Prices Doubling?

Gas is a need. Food is a need. Second life clothing, house, etc..are ALL LUXURIES. ther eis no comparison here.

Something different to everyone Dmitri

Actually the market got bad in world and out PRECISELY when a certain few money mongerring indeividuals hit on this create a panic to force ppl into buying thier L's scheme. I remember when my sales started nosediving. It was precisely when this false panic was created. How about we talk Linden into divulging precisely WHO sold those huge blocks so dirt cheap on e-bay. Bet we'd find some rather familiar names among the end stipend folks.

Yup, I'd have to agree. A lot of others have made the same comment. The most common thought that I've heard on the numerous L$/stipend threads is:

* Give new users L250 to get their feet wet
* Give them a 30 day trial
* Offer them then a $12 a year membership (50L a week) or a Premium membership (500L a week)
* If a free account was allowed after 30 days... no stipends for that account (although I think free accounts are a little ludicrous. Who can't afford $1 a month?)

Now myself, I'd even go farther and say a more realistic stipend for Premium members would be L250 a week. That would put an end to the farming accounts for a certainty. But... that would probably be an unpopular idea.

Your not caring about tiger in house won't save you when tiger become hungry. When you pay extra life-money at grocery store than you did years ago it same thing. You don't exchange U.S. dollar for Yen, yet that market change effect you too.

you want to chat go to yahoo.

No real $US value?
then why is Linden lab charging 1250 US dollars to buy a sim and charging $195 US a month to run the server? Why is there a land auction? why is there membership fees? I know it isnt a game it is an online community. Do you think Linden Employees are not getting paid? Contents creators make SL alive they should be paid for their time. Go to Wow or another chat platform game the employees get paid to design it.

If the contents creators didn't create, you would be sitting on an empty SIM, how long are you going to pay your memberrship frees for just chat?

Jonas.......I pay for my rent, food, and my daughters medical bills with SL money. you going to tell me that my 12 hours a day of designing as a real job in SL isnt a necessity to my real life?

graphic designers get paid around $30 dollars an hour, I get paid alot less doing it here but I do it here because it is fun and challenging.

What you say here, more wanting something for nothing. Greed. When people effort have no value to you, you have no value either.

LOL Jonas. Forgive me laughing, but LOL.

A merchant charging more for a product because overhead costs goes up has nothing to do with asking you to subsidize their business. That IS business. It's how it works. I can guarantee you are already seeing increased prices at the grocery store, the book store, and other RL markets because gasoline has skyrocketed. That's life bud.

No one is asking you to subsidize anything. You don't have to buy anything. A merchant has the right to charge what they feel necessary to earn a profit. They're not greedy, they're not forcing you to do anything, they're not the "evil greed mongers" as so many people delight in saying.

They're offering a product. You have a right to buy it or not buy it. That's it.

Kudos!



Not disagreeing with you there

It is not jsut 1 thing that is wrong with the economy IMHO. there is many variables.

As long as they offer lower premium fees for reduced stipend, or recomnsate us, I'd have no issue. For free accounts - we need reasons to go prmium, the more the better.

I don't want or need anything of anyone else's. I am stating simple FACTS.....if something is only useable in one place it has no real dollar value outside that place. If you want to assign a real dollar value to something then the Geometry has to be provided with it so it CAN be used somewhere other than SL. Simple facts, if you pay someone 4000 L's for a skin and it can only be used in here, if this place folds tomorrow your 4000 L's and whatever real world value you placed on them has been wasted, until and unles you can DL the actual textures provided to make that skin and the texture maps for same. Same thing goes for any object. It has no value in real dollars as it has no value outside SL.

Overhead on SL hasn't gone up. Only the exchange rate has changed. My concern is merchants who complain that noone buys their products after they raise their prices.

By saying so, I'm not a greedmonger, as one irrelevant poster here claims.

You're entitled to that opinion... as misguided as it may be.

[edited due to misreading]

Dmitri, people chat in chat rooms. If someone wants to play a game... they can go to WalMart and buy one. You think SL has no RL or USD value? Tell that to the some US$75,000 a day traded in SL. You tell others to wake up... take your own advice.

There are support groups that meet on SL to encourage those who are hurt. The ability to create things here has highly theraputic value.

There are RL businesses that conduct their business meetings here. There's nothing "game" or "chat" about that. And it surely IS business. (If you believe SL isn't a business.. tell that to Anshe Chung).

There are live musicians who perform music here and get RL$ for doing so.

Second Life has been on the front cover of BUSINESS WEEK.

Second Life is a VIRTUAL SOCIETY. It may not be physical. You may not be able to touch it. That makes it no less real, nor less productive, than your RL. It may be even moreso.

VAlue is in eye of beholder. If you no wich to pay for what others do, then you have no need to make comment on what they do with thier value. Enterainment and luxury items all have limited spans, is how it works. Still does not mean we get them for nothing.

And if you don't know how someone thinks you don't need to try to think for them.

Applaudes!!!!!!!!

Recomensate you for what? You're a non-paying user with no land. You're not a merchant. You're spending nothing.What are they supposed to compensate you for?

Wayfinder... read Dmi's post again. He said it is NOT a game. You wrote a long post saying he was calling SL a game when he said the opposite.


If SL isn't a chat then what are people doing when they aren't creating? Just standing around staring at each others avs? It is a platform with chat, ergo, it is a chat.
Dmi is most definately not "another one of the "it's just a game" people". I do live with him in RL so I think I would know.

to buy a sim from Linden lab has gone up $255 US dollars. How can you sit there and say Overhead on SL hasn't gone up?

Ah, technically you are correct.



So yes you're right. He claims it's a chat. I'll go back and edit my original post to reflect that acknowledgement.

But... for the record...

Sigh... another ond of those "it's just a chat" people...

Get a clue this IS a chat room with added features. and I did say it is NOT a game. As far as SL being on the cover of business week I am sure that Enron was there a few times too. If you've ever worked media then you know about 90% of what you hear even on your local news is contrived by those news casts for ratings. Same with any articles you read in business week. You could do a busines with sratup costs in the thousands and make a billion in the first year and they won't notice you at all unles others plug you or you offer them free stuff. Reality in reporting...let's see...AMD runs tests that shows Intels CPUs are worse. Intel does the reverse. Where are the true facts? Articles done in publications and news reports are nothing more than contrived advertisements and depending on how much the writer gets out of it you get a good one or a bad one. I imagine if you had been one of the persons who heard Orson Welles broadcast war of the worlds you'd have jumped out a window to escape a horrible death at the hands of the martians. Do you believe everything you read and hear? and BTW, I do ahve experience in media..as a news director.

I wasn't aware it had gone up. But then I pay my teir for mainland, not islands.

TY for acknowledging your error. And yes it is just a chat. New people here have zero chance of making a real life income from SL.

Well..... for those who don't create content it is just a chat. lol Good thing Dmi and I are both content creators.