Exiled from N'burg Indefinitely

Even though Ulrika and I have made our peace and I have no ill will toward her I do have one comment that comes to mind after reading this:

"Oh how the worm turns"

Now carry on.

Show me where in the Constitution it says that the SC provides the only valid interpretation of the Constitution.

These are the only "powers" vested in the SC

Section 8 - Powers of the SC

Members of the Philosophic branch are not bound by a strict literal interpretation of the Bill of Rights, Founding Philosophy, Constitution, or the strict adherence to legal precedence. Rather members of the SC are required to draw upon their individual fields of expertise to solve complex social issues.

In regards to the Representative branch:

The Philosophic branch may veto or rewrite and resubmit a bill or constitutional amendment if it is in violation of any of the founding documents.
The SC can seek impeachment of members of the Representative branch for violating the constitution or acting illegally.
In regards to the Artisanal branch:

The SC can seek impeachment of members of the Artisanal branch for violating the constitution or acting illegally.


If the Constitution charges both the RA and the AC with the ability to either appoint or impeach members of the SC based on their ability to uphold the Constitution, it follows that the Constitution holds that the SC doesn't have sole discretion in the interpreting of the Constitution.

The 3 Governmental branches of Neualtenburg are not analogous to the 3 branches of the USA.

We have no "Executive" Branch.

I give you full permission to publicly enjoy this without any threat of retribution.

~Ulrika~

Hey, you are really getting good at interpreting the Constitution!

It's a damn shame that Kevn is just as clueless about N'burg's governmental system as he is about everything else he goes on about.

~Ulrika~

Somebody has to.

The hatchet is burried and I have no intent on trying to find the damn thing hon.

I hope you are doing well after so long not hearing anything from or about you. I hope that you are enjoying that baby as much as I think you are.

OMGZASPEROIDS!!!

I just realized I may derail this thread with civility and nicities... shame on me... shame on me... hehe

I was never here... you never saw me.

Where the hell have you been?

Lurking... hehe

"The Scientific Council (SC) is a self-selected meritocracy. Its
governmental role is to interpret and enforce the constitution. "

Which other branch is vested with this power?

If the branch isn't vested with a power, it doesn't assume it has it.

You were the one earlier who insisted the SC can't be impeached because they can veto anything, and they alone define the founding documents.

I guess you disagree with your prior opinion.

Nothing wrong with being satisfied that you did the right thing. But there is a difference between that and boasting about depriving a human being of his liberty. Yes, it was a good thing that you put this person away from potential victims. But equally, I think many people would find it an unpleasant responsibility to be so directly involved in punishing another person.

I think a Christian most certainly should be - not happy, but satisfied - at having done the right thing. I am surprised to see a Christian boasting about it, though, I have to say.

Both the AC and the RA are vested. Do you not read my posts?
It's in the Constitution.

This is where you err.

I think you could very well be misreading things, making erroneous assumptions based on those misreadings, and then defending those erroneous assumptions despite attempts to correct them. I call this the "Kevn Klein" experience.

~Ulrika~

I beg to differ, and I stand by what I said.

This *IS* only a game -- in the case of N'berg, perhaps, an "experiment" -- and to claim that the pretend results of a pretend hearing in a pretend country in a pretend world are cruel and unusal is ridiculous and an insult to authentic human suffering.

At most, the OP is cranky over not getting her way. But, then again, she is the one who announced to one and all that she was leaving N'berg and SL *permanently*... The kitchen should already be empty.

This is a weird thread.

Excuse me for asking Ulrika, but weren't you the founder of Neualtenburg?

Of course she will claim she was due to it being "her" project proposal... and then deny it in the next breath saying it evolved into a collaborative endeavor over time.

The reality is that this entire issue is no longer a "Notice, Well Wish" or anything remotely other than a drahma thread - something she has engaged in for years here.

The entire project and its "dirty laundry" politics pretty clearly provides support to the argument that some people just like to "dick around" with other people's "games" and fun - whatever that might be. It should be fairly clear who is messing around with other people's fun here.

Death to the drahma queen.

It is a strange thread, isn't it?

To answer your question, yes, I'm one of the two founding members. Kendra Bancroft is the other.

~Ulrika~

Only the SC is vested with the power to interpret the constitution.

incorrect.

I am one of the founders and it is a collaborative project. Those two statements are not mutually exclusive although it's worth nothing that they are the source of some of the conflict concerning intellectual property in the city at the moment. Progress has been made though, the city has partially agreed that they were in violation of my Creative Commons Copyright and removed most of my copyrighted material from their website. So that is a definite positive.

This absolutely is politics, which is not surprising given that N'burg is a governmental sim. This public forum is a safe place where I can discuss the fact that I was denied a trial as guaranteed by the constitution and then given an excessive and unusual sentence nonetheless. Further I can publicize illegal behavior in the hopes that public shame will motivate them to behave ethically.

I am already dead. After I settle my IP issues with the city, I will rest in peace.

~Ulrika~

If only.

And thanks for proving my point once again with your excessivley verbose pile of prose.

Looking through your posts, I see no point that would have been proven simply by the style of my writing. Why so crabby, hun?

~Ulrika~