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Asha Riel
Registered User
Join date: 26 May 2006
Posts: 49
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05-26-2006 11:07
I have only play for a short time, but I know this. it is wrong to make people pay for things in this game. It is an evil. You not deserve to have pay for imaginary thing. It take no effort to make imagination, and so to demand pay is to be greedy. I say the money be taken away and make so all things made are freely copied by anyone who like it. You know money is root of evil and if money removed from game then evil removed. Only good people left in game, and they make good thing for others to have. This is how it should be. !خدا حافظ
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Derrick Cannoli
Just Somebody
Join date: 4 Sep 2005
Posts: 81
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05-26-2006 11:10
From: Asha Riel I have only play for a short time, but I know this. it is wrong to make people pay for things in this game. It is an evil. You not deserve to have pay for imaginary thing. It take no effort to make imagination, and so to demand pay is to be greedy. I say the money be taken away and make so all things made are freely copied by anyone who like it. You know money is root of evil and if money removed from game then evil removed. Only good people left in game, and they make good thing for others to have. This is how it should be. !خدا حافظ By that thinking all games should be free....after all the stuff in EVERY single game out there is nothing but imagination.
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Asha Riel
Registered User
Join date: 26 May 2006
Posts: 49
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05-26-2006 11:12
From: Derrick Cannoli By that thinking all games should be free....after all the stuff in EVERY single game out there is nothing but imagination. Yes you are correct. All games should be free. Evil to get pay for no effort.
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Rasah Tigereye
"Buckaneer American"
Join date: 30 Nov 2003
Posts: 783
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05-26-2006 11:14
From: Derrick Cannoli By that thinking all games should be free....after all the stuff in EVERY single game out there is nothing but imagination. Games ARE free. Heard of BitTorrent? 
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Frans Charming
You only need one Frans
Join date: 28 Jan 2005
Posts: 1,847
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05-26-2006 11:16
Music, plays, movies, art, are all imagination aswell, and we pay happily for that. Second, it costs time and skill to create, is a other persons time and their skill nothing worth to you?
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Spin Martin
Not to be trifled with.
Join date: 8 Oct 2005
Posts: 31
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05-26-2006 11:19
Hey can you come over to my sims and do a manual inventory count and tell me how many items I have that are named "Object"? It's a lot of work, and I'm not paying for it. Thanks!  PS. I am a smart ass. Thx.
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Musuko Massiel
Registered User
Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 435
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05-26-2006 11:19
"It take no effort to make imagination, and so to demand pay is to be greedy."
It takes work to turn an idea into a presentable form. It even takes work to form an idea from its first gleaning into something magestic and beautiful.
If you are not willing to reward a person for their labour of love, in whatever manner (even a word of praise or a thank you), you do not deserve what they have created for you.
Musuko.
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Asha Riel
Registered User
Join date: 26 May 2006
Posts: 49
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05-26-2006 11:20
From: Frans Charming Music, plays, movies, art, are all imagination aswell, and we pay happily for that. Second, it costs time and skill to create, is a other persons time and their skill nothing worth to you? Art is not game. This game and game is imagination and it evil to make pay for imagination. It take no skill to make imagination, and it fun to imagine. So people alrady rewarded for making thing in game.
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PetGirl Bergman
Fellow Creature:-)
Join date: 16 Feb 2005
Posts: 2,414
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05-26-2006 11:23
I thinks AL things should be for free. I need my sports cars NOW!
/Tina
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Spin Martin
Not to be trifled with.
Join date: 8 Oct 2005
Posts: 31
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05-26-2006 11:26
To start the tangential commentary early in what will surely be a 4000 pages-of-reply thread, should people who make games make money?
Spin
PS. Half the backchannel is crying 'troll' the other half is grabbing popcorn. \m/
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Nicole David
Furniture Queen
Join date: 7 Sep 2005
Posts: 134
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05-26-2006 11:27
From: Asha Riel Yes you are correct. All games should be free. Evil to get pay for no effort. No Effort? I don't think you understand the effort it takes to create content for SL. And as for your statement that is is not art, I beg to differ. The fashion designs, the architecture designs, it's all art. Not everything in SL is original, but a lot is.
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Rasah Tigereye
"Buckaneer American"
Join date: 30 Nov 2003
Posts: 783
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05-26-2006 11:27
From: PetGirl Bergman I thinks AL things should be for free. I need my sports cars NOW!
/Tina I want a S.M.A.R.T. convertible for free! ( www.smart.com)
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Asha Riel
Registered User
Join date: 26 May 2006
Posts: 49
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05-26-2006 11:27
From: Musuko Massiel "It take no effort to make imagination, and so to demand pay is to be greedy." It takes work to turn an idea into a presentable form. It even takes work to form an idea from its first gleaning into something magestic and beautiful. If you are not willing to reward a person for their labour of love, in whatever manner (even a word of praise or a thank you), you do not deserve what they have created for you. Musuko. No! I thank other for sharing imagination. It is asking for money for nothing more than imagination that is evil! When share imagination, you are rewarded in having fun, is what game is to have fun. So make things in this game is reward in by self, and a thank you is to given when shared. Nothing more.
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Derrick Cannoli
Just Somebody
Join date: 4 Sep 2005
Posts: 81
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05-26-2006 11:28
From: Asha Riel Art is not game. This game and game is imagination and it evil to make pay for imagination. It take no skill to make imagination, and it fun to imagine. So people alrady rewarded for making thing in game. NO NO NO, you cant have it both ways....art IS imagination and by your definition should be free. I'm on hold with the Louvre, waiting for them to send me the Mona Lisa
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Frans Charming
You only need one Frans
Join date: 28 Jan 2005
Posts: 1,847
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05-26-2006 11:29
Asha, when i paint, i imagine first then i apply my time and skill to create. When i create in SL i imagine first then i apply my time and skill to create.
You arn't just paying for imagination, i can imagination the most fabulous house, clothing or car. That does not make it come to excist, even in a virtual world. People have to apply their time and skill to create.
Also some people have more time and are more skilled then others, this defenitly shows, if it was only imagination every one would be able to deliver the same quality, but they don't. Second, these things are created to entertain you, do you really think people should entertain you for free?
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Ketra Saarinen
Whitelock 'Yena-gal
Join date: 1 Feb 2006
Posts: 676
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05-26-2006 11:30
From: Asha Riel Art is not game. This game and game is imagination and it evil to make pay for imagination. It take no skill to make imagination, and it fun to imagine. So people alrady rewarded for making thing in game. If it takes no effort and no skill then I want you to make some things for me in game that I will not pay for. I'd like a 3 story house with bathrooms and kitches A Subaru STI that I can drive Also, I wouldn't mind a furry Lynx avatar. Oh, and I need a custom script made for my motorcycles. IM me and I'll tell you what features I want. Since there's no skill or effort involved, I expect these to be of top quality. And this is completely free, right? For the hours upon hours you will spend making this stuff, I can expect you to just give it to me with full permissions, right? IM me when my stuff is ready. And I'm sure there will be others who will want your services too.
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Asha Riel
Registered User
Join date: 26 May 2006
Posts: 49
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05-26-2006 11:30
From: Derrick Cannoli NO NO NO, you cant have it both ways....art IS imagination and by your definition should be free. I'm on hold with the Louvre, waiting for them to send me the Mona Lisa Manhoose! Art is real and only come from imagination as place it start. If to pay for music is to pay for what is recorded on or skill used in live playing of instrument or use of voice. Not for imagination. This game, all is imagination.
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Spin Martin
Not to be trifled with.
Join date: 8 Oct 2005
Posts: 31
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05-26-2006 11:31
From: Asha Riel No! I thank other for sharing imagination. It is asking for money for nothing more than imagination that is evil! So to go back to the art thang: um, movies are imagination. And people are involved to do things there: work hardware, write things, dress up people, oh and perform. People write code. Build things. Spend time. (Time, btw, is oft considered money). If I don't see a value in what someone does for me, I will not pay them. Spin
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
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05-26-2006 11:33
From: Asha Riel I have only play for a short time, but I know this. it is wrong to make people pay for things in this game. It is an evil. You not deserve to have pay for imaginary thing. It take no effort to make imagination, and so to demand pay is to be greedy. I say the money be taken away and make so all things made are freely copied by anyone who like it. You know money is root of evil and if money removed from game then evil removed. Only good people left in game, and they make good thing for others to have. This is how it should be.
!خدا حافظ Get rid of all of your evil money NOW!!! Feel free to send me all of your $L and IM me so as I can send you my Papal address. I don't want you to have any evil in your real life either. 
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Frans Charming
You only need one Frans
Join date: 28 Jan 2005
Posts: 1,847
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05-26-2006 11:34
Wooha, i hadn't even seen the no effort comment, are you crazy? Asha, are you a troll?
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Musuko Massiel
Registered User
Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 435
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05-26-2006 11:35
"Art is not game."
Anything can be art if it has beauty and meaning conveyed between the creator and the observer.
"It is asking for money for nothing more than imagination that is evil!"
I do not sell imagination. I sell creations. You do not create something with imagination alone. I am imagining a giant crystal cathedral right now. I need to do a lot more to actually make it a reality...even just an image of it...and it is that which requires and deserves financial compensation; sculpters need clay, painters need paint, and they all need food to eat. None of that comes from thin air.
Musuko.
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Spin Martin
Not to be trifled with.
Join date: 8 Oct 2005
Posts: 31
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05-26-2006 11:35
From: Asha Riel Manhoose! Art is real and only come from imagination as place it start. If to pay for music is to pay for what is recorded on or skill used in live playing of instrument or use of voice. Not for imagination. This game, all is imagination. Well thank goodness we have REAL PEOPLE playing REAL MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS piped into this imaginary fakey fake place. They have tip jars, and ergo, by your logic, we should pay them. So, tip your performers! Asha emands it! Spin
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Dhalia Unsung
confused not conditioned
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 297
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05-26-2006 11:36
I completely agree with the OP. LL im waiting for my free island sim. Please have it ready soon. Also i need a designer out there to make me this http://www.canmag.com/images/front/movies2005b/hitchhike24.jpg which ive been wanting forever. But I dont want to pay for it. Also I'd like some of that new flexihair! Since you can just pop in into my inventory I dont expect to be able to pay for delivery charges either.
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
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05-26-2006 11:37
From: Asha Riel Not for imagination. This game, all is imagination. You can't be serious here. Imagination means nothing without implementation. Scripting, building, marketing, and texturing are all required to make content work in SL. All of these things require skill.
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
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05-26-2006 11:39
From: Frans Charming Asha, are you a troll? That or totally clueless.
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