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Purple Cube of Death in the New World

Buster Peel
Spat the dummy.
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
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04-12-2005 22:03
There has been a lot of confusion about what a "cube of death" is. I think this thread may help clear it up:

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Prokofy Neva
Virtualtor
Join date: 28 Sep 2004
Posts: 3,698
04-13-2005 07:07
From: someone
Nolan, I understand 100% what you're saying. But the poison ivy doesn't go away if you ignore it. It's just a matter of personal preference that I do ignore it, and refuse to be baited into a flame war, no matter how egregious the character assasination gets at times.


Um, no poison ivy here, but a couple of blackmailers perhaps? You've been AR'd for violating the TOS.

From: someone
I do appreciate the time and effort you have put into puncturing the pr balloon, Nolan. And Weedy and Tang and all the others for whom I've developed a great fondness due to reading their spirited posts.


That's helped fuel their anger with false reports and malice.

From: someone
Being internally disengaged from the drama keeps me from getting mad. It allows me to see the drama as dramatic conflict -- a necessary component for the entertainment value in works of fiction, biography and other non-fiction as well. The dramatic conflict adds value to the game experience by entertaining paying subscribers.


What is a "story" for you might be a real virtuality for others. Try to be aware of that and more considerate.

From: someone
The only place where 'entertainment' is the wrong context is where newbies are involved.

Most experienced players give the same standard advice to new players. How to use Ctrl H and why you don't have to pay $3K for a plot of land that says First Land -- all that generalized stuff. I think we all feel that newbies should be allowed to explore the game at their own pace with no pressure from older players to get into some scheme. For non-newbies it's caveat emptor, of course.


Your concept of newbies as wilting flowers needs to be revised. How about that wilting, shy, scared newbie you were so keen to pressure into believing that she was being "hustled by Prok" merely because she was asked if she wanted to sell her land? Is this your friend from TC?? That wilting newbie today, with the help of a boyfriend evidently, bought up all the first lands in sight, put all the parcels together, and today have a huge chunk of land for sale at a very healthy price. They probably aren't so new, if they were able to land within minutes of the opening of the new continent and get 4 first lands out of the blue, probably just by getting 5 new accounts, which is a perfectly legitimate thing to do. So new or not, they are not the fragile creatures you suppose but in fact hustlers themselves -- it is so hilarious that you can't see that. You might see it if you treated land not as a mere construction site, but for some people, a home in which they remain and follow the events of the neighbourhood.

From: someone
Anybody who has a scheme intended to separate newbies from their First Land, money or tier has targetted the wrong group, in my opinion. A short while ago I had the unusual opportunity to see through a newbie's eyes when an old friend of mine from Test Center in TSO noticed me working at a construction site. Of course we started touring around SL. We looked at Meins, checked prefabs, and I gave her all the standard advice. Since we are friends she told me her feelings about being approached concerning selling her First Land. She felt that another newbie with First Land had likely been approached in this same manner by this same individual.


This is total crap. Nobody "separates a newbie from their first land". Newbies are grownups, and can compare and contrast different offers. And when you find some willing ear to bend with malice, of course you can shape their impressions. Let your friend come forward with their actual testimony and let her actually prove that she was in any way pressured or scammed -- you'll find this isn't the case. Our program offers newbies the chance to:

a) get help in identifying the best first land out there -- something most newbies have no clue about and are only eager to get help with
b) an offer to buy the parcel at market rates outright, i.e. $3500 which is not a "lowball" but a normal price because it is *instant* whereas they might risk the market lowering if they sell themselves
c) they are free to leave that land on the market themselves and get the price they want, and I often tell them, based on what I can see, that the prices are only going up and they can get the best deal. Ask some of my customers who have waited to get the best deal, and they will prove that.
d) after the sales are over, they can rent for a very reasonable price of $250/week for a 512 in cash, or put their 512 donation in the group. There is no risk to them. They pull it out any time. They get access to land that is better than what they had in 512 hell -- and I can't think of a single other rentals company that gives equivalent land for equivalent tier.

Honestly, Traxx, with your superior notions of "I'm an architect and let me tell you about land" and your skewed notions of "newbies," your malice towards me based on personal baggage, and your hatred of real estate agents (common in this game) you're just not getting it. You aren't seeing the reality of the situation here which is this is a service to newbies, not a scam. Not very many people have taken advantage of this offer because of your hate campaign and your incitement of others to hate (as I can see now), so there is no "tier empire" being created "on the backs of newbies" but in fact there are quite a few happy customers.

Offering help to newbies to get them their first land, relieve them of the burden of bad first land choices, helping them sell first land, finding them very cheap rentals that allows them to save -- these are wonderful services that should be promoted more and taken advantage more, not idiotically slammed as a scam by someone with personal grievances such as yourself. It is a great service, and not that many people have taken advantage of it precisely because you are out actively sabotaging it. Those who have benefited from it are more than happy, but they aren't forum-posters, so they don't come on here and flame up. Go in my group. Talk to the 512 donaters. Talk to the newbies renting land. Take a poll. Bring a Linden. Bring 12 Lindens, I don't care. You will find that this program helps newbies and is not a scam.

I just bought a ridiculous parcel in Lemon for example to help a newbie. He donated tier to my group, he got cash from me for this badland, and I then sold it at a loss later just to get rid of it. He's happy, I'm happy that I have a longer-term customer, I even took a loss. But if I didn't take a loss, so what? This program is a loss-leader on the whole, and can't possibly benefit me at the expense of even 100 newbies. You just aren't getting the math of it and the realities of the land business because you are not engaged in it day-to-day as I am.

From: someone
I won't go into details, but the resulting conflict with the individual who had done the approaching included an abuse report against me, negrates by alts, repeated IMs to my friend and unauthorized transcripts of personal communications being sent by my opponent to my business associates, complete with a personal note indicating how these transcripts should be interpreted! Hey -- I'm an architect -- I just want to work on buildings, and have fun. But I had to go out and get a fully authorized transcript from my friend in case the lindens took the allegations seriously.


1) when you viciously slam another player in the game to clients and potential clients, sure you will get not only an abuse report but raising larger issues of what you are doing publicly. No one should have the ability to ruin another's business reputation based on malice and slander.
2) you are abuse-reported for verbal harassment when you do that and it is taken seriously
3) notecards cannot be published outside the game, but if you have a conversation in which you took part and wish to send it to another, I honestly can't see that as any violation, and even if technically it is, you need to show that someone is engaging in malicious slander to end that slander, full stop.
4) Negrates from alts are perfectly legitimate. Especially if those alts had once given you plusses, which you benefit from each week when you cash out your stipends
5) Lindens are not going to take any of your silly posturing accusations of "abuse" and "harassment" seriously. But they do take seriously verbal harassment that is intended to demean and diminish. You can't go around and tell other players not to do business with someone, based on lies and malice.

From: someone

Back to work -- thanks for listening : )


Hey, I work hard, too, no need to posture quite so much.
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