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katykiwi Moonflower

Esquirette

Join date: 5 Dec 2003

Posts: 1,489

05-18-2005 11:13

It takes character to post a statement like this, thanks Pathfinder *hugs*

From: Pathfinder Linden

Yes, that was me in the IRC channel.

My comments were not appropriate as a LL employee, and I have been duly warned about this. It is never appropriate for a LL employee to talk about another Resident like that, and I fully understand my mistake and take full responsibility for it.

I want to publically apologize to Prokofy, to LL, and to all the Residents for my improper behavior. I assure you it will never happen again. I know actions speak louder than words, so I hope to prove my sincereness about this from now on in how I conduct myself both here, in SL itself, and on any 3rd party sites.

I have no excuses for my behavior, and will not try to justify my actions in any way. I just hope people believe me when I say that my true desire is to try and keep people focused on positive discussions in the forums and to prevent people from attacking each other. There is so much potential for positively shaping the evolution of SL here, and it saddens me beyond words when I see that rare opportunity wasted.

Please be good to each other

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Ingrid Ingersoll

Archived

Join date: 10 Aug 2004

Posts: 4,601

05-18-2005 11:14

It's a dirty job but someone's got to do it. Chin up Pathfinder!

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Lo Jacobs

Awesome Possum

Join date: 28 May 2004

Posts: 2,734

05-18-2005 11:19

*applause*

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Eggy Lippmann

Wiktator

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 7,939

05-18-2005 11:20

I <3 llPath

You need to realize that the guy actually goes through and reads all the endless pages of drama before locking it. I can't imagine myself doing that.

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Moopf Murray

Moopfmerising

Join date: 7 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,448

05-18-2005 11:21

No, it doesn't really take character, it's just what you have to do to try to build bridges back up again and keep your job when you've crossed a line.

Darkness Anubis

Registered User

Join date: 14 Jun 2004

Posts: 1,628

05-18-2005 11:21

Pathfinder

You are human and as such mistakes happen.

As a former high school teacher I know very well how easy it is to slide unintentionally into this kind of thing (Teacher Lounge Talk LOL). It happens. You apologise and move on.

So straighten your shoulders mon ami and face a new day with a cheerful heart.

Cocoanut Koala

Coco's Cottages

Join date: 7 Feb 2005

Posts: 7,903

05-18-2005 11:22

Pathfinder, please read my posts toward the end of that now-locked thread.

coco

Lash Xevious

Gooberly

Join date: 8 May 2004

Posts: 1,348

05-18-2005 11:22

Lash's lub list:

1. Talen
2. Mahjong
3. Pathfinder
4. Chocolate
5. Frogs
6. Chocolate Frogs
7. Seburo
8. Inquisitor boots
9. Everyone on her calling card list
10. Pie

Nethermind Bliss

Raving Xenophile

Join date: 29 Dec 2004

Posts: 79

05-18-2005 11:24

Yay!

Pass the Cheez-its to Pathfinder. He could use a snack. Goodness knows how many meals he misses reading all this stuff.

Weedy Herbst

Too many parameters

Join date: 5 Aug 2004

Posts: 2,255

05-18-2005 11:25

Hugs Pathfinder

You have a hard job under stressful circumstances.

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Lecktor Hannibal

YOUR MOM

Join date: 1 Jul 2004

Posts: 6,734

05-18-2005 11:27

Thumbs up Path!

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Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

Bikers have more fun than people !

Raudf Fox

(ra-ow-th)

Join date: 25 Feb 2005

Posts: 5,119

05-18-2005 11:27

From: Moopf Murray

No, it doesn't really take character, it's just what you have to do to try to build bridges back up again and keep your job when you've crossed a line.

Be that as it may... At least Path is honest enough to ADMIT a mistake. And frankly, it takes a load of bravery to post something like that AFTER the constant barrage of negative things people have posted. How many of us would have posted a public apology after all that?

Rose Karuna

Lizard Doctor

Join date: 5 Jun 2004

Posts: 3,772

05-18-2005 11:28

Stuff Happens Pathfinder

Take a deep breath, smile and continue on your path.

Don't let it affect your vision of positively shaping the evolution of SL, it will happen, but it is after all, an evolution though at times I'm sure it seems like a revolution.

/**** Hugs - Rose.

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David Valentino

Nicely Wicked

Join date: 1 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,941

05-18-2005 11:29

I agree that Pathfinder has shown, once again, that he is an open, intelligent person that really cares about the forums and Second Life.

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David Lamoreaux

Owner - Perilous Pleasures and Extreme Erotica Gallery

Juro Kothari

Like a dog on a bone

Join date: 4 Sep 2003

Posts: 4,418

05-18-2005 11:29

Nicely done, Pathfinder. Of course, I never thought you needed to apologize, but in doing so, you have shown something that a certain someone on the forums lacks: class.

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StoneSelf Karuna

His Grace

Join date: 13 Jun 2004

Posts: 1,955

05-18-2005 11:31

well done pathfinder.

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MrsJakal Suavage

Purple Butterfly

Join date: 18 Jul 2004

Posts: 1,434

05-18-2005 11:33

**hugs, pathfinder**

MJ

Arcadia Codesmith

Not a guest

Join date: 8 Dec 2004

Posts: 766

05-18-2005 11:34

*Hugs*

It's sad that somebody is forced to apologize for speaking their mind in the wrong place at the wrong time. I like mods who are a little less professional and a little more human.

Dueling Banjo

Some Random Guy

Join date: 9 Jan 2005

Posts: 76

05-18-2005 11:34

Nicely Done Pathfinder!

Moopf Murray

Moopfmerising

Join date: 7 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,448

05-18-2005 11:37

From: Raudf Fox

Be that as it may... At least Path is honest enough to ADMIT a mistake. And frankly, it takes a load of bravery to post something like that AFTER the constant barrage of negative things people have posted. How many of us would have posted a public apology after all that?

With him being warned and causing many people to question what's going on, this is not about him being honest or brave enough to admit a mistake, it's about him having to admit a mistake. Do you think the Lindens would honestly have brushed this under the carpet without making him post such a statement? Such a statement was required for him to still act as forum moderator here, the Lindens know that and so does he. So of course he had to apologise. How he acts from here will determine whether it has had an effect on him or is lip service.

So I can't congratulate him on this because I don't see anything to congratulate him for - this is a requirement for him to continue. I just hope that in future he does stick to his statement and that something like that never happens again. If he does I'm sure this will be well and truly forgotten and everybody will be able to move forward.

Katja Marlowe

Registered User

Join date: 15 Apr 2005

Posts: 421

05-18-2005 11:41

Thank you Pathfinder.

Though, Moopf, (and this is further kudos to you Path), even if he was forced to apologize by LL to remain a moderator, he did a darn good job. He could've just said, yep, sorry. And left it at that. I think he spoke with grace and responsibility to his role as a moderator.

Chip Midnight

ate my baby!

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 10,231

05-18-2005 11:43

Let it go Moopf. You're not doing anything to improve the situation by wagging your finger and rubbing his nose in it.

Thanks for all that you do, Pathfinder. It's a thankless job but please know that your efforts are appreciated greatly!

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www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight

StoneSelf Karuna

His Grace

Join date: 13 Jun 2004

Posts: 1,955

05-18-2005 11:44

From: Moopf Murray

<stuff>

it's an apology, and it acknowledges the error, and he was chastised. he's got a job listening to us kvetch all the time. and he's human. he erred and he's made what ammends he can.

please let it go and let's get on from here.

_____________________

AIDS IS NOT OVER. people are still getting aids. people are still living with aids. people are still dying from aids. please help me raise money for hiv/aids services and research. you can help by making a donation here: http://www.aidslifecycle.org/1409 .

Urusula Zapata

I love my Pugs!

Join date: 20 Mar 2004

Posts: 1,340

05-18-2005 11:45

Good job Pathfinder.

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Get your decorated jeans, shorts and shirts at Jeans & Things by Urusula. Don't forget to check out Lecktor's Crappy T's while you are there. Jeans & Things by Urusula at Healy (190, 247) Shorts and shirts on SLBoutique.

Pendari Lorentz

Senior Member

Join date: 5 Sep 2003

Posts: 4,372

05-18-2005 11:50

*HUGS* Pathfinder!! I too felt you had no need to apologize, but as a resident of this second life I accept your apology!

I for one love that you are a representative of Linden Lab and I too look forward to watching this world evolve and know that it is a richer, better place, because you and so many other wonderful people are in it!

_____________________

*hugs everyone*

HUGS for PATHFINDER
katykiwi Moonflower Esquirette Join date: 5 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,489	05-18-2005 11:13 It takes character to post a statement like this, thanks Pathfinder hugs From: Pathfinder Linden Yes, that was me in the IRC channel. My comments were not appropriate as a LL employee, and I have been duly warned about this. It is never appropriate for a LL employee to talk about another Resident like that, and I fully understand my mistake and take full responsibility for it. I want to publically apologize to Prokofy, to LL, and to all the Residents for my improper behavior. I assure you it will never happen again. I know actions speak louder than words, so I hope to prove my sincereness about this from now on in how I conduct myself both here, in SL itself, and on any 3rd party sites. I have no excuses for my behavior, and will not try to justify my actions in any way. I just hope people believe me when I say that my true desire is to try and keep people focused on positive discussions in the forums and to prevent people from attacking each other. There is so much potential for positively shaping the evolution of SL here, and it saddens me beyond words when I see that rare opportunity wasted. Please be good to each other _____________________
Ingrid Ingersoll Archived Join date: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,601	05-18-2005 11:14 It's a dirty job but someone's got to do it. Chin up Pathfinder! _____________________ http://www.ingrid.0catch.com/1.html
Lo Jacobs Awesome Possum Join date: 28 May 2004 Posts: 2,734	05-18-2005 11:19 applause _____________________ http://churchofluxe.com/Luster
Eggy Lippmann Wiktator Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 7,939	05-18-2005 11:20 I <3 llPath You need to realize that the guy actually goes through and reads all the endless pages of drama before locking it. I can't imagine myself doing that. _____________________ Help us document Second Life history at http://slhistory.org!
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	05-18-2005 11:21 No, it doesn't really take character, it's just what you have to do to try to build bridges back up again and keep your job when you've crossed a line.
Darkness Anubis Registered User Join date: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,628	05-18-2005 11:21 Pathfinder You are human and as such mistakes happen. As a former high school teacher I know very well how easy it is to slide unintentionally into this kind of thing (Teacher Lounge Talk LOL). It happens. You apologise and move on. So straighten your shoulders mon ami and face a new day with a cheerful heart.
Cocoanut Koala Coco's Cottages Join date: 7 Feb 2005 Posts: 7,903	05-18-2005 11:22 Pathfinder, please read my posts toward the end of that now-locked thread. coco
Lash Xevious Gooberly Join date: 8 May 2004 Posts: 1,348	05-18-2005 11:22 Lash's lub list: 1. Talen 2. Mahjong 3. Pathfinder 4. Chocolate 5. Frogs 6. Chocolate Frogs 7. Seburo 8. Inquisitor boots 9. Everyone on her calling card list 10. Pie
Nethermind Bliss Raving Xenophile Join date: 29 Dec 2004 Posts: 79	05-18-2005 11:24 Yay! Pass the Cheez-its to Pathfinder. He could use a snack. Goodness knows how many meals he misses reading all this stuff.
Weedy Herbst Too many parameters Join date: 5 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,255	05-18-2005 11:25 Hugs Pathfinder You have a hard job under stressful circumstances. _____________________
Lecktor Hannibal YOUR MOM Join date: 1 Jul 2004 Posts: 6,734	05-18-2005 11:27 Thumbs up Path! _____________________ YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net ' From: Khamon Fate Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people !
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	05-18-2005 11:27 From: Moopf Murray No, it doesn't really take character, it's just what you have to do to try to build bridges back up again and keep your job when you've crossed a line. Be that as it may... At least Path is honest enough to ADMIT a mistake. And frankly, it takes a load of bravery to post something like that AFTER the constant barrage of negative things people have posted. How many of us would have posted a public apology after all that?
Rose Karuna Lizard Doctor Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,772	05-18-2005 11:28 Stuff Happens Pathfinder Take a deep breath, smile and continue on your path. Don't let it affect your vision of positively shaping the evolution of SL, it will happen, but it is after all, an evolution though at times I'm sure it seems like a revolution. /**** Hugs - Rose. _____________________ I Do Whatever My Rice Krispies Tell Me To
David Valentino Nicely Wicked Join date: 1 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,941	05-18-2005 11:29 I agree that Pathfinder has shown, once again, that he is an open, intelligent person that really cares about the forums and Second Life. _____________________ David Lamoreaux Owner - Perilous Pleasures and Extreme Erotica Gallery
Juro Kothari Like a dog on a bone Join date: 4 Sep 2003 Posts: 4,418	05-18-2005 11:29 Nicely done, Pathfinder. Of course, I never thought you needed to apologize, but in doing so, you have shown something that a certain someone on the forums lacks: class. _____________________
StoneSelf Karuna His Grace Join date: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,955	05-18-2005 11:31 well done pathfinder. _____________________ AIDS IS NOT OVER. people are still getting aids. people are still living with aids. people are still dying from aids. please help me raise money for hiv/aids services and research. you can help by making a donation here: http://www.aidslifecycle.org/1409 .
MrsJakal Suavage Purple Butterfly Join date: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 1,434	05-18-2005 11:33 hugs, pathfinder MJ
Arcadia Codesmith Not a guest Join date: 8 Dec 2004 Posts: 766	05-18-2005 11:34 Hugs It's sad that somebody is forced to apologize for speaking their mind in the wrong place at the wrong time. I like mods who are a little less professional and a little more human.
Dueling Banjo Some Random Guy Join date: 9 Jan 2005 Posts: 76	05-18-2005 11:34 Nicely Done Pathfinder!
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	05-18-2005 11:37 From: Raudf Fox Be that as it may... At least Path is honest enough to ADMIT a mistake. And frankly, it takes a load of bravery to post something like that AFTER the constant barrage of negative things people have posted. How many of us would have posted a public apology after all that? With him being warned and causing many people to question what's going on, this is not about him being honest or brave enough to admit a mistake, it's about him having to admit a mistake. Do you think the Lindens would honestly have brushed this under the carpet without making him post such a statement? Such a statement was required for him to still act as forum moderator here, the Lindens know that and so does he. So of course he had to apologise. How he acts from here will determine whether it has had an effect on him or is lip service. So I can't congratulate him on this because I don't see anything to congratulate him for - this is a requirement for him to continue. I just hope that in future he does stick to his statement and that something like that never happens again. If he does I'm sure this will be well and truly forgotten and everybody will be able to move forward.
Katja Marlowe Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 421	05-18-2005 11:41 Thank you Pathfinder. Though, Moopf, (and this is further kudos to you Path), even if he was forced to apologize by LL to remain a moderator, he did a darn good job. He could've just said, yep, sorry. And left it at that. I think he spoke with grace and responsibility to his role as a moderator.
Chip Midnight ate my baby! Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 10,231	05-18-2005 11:43 Let it go Moopf. You're not doing anything to improve the situation by wagging your finger and rubbing his nose in it. Thanks for all that you do, Pathfinder. It's a thankless job but please know that your efforts are appreciated greatly! _____________________ My other hobby: www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight
StoneSelf Karuna His Grace Join date: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,955	05-18-2005 11:44 From: Moopf Murray <stuff> it's an apology, and it acknowledges the error, and he was chastised. he's got a job listening to us kvetch all the time. and he's human. he erred and he's made what ammends he can. please let it go and let's get on from here. _____________________ AIDS IS NOT OVER. people are still getting aids. people are still living with aids. people are still dying from aids. please help me raise money for hiv/aids services and research. you can help by making a donation here: http://www.aidslifecycle.org/1409 .
Urusula Zapata I love my Pugs! Join date: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 1,340	05-18-2005 11:45 Good job Pathfinder. _____________________ Get your decorated jeans, shorts and shirts at Jeans & Things by Urusula. Don't forget to check out Lecktor's Crappy T's while you are there. Jeans & Things by Urusula at Healy (190, 247) Shorts and shirts on SLBoutique.
Pendari Lorentz Senior Member Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 4,372	05-18-2005 11:50 HUGS Pathfinder!! I too felt you had no need to apologize, but as a resident of this second life I accept your apology! I for one love that you are a representative of Linden Lab and I too look forward to watching this world evolve and know that it is a richer, better place, because you and so many other wonderful people are in it! _____________________ hugs everyone

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