HUGS for PATHFINDER

/me gives Pathfinder a hug and a handful of cookies.

Though I agree with those who think he didn't say anything he needed to apologize for. On the one hand, I don't know Prokofy well enough to personally have any issues with him; on the other hand, maybe I'm a freak, but I have no problem with forum moderators letting us know their opinions once in a while. It's much more welcome than always being unemotional and just quoting rules.

Don't let it get you down, dude... shake it off.

Word up, Pathfinder. You are one of the most admirable members of our community!

*Holds on to the Pathfinder bear hoping it's market value soars to unbelievable heights*

I'd just like to point out that I have seen Pathfinder become aware of a mistake in the past and hurry to correct it and apologize for it without having been "required" to. If Pathfinder saw he was in the wrong, I believe, that, whether required to or not, he'd have been the first to stand up and say, "Ok, I blew it. I'm very sorry." I say that though, not to pick a fight or to say that Moopf is in the wrong... I don't think that Moopf is in the wrong at all; just calling it as he sees it.

I make a huge effort to always TRY to view things from multiple perspectives. Sometimes I fail, sometimes I succeed. Ultimately, though, I form my opinions based on what *I* see and while my eyes may be further opened by another person, and I may learn to see more, or see more clearly - I still can only view the world as I view it.

At any rate, kudos, Pathfinder, for apologizing for a mistake with grace.

Hey there, Pathfinder!!

Hang in there. I know that the words you wrote were sincere and that you must be upset at the turmoil that your mistake has set off. It was truly an off day for you because I know you to generally be more careful than that.

I also know that the warning you received was taken to heart. But, please do not let this all harden you in striving for excellance in SL. There is much to be done and you can still do so much.

Hang tough.
Onwards and upwards,
Mel

WTG Pathy, Jesse, Jeska, Robin, and any other human who's had the unfortunate job of having to moderate...

There aren't enough bucks in the world to make me babysit this forum!

WHY I OUTTA MOOPF YOU!!

Careful you might start something, then everybody will be using my name as an alternative term for whatever it fits into!

HAH! They wish they could....*hugs*

I hope you know your efforts are appreciated, Pathfinder. And despite the warning over the little PR goof, I hope you're getting the support you need from LL to deal with this dumbass forum. Don't be the fall guy.

I'm not very huggly. Seriously, I was getting tested for glaucoma and the doctor started holding my hands, and I was thinking like, this isn't a gay thing, but dude, boundaries.

OK, HUGS.

"It takes a real man/woman to admit when they are wrong, thank you Path."

Cat

No worries here, Path. While it may or may not skate the line of internal policy, it was obvious to this reader that, among the universe of possible intents, hostility or malicious was not among the number. ~*H*~*U*~*G*~

As per usual, Pathfinder has reacted to this situation with grace and humilty.

I am sure that Phillip wasn't sitting over his shoulder telling him what to write.

Three cheers for Pathfinder!

Pathfinder for President! I don't know if what he did was wrong or not but only a Real Man could have apologized the way he did.

*hugs* You rock Path. You've got our support. ^_^

Find me online, Path. Have a bear for you...

I'm sorry that the corporate machine's got you down, Pathfinder. As you are forced to adopt a cold and aloof LL persona by threat of termination from the corporate heirarchy, know that we will always remember you as the real caring human being you once were. On the brighter side at least you've gained the ability to truly empathize with our secondary suffering at the hands of a problem player. It can only contribute to your skills as a moderator.

By the way, you should never have to apologize for the kind of creative, honest, and bold discussion you led in the forums. It's the best damn town hall I've heard since I've been in the game.

~Ulrika~

My dog likes to piss on the same hydrant twice, just to make sure everyone knows he was there.

Pathfinder,

The overwhelming majority of residents know that Lindens are under tremendous pressure due to time. As a Live Helper, someone who's seen and dealt with flagrant griefing, as well as someone used to the quagmire of forums, moderating something like this has to be a frustrating Sysiphusian task.

keep the faith.

While I understand the issue with what Pathfinder said in IRC, and agree that it wasn't the best approach, I'm not sure an apology is really necessary. Certain things have been clarified over the last week or so, regarding Linden moderation of the forums. I think Pathfinder and Jesse in particular are doing good work, and I appreciate their attitudes - which often challenge us to behave better.



You inviting him to join the Red Guard, Ulrika?

No. The source of my dissatisfaction is not capitalism (inferred from my use of the word "corporate" I assume), rather its a generic disdain for unaccountable hierarchies who achieve conformity through an unspoken threat of termination and public humiliation.

There's something just tragic to me about seeing a fine young man being forced to apologize for not maintaining a detached, corporate facade.

If this doesn't demonstrate that the Lindens are a virtual-world corporatist oligarchy, then I don't know what does.

~Ulrika~

Well, one can't run around discussing customers in the open. It isn't done. Even if the customer in question is a complete tool, it isn't done. It triggers people's bullshit detectors, makes them wonder about fairness and impartiality. Those who have power are expected to be objective about things, and to actively avoid even the appearance of any impropriety. There can never be even a slight impression of personal bias.

Once, there was a liaison in the WA who got just a bit snippy with a resident who was pouring on a thick layer of paranoid nonsense. I think pretty much everyone present would have sided with the liaison, yet I couldn't believe the things he was saying openly. (No disclosure about other players, just the way he answered what the resident was saying.) It would have been prudent for him to take it to instant messaging the second he smelled a hint of conflict.

When I was a phone slave, this was one of the first things they warned us about. We were not to go out to lunch, corporate badges in plain view, and discuss customers in front of the public. Not in any light, good or bad! We were also forbidden from ever posting in the company's support newsgroups, even if we didn't identify ourselves as employees. (Only certain techs and customer service reps were allowed to post there.) In external forums and discussion lists, we were not to speak on behalf of the company for any reason.

I don't know whether Linden Lab has a firm policy on this kind of thing.

T'was but a jest, Ulrika. Besides, t'is in the character of capitalism to create dependent hierarchies and encourage conformity of behavior - both of which encourage the order and predictability capitalism insists is necessary for efficiency and profit. Cannot separate the concept from the character, is what I inferred.

LL may have its own corporate rules, but my reaction to Pathfinder's action does not have to conform to them, because I am a consumer, not an employee or an officer.

Please stop Prokolatizing.

Wow, you went out of your way to take a quote of me out of context from page 2 of this thread for the sole purpose of making a derogatory and inflamatory comment about me? Sheesh.

Well if I knew what it was I'd be able to decide if I could stop it or not. What is it?