Exiled from N'burg Indefinitely
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
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04-26-2006 01:38
In a quasi-legal charade executed to achieve the a priori goal of exiling a troublesome dissident, Ulrika Zugzwang was banned indefinitely from Neualtenburg. The city's judicial branch (SC) was the executioner for the vengeful and angry bureaucracy -- an oligarchy comprised of long-time N'burg members that run the sim by direct democracy behind a facade of evolved governmental structure and protocol. Read about it here. Of note is that the precedent contains a punishment that is quite possibly cruel and most definitely unusual. I am banned from citizenship for the entirety of the head of the judicial branch's term, a position that has no term limit, thus making the ban indefinite. Does the punishment fit the crime or was the hearing crafted to exile a troublesome individual for the duration of the current power structure? Also interesting is how the court failed to adequately reconcile the conflict between Linden "law" and city law and used this ambiguity to selectively apply jurisdiction and thus culpability. Paraphrased from the results of the hearing: From: someone Under Linden "law", as group founder and moderator, she has the power to establish her own moderating procedures. ... As a non-citizen she deleted a post ... Thus she acted by having a power she was not supposed to have. These contradictory statements are resolved, of course, by the selective and complete supersession of Linden "law" with city law to my detriment. However, this same conflict between Linden "law" and city law is resolved differently here: From: someone It was found that the SC was not negligent ... but it is also clear that they should have requested the removal of both Ulrika Zugzwang and Kendra Bancroft as moderators at the first opportunity. The fact that the judicial branch (SC) cannot remove moderators as per Linden policy is used as a mitigating factor in regards to negligence, despite the statement that it was in fact responsible. So, Linden "law" is superseded in one instance yet remains a mitigating factor in another.  Don't think that's the end of it though. There's enough spite left that the transgressions are being sent to the Lindens in the form of a formal abuse report. That's right. Deny Linden "law" during the hearing and then recognize Linden "law" for a second round of punishment.  ~Ulrika~
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Torley Linden
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04-26-2006 01:45
Moved to Notices and Well Wishes.
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vivi Odets
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04-26-2006 02:12
Just curious... since, based on your signature you have left SL permanently, why does it matter if you are banned from this project or not? Seems like a moot point...
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Melina Loonie
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04-26-2006 02:27
Good point ... maybe this could just be called "terror"?
Mel
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Desmond Shang
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04-26-2006 03:35
The Independent State of Caledon offers you citizenship and asylum. We will have some some ships in the harbour of Port Caledon, our fourth sim which should be opening in a few weeks. Perhaps you would like to plot your return to Neualtenburg from the captain's quarters of one of our gunboats? A quite serious Desmond. 
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Kendra Bancroft
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04-26-2006 04:47
The Barony of Altenburg offers you citizenship, Ulrika.
You may feel free to move into any building there for 1L a year.
I offer this in protest of the actions of the SC and their judicial witch-hunt.
I also plan on erecting a statue of our City's founder in my small Barony.
Altenburg will always be considered Zugzwang loyalists.
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Jonas Pierterson
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04-26-2006 05:06
From: someone What do you think, fool? (You can vote for more than one.) And this is probably the reason why you may have been exiled.. a horrible attitude towards others. When you ask for an opinion, you don't insult the people you are asking. I'd personally recommend keeping you banned even after their terms now.
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Ordinal Malaprop
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04-26-2006 05:23
Nobody banned Mr T, did they?
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Jonas Pierterson
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04-26-2006 05:27
I pity the fool that tries to ban Mr T!
He was a professional wrestler, Ulrika isn't. Don't do drugs! Drink your milk!
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
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04-26-2006 06:59
From: Jonas Pierterson And this is probably the reason why you may have been exiled.. a horrible attitude towards others. I'm not being rude, I'm sharing in an inside joke. I created a thread months ago, where folks would reply to each other, suffixing each statement with the word "fool". Fool.See how that works? ~Ulrika~
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Jonas Pierterson
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04-26-2006 07:03
OK L) See how it can be an insult to those who aren't in the know, though? Not me personally (I'm usually thick skinned) but many.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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04-26-2006 07:06
From: vivi Odets Just curious... since, based on your signature you have left SL permanently, why does it matter if you are banned from this project or not? Seems like a moot point... It matters that the city's first trial was illegal, in that it violated the constitution by denying the accused a jury, it was inconsistent in that jurisdiction was interpreted inconsistently, and that the punishment was cruel and unusual. It's a frightening precedence for the only user-run government in SL to set. ~Ulrika~
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ZsuZsanna Raven
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04-26-2006 07:06
From: vivi Odets Just curious... since, based on your signature you have left SL permanently, why does it matter if you are banned from this project or not? Seems like a moot point... It's called being a Troll, of which she is very good at from what I have seen...
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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04-26-2006 07:09
Also of interest is that the judicial branch's hearing is in violation of the constitution, which states: From: someone Hearings and trials not involving government officials will be overseen by a single Professor and judgment will be decided by a jury of peers. Because the previous hearing lacked a jury (useful in removing bias) the results of the hearing should be rendered null and void, with a retrial and judgement by a jury of peers to be convened in its stead. Unfortunately this doesn't look like it will be possible, as they've instituted a policy of silence in the forums, refusing to engage in any dialog regarding the trial. ~Ulrika~
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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04-26-2006 07:12
From: Desmond Shang A quite serious Desmond. Actually, I'm quite interested in learning how your system functions. It appears to be growing rapidly, where N'burg's size has remained constant for months. Do you have a website? ~Ulrika~
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Kendra Bancroft
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04-26-2006 07:14
worth reposting here:
With the The Scientific Council of Neualtenburg's Unconstitutional judgement against Ulrika Zugzwang, Expat;
The Barony of Altenburg under the protectorship of Die Altenburg Gruppe and under the leadership of Burgermeister Bancroft announces it's intention to secede from the City/State of Neualtenburg.
All private property of Altenburg remains the private property of Die Altenburg Gruppe, as do the rights to the name Altenburg and any architecture built within the area known as Altenburg or any privately owned property of the Altenburg Gruppe, or Kendra Bancroft.
All municipal builds by Kendra Bancroft built and paid for by the City/State of Neualtenburg remain the property of Neualtenburg.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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04-26-2006 07:14
From: Kendra Bancroft I offer this in protest of the actions of the SC and their judicial witch-hunt. Why thanks.  It's just an absolute shame that their first hearing had to be both illegal and convened with a punishment already in mind. I had such high hopes for the legal system. ~Ulrika~
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Gabe Lippmann
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04-26-2006 07:19
From: Jonas Pierterson OK L) See how it can be an insult to those who aren't in the know, though? Not me personally (I'm usually thick skinned) but many. Give me a break. mohehill ------>>>>>>> MOUNTAIN! YAY! It's like birding or sightseeing, if you don't have adequate knowledge and experience you should get a guide book before screaming all over town that you just saw a Tufted Titmouse in the local park, lest you make a fool of yourself. FYI, I have atopic dermititis and have felt the sting of many a barb for the way my skin looks. It is very offensive to me the way you casually throw around terms such as "thick skinned". Your blatant disregard for my suffering and the suffering of those like me is truly disturbing.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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04-26-2006 07:28
From: Ulrika Zugzwang Actually, I'm quite interested in learning how your system functions. It appears to be growing rapidly, where N'burg's size has remained constant for months. Do you have a website?
~Ulrika~ You wouldn't like it. It's rule by the landed gentry. Which is why I'm gunning for land there...
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Kevn Klein
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04-26-2006 07:41
From: Ulrika Zugzwang It matters that the city's first trial was illegal, in that it violated the constitution by denying the accused a jury, it was inconsistent in that jurisdiction was interpreted inconsistently, and that the punishment was cruel and unusual. It's a frightening precedence for the only user-run government in SL to set.
~Ulrika~ The SC decides what the constitution means. They don't have to interpret it literally. Their ruling is final. But you can campaign to have them all impeached. I doubt it will be effective though. After all, they are protecting N'burg. I'm sure you wouldn't have it any other way.
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Kendra Bancroft
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04-26-2006 07:42
From: Kevn Klein The SC decides what the constitution means. They don't have to interpret it literally. Their ruling is final. But you can campaign to have them all impeached. I doubt it will be effective though. After all, they are protecting N'burg.
I'm sure you wouldn't have it any other way. read my sig.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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04-26-2006 08:02
From: Kendra Bancroft read my sig. Kevn actually has a point. By failing to provide me with a jury, the Dean clearly violated the constitution, which is grounds for an impeachment hearing. The question is, can such a process overcome the underlying oligarchy that exists underneath the facade of government? That is, despite the fact that they are clearly acting in violation of the law and know it, who will censure them if everyone approves of the illegal act? ~Ulrika~
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Kendra Bancroft
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04-26-2006 08:07
From: Ulrika Zugzwang Kevn actually has a point. By failing to provide me with a jury, the Dean clearly violated the constitution, which is grounds for an impeachment hearing. The question is, can such a process overcome the underlying oligarchy that exists underneath the facade of government? That is, despite the fact that they are clearly acting in violation of the law and know it, who will censure them if everyone approves of the illegal act?
~Ulrika~ I don't approve. Altenburg has declared secession from the City/State of Neualtenburg. The barricades go up this evening, and I'm calling all interested partys in joining me for a protest rally this evening beginning at 4pm SLT under the clocktower on the border of Altenburg and Neualtenburg.
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Gabe Lippmann
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04-26-2006 08:08
From: Ulrika Zugzwang who will censure them if everyone approves of the illegal act? Nobody.
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Kevn Klein
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04-26-2006 08:10
From: Kendra Bancroft read my sig. Kenda, you were the one most supportive of maintaining the SC's power to self-interpret the constitution, ignoring the literal understanding of the document. It was I who suggested the SC should be required to follow the intent of the laws and constitution according to the actual words written therein. Maybe now you understand why I was concerned. But now I see the SC can be trusted to do the right thing regardless of the laws and constitution, I have changed my mind, I agree with you. Let's leave the status-quo concerning this issue. It's clear the SC is watching out for N'burg's best interest.
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