Griefer Neighbors

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To avoid being accused of abusing your neighbor, put an alpha texture on their side of the wall and make it a phantom.

I'd put something more attractive on my side of the wall, if I were you, but of course that's up to you.

Speaking in general terms, it is my understanding that encroaching prims (those that overlap your land borders, even if the centerpoint is not on your land) can be abuse reported and removed by a Linden.


- Newfie

What's a reasonable amount of time for this to be tended to by LL?

I looked at all those pics and couldn't tell one jumble of build from the next!

I just visited and couldn't see anything that made any sense *shrug* all I saw was one Bush sign too.

Lewis

A reasonable time for response should be no more than 2 minutes. Tech Support should be on the premesis, asses that an object is overlapping, remove the object, and apologize for the inconvenience. All in a polite, friendly, and professional manner.
But of course, this is LL we are dealing with. I understand they will get to it when they are ready.

A TP to the park is located in my profile under my picks.


As advised by some of the players in this forum, I got rid of the synthetic worm textures that I had originally placed on their side of the wall. My intention was not to violate SL CS with those synthetics. I had originally placed those textures there in response to their behavior. I replaced those textures with default media textures to avoid complication.
I can only hope that there is something LL can do about what they are doing.


These are the images of both sides of the land which I have added to the first post:
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4 words that should provide a solution:

Seizure Inducing Texture Rotation

This is the pic from last month.
The park looked like this up until the neighbors moved in, and I put the walls up.

I have no problem with them having a store next door or a club. I fully support whatever my neighbors want to do because I respect my neighbors. I would not have put a wall up even on the surface if they had their store or club there or anywhere above their parcel.

I would not try to force myself on them or interfere with what they are doing so they may go about their business in privacy and freedom. I try to have consideration for my neighbors so that my park does not bother them.

What these people are doing however is disrespectful, and insconsiderate. From the moment they moved in, they have been forcing themselves on me and want me to put a walkway to their land. They moved their club right next to my park when they could have easily put it anywhere else. And they wish to convince me that I am the one being rude because I do not want to have any dealings with them.

Wow. Are you for real?

Your expectation of two minutes is unreasonable, imo. Is that based on SL being a fantasy island where all your dreams come true? The only way this expectation could be met is if LL had idle employees, free from other responsibilities, just in case a customer support call came in. What kind of business model is that? I can't think of any situation where I'd expect a 2 minute response time, even in an emergency request to the police, fire department, or ems. Even if they had point to point .

2 minutes? HAH! I am sure the L's got a laugh out of that one.
EDIT: Because I know I did

The only thing they have done wrong IMO is the sign that goes onto your land. What people do on their own land is their business. If they want to put their club up next to your land you can't do anything about it.

What bugs me though, and the reason I don't feel for you guys at all, is that you completly 100% abuse the event system. Which affect's everyone in the game. And I feel that extreme abuse of the events system is more actionable then someone putting a sign that goes through onto your property, in an area that none of your visitors even see.

I do not apprteciate your snide comments about being a fantasy island.
I am being serious and respectful.

2 minutes in my book is the maximum I would want my customers to wait. If I have a customer waiting longer than that, I will be apologizing profusely. Comparing police and ambulance is not the same thing. In situations involving lines and ques, 0 wait time is ideal, and 2 minutes is maximum.

When there is a serious emergency in RL regarding police or rescue, my expectations are higher. I expect 0min wait. In others words somebody should be on stand by in the case of a life and death situation. This is normally how they operate with the exception of neighborhoods such as mine where I get an answering machine when I dial 911.

Whether at a bank, store, telephone, governent, or any normal professional business, a person should not have to wait in line. If they do, they should not have to wait more than 2 minutes. There should be enough employees ready to handle whatever load accumulates so these expectations are met. However, we are in America, and America has 'unreasonably' low standards. IMO.

I pretty much know wherever I go, that I am not likely going to get prompt service. People are not going to jump through hoops to serve me. Does that mean I want to be like that? Of course not. When I serve somebody, I serve them. I jump through hoops to meet reasobable expectations. I do not want my customers waiting a second. This attitude has got me far in any place I have been employed at, and it has gotten me far with my own business.

Dude? WTF is your problem? A 0min wait for police/fire/med teams? Have you even been seriously injured and have to wait for something to come and get you? Obviously not. Your expectations of "customer service" are insane! Nobody can help you and your 2min rule.



So you are calling yourself a brown-nose? I get paid for the work I do. Nuff' said.

I respect everybody on this forum, and I hav no interest in anybody that does not. I have given my opinion, and listened to the opinions of others without calling anybody insane, brown nose, making snide remarks, or belittling anybody's comments.

Police usually have 0 wait time. When they get a call for a serious life/death emergency, they somebody available to handle it without delay.
Regarding customer service, 2min should be max. I dont' believe anybody should be kept waiting. It is not necessary.

Police don't have 0 wait time. They can't teleport to your house...

If you want to talk to a person call up the LindenLabs support number.

This is unreasonable. Employees are expensive. People wan't to pay the least amount possible. If you expect the bank to cut down to your 2 min or less wait time then you had better smile when paying all the fees it would require to get it done (a few years ago it was the rage to charge people to use the teller at all). Or, use the online banking and ATM machines. Not to mention that the average customer time at the teller window is LONGER than 2 min. This could be reduced if the tellers were told to act like automatons and did not engage the customer at all. Somehow, I don't think you would enjoy this either.

And why the hell does everthing end in "because America suxxxs at [insert whatever you want here]"? I realize that there are no lengthy queues and no inferior customer service in the rest of the world, but geez can you cut us some slack every once in a while?

Automation is a nasty thing, then isn't it? Almost any time I call anyone, I get the damned automated receptionist and have to wait patiently through what seems like 15 different options. If anyone is talking in the background and I miss it, I have to patiently listen again, push the appropriate button... it takes almost 2 minutes to get to a CSR rep's queue where you will then wait approximately 5 minutes to talk to a person. While you are waiting, a friendly voice tells you to email them to avoid waiting on the phone....

Well, the greifer and the greifed are a lost cause in this case. Throw it back into the lake Jimbo!

I just visited, and the only way I could tell who was supposed to be griefing who was by checking that protruding sign.

Hold on, I'll be with you in a minute.

Police do not need to TP in order to have 0 wait time.
They have the closest officer available immediately to postpone what they are doing, and proceed to a serious emergency. It might take them 5min to get there at top speed, but the wait time is still because they are attending to it immediately.



I don't think it's necessary to sacrifce quality and value in order to get speedy professional service. It might cost the the bank, store or whatever more, but ultimately I think both parties will be the better for it.

As for the American service, yes I do think the standards are low. However, I have been to many countries, and have experienced alot worse than what we have here. I do believe in convenience, and I believe convenice can be available to every citizen/consumer. It is up to the citizens as consumers to advocate higher standards of service from their providers. Hopefully in turn, they may also adhere to a higher standard of service if they are providers.

Insincere brownosing is not the same thing as sincerely believing that your customers deserve the best, and apoligizing to them if you are unable to deliver the standards you have set for yourself because you really are sorry for the inconvenience.

Frank have you turned bitter on SL?

I don't think I'm bitter. I'm a realist who sees some expectations as unreasonable and tries to find realistic solutions that might involve compromise and self-help instead of expecting "the guvment" to solve my problems with zero wait states for free. I stopped smoking that laughing tobaccky years ago.

I called tech support, and told them there was a sign on my land that I could not delete. Without question, she told me she would fly over there right away. I met her at the location. She deleted the sign, and apologozed to me about it. I thanked her, and she was off. Wait time was 0.
Some people are really helpful.