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Purple Cube of Death in the New World

Traxx Hathor
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04-11-2005 19:26
Chad decided to move the Nexcom HQ building to another location. No more pink light from that funny house of death : D

Now we're in a gorgeous gardenlike sim, and chad wants a new design -- this time he wants something that blends in. Ever since I first saw the garden terrain I've wanted to build something on it. The big challenge will be to get people to leave as many plants on the land as possible while still fitting in a telecom building. A big plus is that the land around is empty, so we can build something now, and potential neighbors will be able to factor that into their buying decisions. No surprises.

Here's an image from the dawn of exploration in the new continent....
Random Unsung
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04-12-2005 00:00
From: someone
good news!

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Chad decided to move the Nexcom HQ building to another location. No more pink light from that funny house of death : D

Now we're in a gorgeous gardenlike sim, and chad wants a new design -- this time he wants something that blends in. Ever since I first saw the garden terrain I've wanted to build something on it. The big challenge will be to get people to leave as many plants on the land as possible while still fitting in a telecom building. A big plus is that the land around is empty, so we can build something now, and potential neighbors will be able to factor that into their buying decisions. No surprises.

Here's an image from the dawn of exploration in the new continent....


Neglected something again in the view-finder :)

The move was *not* prompted by any "pink light from that funny house of death" (it's a pink house of LIFE in fact in contrast to a white tower of DEATH lol) -- and in fact some tree scrim had been put up to block it with tree photographs on one side and invisible prim on the other (but someone must have decided it looked like hell because it came down quickly LOL).

But...In fact, the hasty Nexcom move was prompted not by the pinky but by the announcement of the imminent telehub to be inside of, or instead of, or around the Moth Temple in Iris. It was hilarious to watch how quickly the white-tower-of-death builder and the telecom-king skedaddled out of the architectural appreciation lecture and picked up their skirts to hightail it out of Cecropia. Exeunt stage north LOL! Within the hour, their old land had a flat Anshe Chung sign on it, no doubt indicating a fire-sale liquidation price LOL.

Good to hear there's no neighbours in the new tower's home...and more blending...and now...a garden sim, for a white vanity telecom tower to rise up out of the wilderness!...that wildnerness that just *happens to be* closer to a telehub, or at least a rumoured telehub ROFLMAO. Look for a rose-bedecked wildernessy gardeny pinky FREE VIDEO store coming to a garden sim near you!
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Random Unsung
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04-12-2005 00:04
From: someone
1- The answer was no.
2- You have no right to impose your version and vision of anything upon anyone.

It's harrassment.


Geez, it's just never penetrating. IT's not about "no". And it was not "harassment".

It is not "imposing a vision and a version" of anything upon anyone to *ask if their water is for sale to find out whether a view can be blocked, and to ask if they are going to keep building big to figure out whether to MOVE.*

Honestly, I can't for the life of me understand how that is imposition or any version or vision. It just doesn't wash.

If anything, those crapping up water and building big and forcing people to move were imposing visions and versions.

Honestly, I just don't get why this isn't clear?
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Weedy Herbst
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04-12-2005 12:00
From: Random Unsung
Honestly, I just don't get why this isn't clear?


Because people don't think like you do, yet another example of your imposition.
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04-12-2005 12:29
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Because people don't think like you do, yet another example of your imposition.


They don't have to think "like me" or me "like them" for us to have a common understanding, that there is nothing at all "imposing" about asking whether water is for sale, or whether someone will build big *so they can move if they have to,* i.e. ceding "right of way" to that "eminent domain".

I find that many people react hysterically when you ask about a sale. And when others ask about a sale, it can often be hostile. This is the game's default culture. Usually when someone wants to buy, or is asking to sell, it is "about taking over".

But sometimes it's not. It's about a little patch of water in the viewline, that's all. And the viewline containing a sculpture of some vulture grabbing a fisherman by the neck and hauling him away.

Now, however cute, however kitsch, however cleverly-made, honestly, Weedy, could you put that scultpure *right next to your viewline* for a week and then get back to me and tell me your feelings about "imposition" and all that? You're still not getting it.
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Weedy Herbst
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04-12-2005 12:41
From: Random Unsung
Now, however cute, however kitsch, however cleverly-made, honestly, Weedy, could you put that scultpure *right next to your viewline* for a week and then get back to me and tell me your feelings about "imposition" and all that? You're still not getting it.


Its not your land, it's none of your business. Too damn bad you dont like it, but otherwise whining day after day in these about being a victim gets really old. Keep your nose out of other people's affairs, respect them for what they do base on their beliefs and not yours, maybe you might get some respect.

Everyday it's griever this, bad builder that, Linden this, FIC that. Sheesh. Get on with your life and get out of everyone's face, please.
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04-12-2005 12:59
From: someone
Its not your land, it's none of your business. Too damn bad you dont like it, but otherwise whining day after day in these about being a victim gets really old. Keep your nose out of other people's affairs, respect them for what they do base on their beliefs and not yours, maybe you might get some respect.

Everyday it's griever this, bad builder that, Linden this, FIC that. Sheesh. Get on with your life and get out of everyone's face, please.


Excuse me, but we LONG AGO left this story behind. When that player who started the big public beef didn't sell her little patch of water or take the stuff out of the viewline or answer any questions about whether she'd keep building big, guess what? Everybody just shrugged and went on with their lives. The put their view distance down a little bit, maybe they turned their buildings away a little bit, but that was the end of it. Life went on. The SL servers turned on their axis. And nobody kept whining in the way you imagined in some caricature of things as they actually stand in this community.

There's no "nose" in anybody's business. This affair over this little patch of water closed long ago, but it's important for you to have the last word on it, when I doubt you've ever seen it, or ever thought about what it would be like to have it in front of your yourself. We did listen to you whine about griefers for days, and everyone was patient and respectful about it. So try to show the same courtesy for others.

Yes, every day, it is indeed griever this, obstructive/sim-lagger builder that (not "bad" builder because we don't comment on "bad" builds), Linden this, and FIC that. Yes indeed. It's what is visible in the game, and it needs comment, and it needs changing, and that's legitimate. Try to see as many situations as I do in dealing with dozens of customers every day on numerous land parcels on dozens of sims, and you'll get it.

No, I don't plan on getting out of the face of people who lag sims to 37, who use bouncer scripts, who build buildings that actually obstruct egress from property, who put huge ugly builds right in the water in front of neighbours, when they have thousands of square meters where they could be putting it, and other things that just aren't neighbourly. There's no "right of way" for the arrogant, inconsiderate people who continue to do this in the game. It's right to keep asking people to stop being this aggressive, arrogant, and full of their sense of entitlement.

I think we probably agree more about this than you're willing to let on. But for whatever, reason, you feel like you need to cling tightly to your position as my enemy. I hope it continues to serve you, in the way you need it to.
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Weedy Herbst
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04-12-2005 13:54
You are not a Linden. The Lindens make the rules and enforce them. You are not my enemy, but I find your rhetoric is redundant.

Here is an example: I never charged a person a single L$ for rent for living or selling items on my land. Does that give me the right to defame you because you do? OMG Prokofy makes real money of the backs of others, he MUST be GREEDY. Greed is killing SL and the Lindens don't do enough to stop it. STOP THE MADNESS!!

Now do you understand absurd?
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04-12-2005 14:29
hey I have an idea! How about putting a moratorium on casinos. That is no new casinos can be built. We'll go ahead and gradfather in the existsing ones of course :-)

Tee Hee
chad Statosky
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04-12-2005 14:43
From: someone
The move was *not* prompted by any "pink light from that funny house of death" (it's a pink house of LIFE in fact in contrast to a white tower of DEATH lol) -- and in fact some tree scrim had been put up to block it with tree photographs on one side and invisible prim on the other (but someone must have decided it looked like hell because it came down quickly LOL).


we moved for four reasons.

1) Burns is a beautiful sim that i like very much.
2) The Pink light was driving me crazy
3) too many grifers in the previous sim
4) Telehub location

prok if you follow us into the new sim we will view this as harrasment.
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Nolan Nash
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04-12-2005 14:47
If your tone is ANYTHING close to to that which you employ on these forums when you approach people about land in-world, I am not suprised at all if people don't react too well to you. You are one of the biggest hypocrites I have ever had the (mis?)fortune of dealing with. You'll never make an impact on lucid people Prokofy. You can "push back" for an eon, all it's going to do is make you look like more of a magniloquent fool. In other words, SL and it's inhabitants are not going to bend to your whims no matter how long you bleat like a lost sheep, especially when you are the one doing 95+% of the "hectoring". But then you wouldn't know that - as you are 100% incapable of honest self-examination.

Have fun with your bevy of alts, it's really quite comical to watch you support "Random" with them. Yes. It's THAT obvious. You may have a large vocabulary, but you are a piss poor storyteller.

That said, I am through with you, period. That's a promise. You are simply not worth the calories expended whilst typing, nor those burned whilst reading your grandiose, paranoid delusions. Everything is NOT about you tovarich.

Addendum:

I would urge anyone else who is weary of Prokofy's self indulgent BS to simply stop responding to her. The responses only "validate" her paranoid belief that everyone is out to get her. It's like poison ivy, if you don't scratch it, it will go away quicker.
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Prokofy Neva
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04-12-2005 15:48
From: someone
we moved for four reasons.

1) Burns is a beautiful sim that i like very much.
2) The Pink light was driving me crazy
3) too many grifers in the previous sim
4) Telehub location

prok if you follow us into the new sim we will view this as harrasment.


Hi, chad

I love Burns! It's so...gardeny!

I have a great roadside plot that Anshe let go for a song! Viewlines are pretty good.

Pink light? Would...hmmm...more of a chartreuse work in the garden sim?

Griefers? Ack, I hate griefers. What can you do. Just don't use bouncer scripts tho.

Telehub location? Well, there is a rumour of a location MAYBE...you can get awfully burned on things like that.

Harassment? But land is open for anyone to buy in this game, and if they follow the TOS, they can do what they like on their property.
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Prokofy Neva
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04-12-2005 15:58
From: someone
If your tone is ANYTHING close to to that which you employ on these forums when you approach people about land in-world, I am not suprised at all if people don't react too well to you. You are one of the biggest hypocrites I have ever had the (mis?)fortune of dealing with. You'll never make an impact on lucid people Prokofy. You can "push back" for an eon, all it's going to do is make you look like more of a magniloquent fool. In other words, SL and it's inhabitants are not going to bend to your whims no matter how long you bleat like a lost sheep, especially when you are the one doing 95+% of the "hectoring". But then you wouldn't know that - as you are 100% incapable of honest self-examination.


Would you stop it with the personal attacks, Nolan? They are not encouraged here on the forums, you know.

I didn't approach them with any tone, there was a one-line email sent while the person was offline, saying "Would you consider selling some water, an owner is interested" kind of thing. Please!

I do engage in honest self-examination, and that is why I feel called upon to ask others to do the same.

From: someone
Have fun with your bevy of alts, it's really quite comical to watch you support "Random" with them. Yes. It's THAT obvious. You may have a large vocabulary, but you are a piss poor storyteller.


Alts are legal in this game. Alts that are in the same land groups with the same URL web pages are hardly some kind of subterfuge. Could you get off it? And what's hilarious, if somebody has supported Random or me, in fact they aren't my alts LOL. That's the hilarious thing! People really do agree with me sometimes!

From: someone
That said, I am through with you, period. That's a promise. You are simply not worth the calories expended whilst typing, nor those burned whilst reading your grandiose, paranoid delusions. Everything is NOT about you tovarich.


OK, sounds good. Buh-bye.

Addendum:

From: someone
I would urge anyone else who is weary of Prokofy's self indulgent BS to simply stop responding to her. The responses only "validate" her paranoid belief that everyone is out to get her. It's like poison ivy, if you don't scratch it, it will go away quicker.


As you can see, my main avatar is male, whatever female alts I have, and you need to stop this endlessly slamming and intimations on your perceptions of my sexual preferences by constantly saying "she" in some misguided anti-gay slam thing. Please get off that.

Geez, what bit you today, Nolan?
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Prokofy Neva
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04-12-2005 16:02
From: someone
You are not a Linden. The Lindens make the rules and enforce them. You are not my enemy, but I find your rhetoric is redundant.

Here is an example: I never charged a person a single L$ for rent for living or selling items on my land. Does that give me the right to defame you because you do? OMG Prokofy makes real money of the backs of others, he MUST be GREEDY. Greed is killing SL and the Lindens don't do enough to stop it. STOP THE MADNESS!!

Now do you understand absurd?


I don't get your point about Lindens?

You could be entitled to express that opinion about renting, and I think in doing so you are in fact expressing what you think of people who rent land, and that's the trouble. It's the heart of the anti-commerce spirit in this game, that attitude. I think it's wrong, and shouldn't be allowed to stand.

I honestly don't know what you expect the Lindens to do about "greed"? I mean, is this in fact the medieval guild village I have started to see more and more it in fact is?
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chad Statosky
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04-12-2005 16:07
you may do what you want as long as you do not violate the TOS, following us would be considered harrasment so please dont do it.
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Prokofy Neva
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04-12-2005 16:24
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following us would be considered harrasment so please dont do it.


chad, I don't know if you are an expert on harassment and the TOS.

I don't think that "following" somebody around the SL land terrain like a chess game is a violation of the TOS. I figure it can't be, because Plastic Duck followed you around and nothing appears to have happened. In fact, he had big parties, and there was checking with the Lindens and whatnot but it seems that you all found a mutual appreciation of atomic nuclear stations belching smoke, and were able to bond on that. Big begets big.

I don't see that moving into a square next to someone else in a game where the land is open to the public for anyone to buy in the open grid can be considered a TOS violation.

Furthermore, why would you consider that it would be "following you" if I moved to Burns?

Everybody is moving out there because of the rumoured telehub.

Or did you think you'd hug it to yourself lol? Well, honestly, I follow the TOS, I do not harass, but I do like lively buildings, not death.
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Weedy Herbst
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04-12-2005 16:26
From: Prokofy Neva
I don't get your point about Lindens?


You are not a Linden. Yet you seem to think you can enforce YOUR rules upon anyone.

Nobody buys into that crap.
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Prokofy Neva
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04-12-2005 16:32
From: someone
You are not a Linden. Yet you seem to think you can enforce YOUR rules upon anyone.

Nobody buys into that crap.


Weedy, you keep spouting rhetoric that makes sense maybe in your internal world, but isn't making sense as far as this conversation on this forum.

I'm definitely not a Linden, and have no aspirations to become one, I leave them pretty much alone.

What are "my rules" that I am seeking to "enforce" upon someone else? I'd like to see the examples? I don't see them.

What, I have a reasonable expectation that someone will understand that they can say "no, my water is not for sale but what's bothering you about the water?" and simply explain "No, I don't plan to put more big crap in the water, don't worry."

Honestly, I get a hundred interchanges with neighbours like that a month. There are constantly cases where people say, "Is your tenant going to finish that big build on your land? I hate the plywood look" or "Your tenant didn't landscape, it looks bad, are you going to?" or "Your tenant has a huge white box, why are you allowing that?" or "Could you move all your trees? They wave too much in my face," etc. These are all normal, everyday transactions that normal people answer with things like "Don't worry, the plywood will be gone soon" or "Can I put that back in inventory for you?" or "It doesn't need landscaping really, but we can review it" or "I'll move the trees" or "The tenants changed the color of their white box, happier now?" etc.

Honestly, you're not making sense.
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Weedy Herbst
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04-12-2005 16:39
From: Prokofy Neva
What are "my rules" that I am seeking to "enforce" upon someone else? I'd like to see the examples? I don't see them..


Read your own posts. They are full of your hectoring.
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chad Statosky
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04-12-2005 16:47
You force you own views onto everyone else and personally I think your a depressed 70 year old woman thats never had anyone love her and now wants to feel some control over people inside a video game because everything is dieing in her life. Please give us all a break.

We dont want to hear your rants about this and that just.

Just be a nice person and dont use alterior motives for your own person dilema with other people, and you might make a few friends.

What exactly makes you write 2 page long essays on everything other people say so you can force your own views on them?
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dingo Wallaby
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04-12-2005 16:54
You force you own views onto everyone else and personally I think your a depressed 70 year old woman thats never had anyone love her and now wants to feel some control over people inside a video game because everything is dieing in her life. Please give us all a break.

We dont want to hear your rants about this and that.

Just be a nice person and dont use alterior motives for your own person dilema with other people, and you might make a few friends.

What exactly makes you write 2 page long essays on everything other people say so you can force your own views on them?
Prokofy Neva
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04-12-2005 17:25
From: someone
You force you own views onto everyone else and personally I think your a depressed 70 year old woman thats never had anyone love her and now wants to feel some control over people inside a video game because everything is dieing in her life. Please give us all a break.

We dont want to hear your rants about this and that.

Just be a nice person and dont use alterior motives for your own person dilema with other people, and you might make a few friends.

What exactly makes you write 2 page long essays on everything other people say so you can force your own views on them?


*Takes out estrogen pills.*
*Weeps over photographs of dead people*
*Reaches blindly for walker*

ROFLMAO! This is one of the most hilarious posts I've ever read. Um...did you ever hear of "expressing an opinion"? That's not *imposing* an opinion.

Yeah, I know, my posts are too long. Well, now that my rheumatism is acting up and I'm on my way to the funeral of yet another one of my 80-year-old friends ROFLMAO I guess I'll be posting less LOL.
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Ardith Mifflin
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04-12-2005 17:32
From: Prokofy Neva
Weedy, you keep spouting rhetoric that makes sense maybe in your internal world, but isn't making sense as far as this conversation on this forum.


This is what psychiatrists refer to as projection.
Ingrid Ingersoll
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04-12-2005 17:38
From: Prokofy Neva
*Takes out estrogen pills.*
*Weeps over photographs of dead people*
*Reaches blindly for walker*



Hey, it beats dealing with PMS.
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Traxx Hathor
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04-12-2005 18:07
Nolan:

From: someone
If your tone is ANYTHING close to to that which you employ on these forums when you approach people about land in-world, I am not suprised at all if people don't react too well to you. You are one of the biggest hypocrites I have ever had the (mis?)fortune of dealing with. You'll never make an impact on lucid people Prokofy. You can "push back" for an eon, all it's going to do is make you look like more of a magniloquent fool. In other words, SL and it's inhabitants are not going to bend to your whims no matter how long you bleat like a lost sheep, especially when you are the one doing 95+% of the "hectoring". But then you wouldn't know that - as you are 100% incapable of honest self-examination.

Have fun with your bevy of alts, it's really quite comical to watch you support "Random" with them. Yes. It's THAT obvious. You may have a large vocabulary, but you are a piss poor storyteller.

That said, I am through with you, period. That's a promise. You are simply not worth the calories expended whilst typing, nor those burned whilst reading your grandiose, paranoid delusions. Everything is NOT about you tovarich.

Addendum:

I would urge anyone else who is weary of Prokofy's self indulgent BS to simply stop responding to her. The responses only "validate" her paranoid belief that everyone is out to get her. It's like poison ivy, if you don't scratch it, it will go away quicker.



Nolan, I understand 100% what you're saying. But the poison ivy doesn't go away if you ignore it. It's just a matter of personal preference that I do ignore it, and refuse to be baited into a flame war, no matter how egregious the character assasination gets at times.

I do appreciate the time and effort you have put into puncturing the pr balloon, Nolan. And Weedy and Tang and all the others for whom I've developed a great fondness due to reading their spirited posts.

Being internally disengaged from the drama keeps me from getting mad. It allows me to see the drama as dramatic conflict -- a necessary component for the entertainment value in works of fiction, biography and other non-fiction as well. The dramatic conflict adds value to the game experience by entertaining paying subscribers.

The only place where 'entertainment' is the wrong context is where newbies are involved.

Most experienced players give the same standard advice to new players. How to use Ctrl H and why you don't have to pay $3K for a plot of land that says First Land -- all that generalized stuff. I think we all feel that newbies should be allowed to explore the game at their own pace with no pressure from older players to get into some scheme. For non-newbies it's caveat emptor, of course.

Anybody who has a scheme intended to separate newbies from their First Land, money or tier has targetted the wrong group, in my opinion. A short while ago I had the unusual opportunity to see through a newbie's eyes when an old friend of mine from Test Center in TSO noticed me working at a construction site. Of course we started touring around SL. We looked at Meins, checked prefabs, and I gave her all the standard advice. Since we are friends she told me her feelings about being approached concerning selling her First Land. She felt that another newbie with First Land had likely been approached in this same manner by this same individual.

I won't go into details, but the resulting conflict with the individual who had done the approaching included an abuse report against me, negrates by alts, repeated IMs to my friend and unauthorized transcripts of personal communications being sent by my opponent to my business associates, complete with a personal note indicating how these transcripts should be interpreted! Hey -- I'm an architect -- I just want to work on buildings, and have fun. But I had to go out and get a fully authorized transcript from my friend in case the lindens took the allegations seriously.

Back to work -- thanks for listening : )
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