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Minors in SL having Sex. Is it ok?

Chip Midnight
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12-10-2004 13:38
From: Nolan Nash
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Oh sure... it's all fun and games until someone loses a wiener!
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12-10-2004 13:39
From: Beau Perkins
premarital sex is a sin and your all going to hell any ways.

"Premarital" should have its first letter capitalized since it begins the sentence.
"Your" is possesive, and should have been "you're" or "you are".
There is a comma missing after "sin", since this is a compound sentence with two complete sentences contained in it.
"Anyway" should be one word and not plural.
Even if "anyways" was two words, the two word version would be singular since it is "you all" that is the subject.
"Hell" is a proper noun and the first letter should be capitalized.
"Premarital sex" is not a sin, according to the Judeo-Christian religions. "Adultery" is. Adultery is when a married person has sex with someone other than their spouse.

I really hope you were being facetious and not fascist.
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12-10-2004 13:41
From: Chip Midnight
Oh sure... it's all fun and games until someone loses an wiener!



Hehehehe

I will say *hi* to Oscar Mayer for you. All those poor cattle without wieners!
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12-10-2004 13:45
From: Hiro Pendragon
"Hell" is a proper noun and the first letter should be capitalized.


Hmm, not sure about that. What about people saying, "What the hell?"

Would the proper thing to say be, "What the Hell?"

And what about "Godammit!" or perhaps it would be "God damn It!" or maybe "God damn it."

I don't know, (G)goddammit. :D
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12-10-2004 13:48
From: Chip Midnight
Oh sure... it's all fun and games until someone loses a wiener!


LOL! Thank you sig addition! :D
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12-10-2004 14:17
From: Pendari Lorentz
LOL! Thank you sig addition! :D


WOOT! :D
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Oz Spade
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12-10-2004 17:14
I didn't go through all the posts here. But what about avatar sex on the teen grid? Or prostitution rings like those that were seen in TSO?

I think it'd be wise to not allow either, for legal and PR reasons, and to restrict the sim ratings to PG and maybe a new PG-13 (to allow minor cursing).

Last thing SL needs is to be on CNN for 13 year old prostitution rings on the teen grid.
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Torley Linden
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12-10-2004 17:36
From: Oz Spade
I didn't go through all the posts here. But what about avatar sex on the teen grid? Or prostitution rings like those that were seen in TSO?

I think it'd be wise to not allow either, for legal and PR reasons, and to restrict the sim ratings to PG and maybe a new PG-13 (to allow minor cursing).

Last thing SL needs is to be on CNN for 13 year old prostitution rings on the teen grid.


Oz, you've already made Snow Crash.

Here's another word to get ya thinking...

DENTATA! :)
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12-10-2004 19:53
From: Torley Torgeson
DENTATA! :)


OMG! :eek:
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Susie Boffin
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12-10-2004 20:36
Some of you people have me laughing myself silly! Do you really think that teens having sex in SL will promote real life sex? If you do I applaud you on the power you grant Second Life.
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12-10-2004 21:08
Actualy, would you say that kids are not influenced by media?

Thats not to say that every kid would go and have sex after playing SL. But most children are influenced by what they see in some forms. Look at all the influences major media figures have had on them (most notably music, television and movies). You'd be a fool to think children aren't influenced in some form by this type of thing.

Despite wether that actualy happens or not, children having sex in virtual forms is still bad tabu in the eyes of the major populace (i.e. the TSO Prostitution scandal, which Maxis took alot of heat for). Having a virtual world in which children are allowed to go around having sex isn't going to go over well at all.

Torley, Dentata's would be good! But it seems that SL is more sex based and I'd not make that much as most people *want* to have sex. :P
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12-10-2004 21:10
From: Susie Boffin
Some of you people have me laughing myself silly! Do you really think that teens having sex in SL will promote real life sex? If you do I applaud you on the power you grant Second Life.

I don't see that anyone has said this. Can you quote where someone did?
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Chibi Chang
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12-11-2004 05:15
From: Catherine Cotton
Nolan I can only speak for myself. LL said they will group them in 13-17 year olds The thought of a 13 year old with a 17 year old is wrong to me. (14 year old with an 18 year old not a hell of a lot of differnce there age wise)

Also blake didn't make it clear if it was ok to have sex with a teen on the main grid with adults or on a kiddie grid. So for me at least "worst case" he might of ment adults with kids. Of course that is not ok.

Cat


My first girlfreind was 13 when I was 16, if I remember correctly. :P By god, if I'd have stayed with her she could have made me into a pedophile! D:
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12-11-2004 06:27
I don't have children of my own but do have several nephews/nieces and I am godmother to several children.

It is probably impossible to stop teenagers from experimenting or having sex these days. I think all you can do as parents, is to talk to them about having self respect and getting to know the other person before they have sex, not just doing it without any thought. And also, making sure they use some sort of protection.

It didn't happen very much when i was young, and although you may want to say no it shouldn't happen now, it's not realistic in the current climate.

As for sex on SL, I really don't think that's appropriate for teens, since they can never know the person behind the av. Who knows what or who they are? Well I guess that question applies to the adults too :)

I'm interested to know why Blake asked this question?

Alexa
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12-11-2004 07:49
From: Catherine Cotton
Ace the big deal is it is a breeding ground for petafiles

Cat


I've taught my kids safe internetworking. My rules are "no real names and no location". They understand why the rules are such, and they gladly follow them.

So what exactly am I supposed to be worrying about here, Cat?

- Ace

P.S. Petafile sounds like a database for radical animal lovers.
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12-11-2004 07:52
PETAphiles? Now that is scary. If SL turned my daughter into a medical research lab bomber, I'd be peeved!
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12-11-2004 13:19
From: Alexa Hope
I don't have children of my own but do have several nephews/nieces and I am godmother to several children.

It is probably impossible to stop teenagers from experimenting or having sex these days. I think all you can do as parents, is to talk to them about having self respect and getting to know the other person before they have sex, not just doing it without any thought. And also, making sure they use some sort of protection.

It didn't happen very much when i was young, and although you may want to say no it shouldn't happen now, it's not realistic in the current climate.

As for sex on SL, I really don't think that's appropriate for teens, since they can never know the person behind the av. Who knows what or who they are? Well I guess that question applies to the adults too :)

I'm interested to know why Blake asked this question?

Alexa


You said it in a nutshell...weather they are a teen or an adult..you never really know if they are one or the other either way, regardless of weather they are on the Teen Grid or the Adult Grid. There is no clean cut answer to this issue. Im not voicing my opinion either way, that's why I made this Poll to get your opinions. As you can see..one can argue good and bad points either way.

The issue of Adults monitoring their children and authorities stepping in..you can see where we are headed..it's not like the old days where the old saying goes "Don't Spare the Rod." with your child..because now of which some call extremists have taken away the rights of the parents to discipline their children with a belt or anything that causes physical pain, they may be arrested. My point on that is..how far will minors rights go? Before you know it kids are gonna be sueing their parents in a Court of Law for violations of their rights and it has probably already happened. Im not agreeing that physical pain to a child for discipline is ok or not and this is another topic. But I was disciplined with a "Belt" as a child and when I did not do what my parents said..the correlation of Pain and disipline was instilled in my brain.

Yes there are other ways to disipline ones child..for example, make them stay in their room or no TV or Play priviledges..is that going to stop them? I think not..they can slip out the Window..they can turn on a TV in their room when the parent isn't around unless the parent takes the TV out, they can use the phone unless they take that out..if they have a Cell Phone they can use that and or hide it from their parents if they ask for it. They cannot escape a whipping, only if they run away permanently. Then the question of what is abuse arises and how it is defined. Is there any wonder why we have the highest Pregnancy rate in the world? Is there any wonder why we have the highest Crime rate in the world? Because we have oppressed ourselves to a point where the minor is going to have just as many rights as an adult by law. Lock your kid in a room? Next you may be in Court for Child imprisonment. Where will it stop and what should be the limits?

There are so many issues that can be debated as to why all this is happening and what is right. Some may have children that listen to them because they are heavily monitored as to whom they let them associate with to protect them from Pier Pressure from other children that parents have trouble controlling because of fear of being prosecuted by law.
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12-11-2004 20:48
From: Blake Rockwell

Yes there are other ways to disipline ones child..for example, make them stay in their room or no TV or Play priviledges..is that going to stop them? I think not..

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Because we have oppressed ourselves to a point where the minor is going to have just as many rights as an adult by law. Lock your kid in a room? Next you may be in Court for Child imprisonment. Where will it stop and what should be the limits?

I hate to break it to you, but plenty of parents can keep their kids from sneaking out and defying them without locking them in their room.

I may take some heat for saying this, but I think that if your kid sneaks around you, then you have not established trust with your children. If you don't have that trust, how can you expect to keep your child safe?

edit: p.s. - I will never let my (hypothetical) children have a TV in their room.
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12-11-2004 23:27
Blake

I personally don't think physical violence is the only way to deal with children. When I was a child in the late 1940s and 50s I was never hit by my parents. If I did something wrong they would sit me down and explain why what I did was unacceptable behaviour and it worked for me. I was occasionally sent to my room, but then the only TV was an 8inch black and white in the living room. Nor, of course, were there computers or mobile phones or video games or a million and one things that children have today.

Obviously times have changed a lot, but still I think being hit with a belt by one of your parents was too much. I am interested in know whether you perpetrate that by hitting your children?

Alexa
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12-12-2004 12:07
From: Hiro Pendragon
I hate to break it to you, but plenty of parents can keep their kids from sneaking out and defying them without locking them in their room.

I may take some heat for saying this, but I think that if your kid sneaks around you, then you have not established trust with your children. If you don't have that trust, how can you expect to keep your child safe?

edit: p.s. - I will never let my (hypothetical) children have a TV in their room.


I agree :)

I don't want to hit my (hypothetical) kids either when disciplining them. No thanks. I got spanked when I was a child and it was completely humiliating. Did it keep me from doing things that would get me spanked? .... no, not really. I just got better at covering up ;)
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12-12-2004 12:16
This is a ridiculius poll.

They are going to do it, and I suspect LL is going to have a full blown nightmare on their hands trying to police it.

Lets also not forget that this exact sort of thing is (and has been!) going on in every virtual world ever invented.

LL is going to obviously have to curtail such behavior as much as possible, but they wont catch it all. It's going to happen and I am simply glad I wont be the one assigned to police duty LOL

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12-12-2004 13:28
From: Alexa Hope
Blake

I personally don't think physical violence is the only way to deal with children. When I was a child in the late 1940s and 50s I was never hit by my parents. If I did something wrong they would sit me down and explain why what I did was unacceptable behaviour and it worked for me. I was occasionally sent to my room, but then the only TV was an 8inch black and white in the living room. Nor, of course, were there computers or mobile phones or video games or a million and one things that children have today.

Obviously times have changed a lot, but still I think being hit with a belt by one of your parents was too much. I am interested in know whether you perpetrate that by hitting your children?

Alexa


Then obviously you had the comprehension of relating to what your parents told you and understood and obeyed your parents. Not all kids do this. I do not have kids myself. But I can tell you, I was under tremendous Pier Pressure from others to Steal..to do Crimes, join Gangs take Drugs, luckily I made it through it and had enough sense to start avoiding these type of friends, not all kids do. Some kids don't get the attention nor listen to their parents like you did. Different kids react to different types of discipline as do adults. I was whipped on my ass 2 or 3 times..I did not have bruises. I may have had a red mark of course..but I do not blame my parents for me being mischievious and disobeying what they said at times. There again..anything can be taken out of prospective.."Physical Violence" you make it sound "extreme" oh..there's that ever so popular word again. I do not feel I was abused. I had no scares or physical or mental marks from being disciplined with a belt. And if I wasn't disciplined in that manner..as for myself..I would probably be in Prison to this day. Not every kid grows up in a "Leave it to Beaver" or "Ozzy and Harriot" neighborhood.

Obviously you did not talk back to your parents either..you listened and obeyed. Sure my parents told me things were wrong..that didn't work. Two of my other best friends parents did not whip their children and grew up in the same neighborhood..both are Convicts and alcholics. Im probably correct in assuming you also are agaisn't the Death Penalty as well. There is a difference in knowing what level of discipline one needs for the misbehavior or crime involved. There is also difference in knowing what is child abuse and what is simple discipline in regards to physcially beating someone and simply making them feel a sting on their rear end. Some parents just don't know the limit..nor can control themselves. You discipline your child as you see fit. Don't assume that my parents abused me..because they did not. Different kids in different atomospheres with different mental capacitys respond to discipline in different ways just as criminals do.

Do not compare your child with others..with some kids they understand and obey with simple lectures..with some they do not..with some..you spare the rod you spoil the child. Just look around at reality and society. Try talking to a Terrorist and try lecturing to them that what they are doing is wrong. Again it stems from the atomosphere they grew up in.
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