I have read this thread in its entirety and I'm astounded that our favorite forum pugilist has not entered his 8000 word justification as to why his build is good, right, proper, and feted.
At risk of bringing this on topic, knowing, severe use of light prims does very much intrude on other's land. And free video screens? I've not messed with video, but is not a 0.5m plywood cube a free video screen?
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Malachi Petunia
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04-07-2005 07:04
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Henry Hutchence
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04-07-2005 07:04
Boardman isn't some kind of artistic statement. It never was meant to be that. Thanks for being so condenscending about it though. I'll remember that next time you post about your next residential sim. edit: But more than likely I won't type anything negative about it because I'm not a mean spirited, angry, (bleeep). __________________ Geez, I'm not being condescending about Boardman. I love Boardman. Remember how high I bid to get into Boardman? I even tried to continue Boardman into Brown. No need to threaten me with nasty posts about my residential sims, because I'm not saying anything nasty about Boardman, I love, celebrate, fete, and adore Boardman and gnash my teeth because I am forever outside the gates of Boardman. I can't even get a TP into Boardman anymore. I even have to start new alts just to fly over Boardman longingly, hoping no one will figure out that alt is me. I watch for land to appear in Boardman...and wonder if I will ever be able to sneak into Boardman somehow...someday.... I'm making a different point. Maxx said elsewhere that SL has turned into a "suburbia," i.e. people who just make a lot of RL-like houses and "make settings from The Sims" as another poster here put it. So he is the one sneering about suburbia, not me. I used to live in RL suburbia and I understand its pros and cons. But I'm merely catching him on this contradiction then. He was bemoaning the lack of an "artists' enclave" in SL, and wailing that it was all "going suburbia". So I thought it was the ultimate irony that he, the one opposed to suburbia, wound up in ....Boardman, and on a $242 US 1536 plot at that! (Well he was already in Boardman, but he got more of Boardman). It's just hilarious. And what happened is that these artists bemoaning "suburbia" in fact...gravitated to suburbia as their home. And they turned that suburbia into something very beautiful...and in fact some critics might note that what they did was kind of transmogrified the suburbia concept into suburbia-as-artists'-enclave. They squared a circle. I just think it's funny thought. The chosen, high-priced artists' enclave in SL isn't say, oh, some lofts in Tribeca (would Maxim District be the equivalent) or some funky beach houses like in Provincetown but....Boardman...with its sprinklers, public swimming pool, and car parks. I just find it...hilarious! Don't you??? _____________________
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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04-07-2005 07:25
I just think it's funny thought. The chosen, high-priced artists' enclave in SL isn't say, oh, some lofts in Tribeca (would Maxim District be the equivalent) or some funky beach houses like in Provincetown but....Boardman...with its sprinklers, public swimming pool, and car parks. I just find it...hilarious! Don't you??? You ought to find out where Maxx has most of his land. _____________________
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
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04-07-2005 07:29
1. A gawdy casino with a spinning sign and faux Roman decor squeezing money out of innocent passing newbs provided by Schwan. It's worth mentioning that every thursday, some lucky player will win $500L just for playing a game at the casino. At the end of the night I draw a random name from the people who have played that day. What are you waiting for? Come play at the gawdy casino with a spinning sign and faux Roman decor today!!!! _____________________
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Maxx Monde
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04-07-2005 08:10
You ought to find out where Maxx has most of his land. Its okay Ingrid, prok'n'beans Alty McAlterson account doesn't hide the fact that his grasp of facts is sketchy, at best. Every time the Boardman auction comes up, I keep hearing different amounts. Now that *is* amusing. |
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Pol Tabla
synthpop saint
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04-07-2005 09:11
Tip for forum posters:
If you find that you've reached the point where you've started complaining about Boardman, of all places, you need to step away from the keyboard and take a few days off. Because at that point the only reason you're typing is to hear the sweet clickity-clack of the keyboard. Seriously. _____________________
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Henry Hutchence
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04-07-2005 09:28
Pol, Boardman is...well...Boardman. You have to understand that it is the suburban's artistian enclave, I mean the artists' suburban enclave...well. whatever.
Y ou ought to find out where Maxx has most of his land. Um yah. I know. He picked up like 5000 sqm in a snow sim that was publicked when Anshe's scanners were hiccuping. Congratulations. Yawn. Snow sim? TP me back to Boardman...puleeze! The auction was $252 or $242 or $262 but it was in the three-figure low range. Should I go back and check? Does it matter? _____________________
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Pol Tabla
synthpop saint
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04-07-2005 09:32
Pol, clickety clack. Clickety clickety clack. Click clickety clack. Clack. Clickety clack. Well said. _____________________
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Henry Hutchence
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04-07-2005 09:37
Originally Posted by Henry Hutchence 1. A gawdy casino with a spinning sign and faux Roman decor squeezing money out of innocent passing newbs provided by Schwan. It's worth mentioning that every thursday, some lucky player will win $500L just for playing a game at the casino. At the end of the night I draw a random name from the people who have played that day. What are you waiting for? Come play at the gawdy casino with a spinning sign and faux Roman decor today!!!! Now...why did I pick on your casino, seemingly, by using expressions like "gawdy" or "faux Roman"? Because...I wanted to turn the table on all these aestheticians here in the thread. In fact, I love the whole gawdy mess that Cecropia, that word-one-hop-away-from-the-word-Necropia--and I like to study the whole scene there since the battle of the White and Black towers. What are these aestheticians doing? They are all barking at some pink light-shedding box, put there as an arch joke with inside references to another pink box in another game, although, trust me, if I or my altruistic friends were doing the barking about pink light-shedding boxes, the aestheticians would all be yammering about how I didn't realize you can do what you want to on your own land blah blah blah. There'd be no poignant anthropomorphic metaphors about CPU screeching if I were the one complaining about the light-shed. So it has been interesting to me to flush them out finally with some standards that in fact they'd like to see -- because I help them articulate those standards as soon as they get a chance to apply them to me or my alt-ruistic friends LOL. Those standards include things like agreeing that a purple box is more ugly than a white tombstone; that light is a CPU killer and should be reduced, etc. But what's most interesting is that Schwan, one of them, and certified-FIC, and therefore above reproach, can put up a casino, with a spinning thingie, with lighted and scripted objects galore, with a gawdy decor (and don't get me wrong, it's a FUN gawdy decor and I like it), and none of them will have a word to say. Not a word. Because it's not really about architectural or urban planning or visual styles but about "my own tribe and my fierce dependence of it". That's what this thread has proven. Thank you. _____________________
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Schwanson Schlegel
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04-07-2005 09:54
Thank you. Your welcome?  I hope you come by and play. _____________________
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Maxx Monde
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04-07-2005 09:59
Hey Prok'n'Hutch, here's a fun mini-game. Try to express an idea without multiple paragraphs. C'mon, I know you can do it. What is the purpose of an alt when all your screeds give it away so easily?
Har. Ok, I expect just one paragraph. Lets give that a go, eh? |
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Talen Morgan
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04-07-2005 10:06
Hey Prok'n'Hutch, here's a fun mini-game. Try to express an idea without multiple paragraphs. C'mon, I know you can do it. What is the purpose of an alt when all your screeds give it away so easily? Har. Ok, I expect just one paragraph. Lets give that a go, eh? You stand a better chance getting a pig to not roll around in mud  _____________________
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Elle Pollack
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04-07-2005 10:21
Um...Paging Prokofy to the thread? Will the real Prokofy please stand up?
I'm not sure who's whose alt, or whether the thread starter (whose group affiliations include various Linden fanclubs and the W-Hat Fan Club) is a Prokofy alt or whether the photo might have been faked to have Prok's name as the owner or whether Prok's now experimenting with what annoys people to try and come up with some guideline, and why he'd be using free giveaways to do it, or, or... But for the love of all that is primmy, if this is a joke, take the purple cube down! Or at least turn off the light! I've not even seen it in world but it hurts to think about it. |
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Lefty Belvedere
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04-07-2005 10:24
This entire thread is an example of what a few well organized project sims can do for the game's experience. I am in the beginnings of planning a new set of zoned and managed sims so that nothing like we see here will happen on such a gross scale.
I say come up with a system to keep cute little houses with other cute little houses and attractive retail buildings with the attractive retail buildings. So i did! ~Lefty Belvedere http://www.infinite-island.com coming soon |
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Margaret Mfume
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clickety clack. Clickety clickety quack. Click clickety quack. quack. Clickety quack.
04-07-2005 10:37
Poor tiki hut dwellers... Poor tiki hut dwellers? W-hat about poor little P-ducky? Here he is trying to draw attention back to himself with his slime spewing power plant next to the tikiville and all they do is talk about Boardman of all places, lol. All of his little quacky friends can hardly get a word in edgewise, much less a "Dude, I think your build is awesome." hey no fair, you took that mid construction See what I mean? Poor, poor little P-ducky. QUESTION: If a duck quacks in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound? _____________________
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Cocoanut Koala
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04-07-2005 10:43
Poor tiki hut dwellers, indeed.
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Kasandra Morgan
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04-07-2005 10:59
I was dismayed to log on to the new continent this morning and find a giant, tall Purple Cube of Death, this time of the light type that dominates the horizon for miles. The building utterly blinds the entire surrounding area, which is the first land you hit when you fly in from the old continent. It means that far from ever having a prayer of remaining residential, this sim has now been declared "gone to the dogs" of malls, clubs, lag, light pollution and all the mayhem of SL. What's truly hypocritical is that some associated with this building have been so vocal about claiming that we all had to hurry and take pictures because the new sims would be "crapped up" and they wouldn't retain their "pristine wilderness" for long due to all these "incompetent" newbies who would build ugly, and those who would rapaciously scar the land with malls, etc. They're the first to create exclusive, closed groups about supposedly "building in harmony in nature" -- but what "harmony" could we be talking about when it comes to this hulking menace??? Somehow, they figure they can get away with putting up the biggest purple building visible for miles simply beause it is theirs and because they are special. I don't know the purpose of this building but its purple glow seems utterly unnecessary. What is a building like this doing on the waterfront, anyway? It utterly lights up the little Tiki dream of the newbies below, and you wonder -- what, they had to come to rest in 512 land taken from newbies, they couldn't buy at the auction? And if they bought at the auction, they couldn't have the courtesy to leave the prime waterfront land to those with residential houses??? And just what will they do in their building, look out to the Linden sea and watch the sunsets as they count their mall money? What's especially obnoxious about this enterprise is that they are making grossly false accusations made against me and others to the effect that we are "pressuing and scamming newbies" out of their first land on this sim (yeah, all of 2 pieces LOL). I suppose what could be going on is that this prim-hungry bunch want to make sure they have eminent domain to break through to the sea themselves, since they didn't land a prime waterfront area themselves. Honestly, I don't understand all the hypocrisy here. "Architectural merit" isn't the issue, but the question of the citing of this cube of death in a place where people don't want to see such an out-of-place light prim. Hey! My house is the background of that picture. Cool! _____________________
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Henry Hutchence
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04-07-2005 12:13
I am in the beginnings of planning a new set of zoned and managed sims so that nothing like we see here will happen on such a gross scale. I say come up with a system to keep cute little houses with other cute little houses and attractive retail buildings with the attractive retail buildings. So i did  Scary. Paging Stepford Wives, come in please, Stepford Wives, your cue on stage-left please... _____________________
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Henry Hutchence
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04-07-2005 12:15
Hey Prok'n'Hutch, here's a fun mini-game. Try to express an idea without multiple paragraphs. C'mon, I know you can do it. What is the purpose of an alt when all your screeds give it away so easily? Har. Ok, I expect just one paragraph. Lets give that a go, eh? Vexx Manque, the purpose of an alt is to hold land groups so that no numwad can flip an officer recall on you and steal your land. _____________________
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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04-07-2005 12:16
Scary. Paging Stepford Wives, come in please, Stepford Wives, your cue on stage-left please... How is this scary? This is is exactly what you have been doing with some of your own residential areas? Is this kind of nastiness really necessary? _____________________
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Buster Peel
Spat the dummy.
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04-07-2005 12:31
Sure, Plastic Duck isn't a griefer. He's just another one of those w-hat types attracting attention by being as annoying as possible to as many users as possible without getting suspended. That isn't griefing, is it?
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Henry Hutchence
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04-07-2005 12:32
How is this scary? This is is exactly what you have been doing with some of your own residential areas? Is this kind of nastiness really necessary? I dunno...cuz he talked about all those cute little houses...and it just sounded...scary. Honestly, it was just a joke, not some venomous screed. Didn't you all see the movie and read the book? I like Blaze's suggestion to have these debates in-world, I think I'll do that tonight. Well, could I just explain the difference between my residential areas and his? Well, mine is, you pick what you want to put. It's more free. It's not like some guy sets it all up in advance. Now, I realize some communities let you have your own house, like Meins and Midge, but I'd be interested to hear the limits on that. In mine, you can either take a lovely Californication house by Ingrid Ingersoll, this week's special (if I can get the doors on right) OR...you can put in your own cute house...but we do try to have a bit of a discussion. For one, it can't be over two storeys (and *yes* we know about the one that is *three* in Pimushe but since it does not come up over the view line, well, it seemed "legit"  . We've never yet had a case where a house was a horrid box of death or a viewblocker. I guess because people settling on specific 1024s or 1536s in a residential neighbourhood where others have already set an example just don't feel called upon to make statements with toxic waste. And when they do something like build on the property line or build too big or do something that gets peoples' knickers in a twist, we try to work it out.Of course, we can't always work it out, but then, the great thing about our rentals is you can move from one to the next, where the style might be different, or just go to somebody else's rentals, or buy, or just fly around rootlessly. Well let me interrupt the usual afternoon wrangle for two station breaks. First, when I was flying around today I couldn't help notice that poor April wound up right smack against a big modern white cube of death again. It's one I happen to admire, but I'll bet she's ballistic. My God. It's like some evil magnet. Fortunately nothing like that is likely to happen in Sutherland, although some of us are still woefully behind in our landscaping duties. And the other point to make is that we need to keep the terminology correct here: o White Cube of Death o Black Tower of Doom o Purple Box of Venom It's very important to have correct architectural terms in these discussions, people. _____________________
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Margaret Mfume
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04-07-2005 12:52
Sure, Plastic Duck isn't a griefer. He's just another one of those w-hat types attracting attention by being as annoying as possible to as many users as possible without getting suspended. That isn't griefing, is it? Just needy. Am reminded of a small child who's mother has company. The child resorts to increasingly outrageous behavoir in order to ensure that the attention stays focused on him or her. Understandable at that age since self identity is heavily defined relative to others. The same behavior exhibited by adults (boy, am i using that term loosely in this case) is just needy. _____________________
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April Firefly
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04-07-2005 13:40
First, when I was flying around today I couldn't help notice that poor April wound up right smack against a big modern white cube of death again. It's one I happen to admire, but I'll bet she's ballistic. My God. It's like some evil magnet. Fortunately nothing like that is likely to happen in Sutherland, although some of us are still woefully behind in our landscaping duties. The only thing I seem to attract would be your attention. For your information, that build was there when I moved. I didn't mind it because in this case, there was no set rules as there was in Midge and Pimushe. But you can't seem to understand the logic of that. It's not a cube of death, it's a very nice building built by a very nice person. All of my neighbors are now very nice. AS for Sutherland, I am no longer in Suther either. I am no longer near you in any way shape or form except in Columbia where I vacation and the draw distance is low enough that I don't see your glorious floating mall. You may now release me from your radar and no longer be concerned about my well being. Thank you for all the entertainment. Good luck in your future endeavors and have a nice day. _____________________
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Bruno Buckenburger
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04-07-2005 15:08
Finally I wish people would stop saying this nuclear power plant is some attempt at griefing to extort land or whatever. I moved into that spot because it was a very cheap plot of land, and I was looking for a place that I could make a building rather than small stuff in sandboxes. The black tower was just a temporary thing I threw down because I was messing around with land tools and such, and wanted to have a place that me and friends could hang out meanwhile. Personally, I like the plant and think it fits in well in that part of the world. People approaching first see this stupid ass prim rig and then a pipeline to the new continent. Why not expect an industrial complex that includes a power plant. Hell, I'd like to see a mini-Detroit in that area. We're almost there already with casinos and belching smokestacks. |
