

Keep up the good work!

And hey.......
Let's be careful out there!

Comedy gold.

btw, how come you guys haven't gotten back to me about being double charged on my tier? What's the point of having police if you can't protect the people, man?

It does not seems like you deal with griefers; it seems like you deal with relatively new people who are not clear on the rules and think they are just having fun in a game. Then it seems like you threaten to abuse report them unless they play with you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_corruption

You act as if you are even competition. O.o


edit: I'm the sanctimonious asshole of SL So leave my title alone!


Really, its embarassing.


Nope. More like a 'I will abuse report any greifing or threats you make to people not clear on the rules.' Take it as you will.

Ooo you know what? I think Ill keep an eye out for these kinds of false threats and deals, and report them as impersonating administration staff.

Can we PLEASE stay on topic? Here goes: where the hell is that rum I keep hearing about?

They refused to get the rum, they're too busy drinking coffee, and eating doughnuts

I'm not going to delve into the back-and-forth, but I wanted to clarify something that was brought to our attention in this thread. There have been allegations that the SLPD is harrassing people for money. After further investigation, we've discovered that the real perpetrators are a group calling themselves the SLDP, or SL Dyslexic Police. We haven't uncovered much information about them, but their group tags are crafted to look exactly like ours, and they've been using their group tags to try to coerce payment from people.

If you see this behaviour, please report it to the Lindens, and let us know where and when you saw it. This behaviour is not coming from us, it's coming from a group trying to look like us.

I was solicited by the SLDPBA to donate for their charity ball. I donated $20,000L thinking it was you guys.

They promised me rum back.

I took the rum 33 posts back, if you are wanting any you better come get some, its going fast...

/me points and blows whistle.

Over here!!!

Hey I'm dyslexic

Meanies!

I think you misunderstood me. I don't mean that you contact them to grief. But that they grief in the hope you(slpd) show up and try to arrest him. As you said yourself it can be fun. Have you ever had something like that happen, any repeat offenders that enjoyed it a bit to much?

Btw, i think this thread is good. You have gotten the oppertunity to explain more about what you are doing and might have changed some people minds to be more tolerant towards you.

Dude, the primary role of the police is to preserve the state, and to protect property and capital from the proletariat. He's in character.

All its done so far, Frans, is make me -less- tolerant of their greifing.

What? I'm starting to get confuzzled. Who's griefing? I thought I already made it clear that what we're doing is not griefing.




Ah, I see, you're saying that they grief in hopes of us showing up. As far as I know, we only have had one repeat offender in our files. That was the guy I explained earlier that had fun, and thought that it was a realistic experience. To the best of my knowledge, nothing like that has happened again since then. But it may have happened, as you know, we are not in full force yet; we don't respond to every single griefer in SL. That's kind of hard right now.

And I give in, you're right. I suppose this thread is good because of the chance for explaining ourselves in a place other than the limited group description (and so that I don't have to waste time saying it to everybody who asks in SL IM.)

Any more questions?



What does that article on Police Corruption have to do with your argument?
Let me clear this up... I said "instead" in that AR line, that was a mistake, plz take that out. We always AR people, just some griefers feel better about themselves (and feel as if it was a more realistic experience) if they go to jail for an hour or two. Anyways, the visitors help us in cracking the case, so to speak... we keep records of the griefers friends, family, accomplices, etc. so that in the event of them griefing we can link it back to the original (or vice versa).
If you remember, the first time you log on you are shown an exact up-to-date copy of the TOS and the Big 6. In both of these it clearly states the definition of griefing and the fact that it is not allowed and it is strictly enforced by Lindens (and, partially, SLPD). Therefore, new people are given a fair warning. Touché. What next? You going to cry about how a lot of new people just skip reading it? Well, then that's their fault, not ours.

- Peter Nelson, SLPD Chief of Police

You threaten people who do not want to play with you with an abuse report. You attempt to derive benefit from selective enforcement.

I do not edit quotes to change their meaning.


There was recently this guy who must have skipped reading the forum rules because he posted the name of someone he was accusing of being a griefer. Clearly it was entirely his own fault for not reading and understanding all of the rules. He was sort of new and inexperienced so instead of wasting the time of someone else and reporting his post I informed him of his mistake and he has not repeated it since.

He has not been very appreciative though; perhaps it would be better had I dressed up in some uniform, built a cage and threatened to called over a resmod if he did not dance on top of it for my amusement.