Ugh

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You're right Prok. It's a damn shame that being over 90 days old you wouldn't be allowed on Cabinhead. It's obvious how desperately you need classes in the basics.

Exactly, which helps the sim owner how?

If he doesn't want you on his sim, push is NOT the answer. There has to be a way to get people off your island sim that you don't want there.

1. One evening as the sun went down
And the jungle fires were burning,
Down the track came a hobo hiking,
He said, "Boys, I'm not turning
I'm heading for a land that's far away
Beside the crystal fountain
I'll see you all this coming fall
In the Big Rock Candy Mountain
Chorus:

2. In the Big Rock Candy Mountain,
It's a land that's fair and bright,
The handouts grow on bushes
And you sleep out every night.
The boxcars all are empty
And the sun shines every day
I'm bound to go
Where there ain't no snow
Where the sleet don't fall
And the winds don't blow
In the Big Rock Candy Mountain.
Chorus:

3. In the Big Rock Candy Mountain
You never change your socks
And little streams of alkyhol
Come trickling down the rocks
O the shacks all have to tip their hats
And the railway bulls are blind
There's a lake of stew
And gingerale too
And you can paddle
All around it in a big canoe
In the Big Rock Candy Mountain
Chorus:

4. In the Big Rock Candy Mountain
The cops have wooden legs
The bulldogs all have rubber teeth
And the hens lay soft-boiled eggs
The farmer's trees are full of fruit
And the barns are full of hay
I'm bound to go
Where there ain't no snow
Where the sleet don't fall
And the winds don't blow
In the Big Rock Candy Mountain.
Chorus:

5. In the Big Rock Candy Mountain,
The jails are made of tin.
You can slip right out again,
As soon as they put you in.
There ain't no short-handled shovels,
No axes, saws nor picks,
I'm bound to stay
Where you sleep all day,
Where they hung the jerk
That invented work
In the Big Rock Candy Mountain.
Chorus:

I've heard tale that the Lindens themselves have an uber-secret private sim called Orientation Island. Not only do they not allow anyone there but newbies, but once you've left, they punish you and outcast you by never allowing you back! The OUTRAGE!

How can they get away with this? Peasants, rise up against the elitist tyranny! Demand that anyone be allowed in an area created with the sole intention of assisting Newbies! How dare they restrict us non Newbies from Newbie land!

No, you are not bouncing 'a bit away' you are bouncing 'around inside' that private sim. Do you really not understand that concept, or are you faking being that stupid to prove a point?

Ima git me summa dat rock candy!

I would rather be bounced around on the edge of a Sim than teleported home. Plus, I don't think (I'm not sure, though) that a bouncing-around griefer can do much in the way of griefing, or shooting, or whatever.

coco

Now address the first part of that post that you 'accidentally' skipped over, please. I'll repost it so as not to confuse.
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"You do realize that in the very post you quoted at the beginning of this thread, it stated the intent to warn before ejecting, don't you?


Quote:
The security system as written gave users older than 90 days 5 minutes warning before sending them home. It gave removed users 2 warnings to leave, and a 30 second lead time. It was more than accommodating as far as giving users a chance to leave on their own.

Usually push scripts on private islands cause you to bounce on the edge of the sim, and when you try to teleport away it doesn't let you... which then leads to a crash or you having to relog, which then leads you to logging in at home.

I've had it happen to me, and it was a very unpleasant experience. I wish they had just teleported me home, and I could have been on my way in 10 seconds rather than 5 minutes.

Yeah, they can. First, it's possible to fly up over that range, giving back control of the av. Then thier greifing can cantinue otherwise unabated. Second, even if they can't fly, they can still rez all kinds of nasty, shout obscenities, make sounds...

Teleporting folks of the island is pretty much the only availalbe anti-greifer weapon a private island owner has.

No, usually push scripts or bans cause you to bounce on the edge of the sim, so you leave by teleporting away. I've never had that crash my game. What crashes my game is the ejection all the way home.



This isn't what most people experience, and they clamor for the removal of this teleport home function whch causes so much grief and anger, and the Lindens, in their wisdom, are now finally going to consider getting rid of it.

They can just come back on alts, and often do. You don't have a solution. YOu have a nuisance to everyone else.

That is not a solution. Not to mention the fact that Prokofy was against push scripts before he started this highly suspect thread.

There needs to be a proper way (not bouncing people around in the sim's seam), to remove unwanted avatars.

Many times when stuck in a seam, you have to relog to fix it. Just like when you get crashed by TP home. Then the undesired av probably reappears in your sim AGAIN after they log in, and the whole silly cycle starts again. So tell me, how is this a solution?

This thread is not really about the TP home function anyway, it's just another obvious attempt by Prokofy to smear Cabinhead.

sure you can.. just set your camera on the ground.

i've crashed more from bouncing than from teleporting.

I see, Liane. That would be a definite problem.

coco

Ohhhh, gods! If only they would listen to the other tide of grief and anger! If only they would entertain those clamoring for the removal of bombastic nitwits (the generic category, and not any particular person)!

No one is asking the opinions of the most critical person in this discussion. Why? I mean, what, we're not adults, here?

I'm going to be the one who asks, and shame on all of you for not being the first to do so.

Pony Linden, what say you?

You may have not, but I have. It happened to me frequently in Enceladus - a neighbor had an overzealous security script that would push me into the seam between Atlas and Janus, where I would bounce around until I relogged. Besides, you want push eradicated from SL anyway, or you did before it fit your argument here.

As I said, there is little I hate more than being teleported home when it wasn't my idea to go home. And for no reason, I might add.

However, private islands need some way. In TSO, it was a simple matter to boot anyone you wanted out of your property, and then to ban and mute them as well if you were so inclined.

As to the other part of this thread, I don't like this Cabinhead thing one bit anyway. Apparently they are planning on getting the best scripters, builders, etc., to teach the best classes, except that I won't be allowed to go to them.

And just anyone won't be allowed to teach them, either - just friends of friends. It's all too in-groupy to be anything but abhorent to me.

And as far as "going in lockstep" with anyone, far from doing that, I think actually I have such an independent mind as most of you have never encountered before, and you just don't know what to make of it.

coco

if you don't like it, come up with something better.

no one is stopping you from coming up with a better idea.

I don't have to "come up with something better" to know when people are being mean.

I can give suggestions for making it better, though.

coco

You're absolutely right about this, Cocoanut.

Private individuals using private funds to provide private help to other private citizens have no right to do and must be stopped at once. It is unacceptable to allow people to do as they wish, with only those with whom they wish to do it. This wild, runaway use of free will must be crushed, immediately, lest it infect and pervade all of Second Life.

Let us not rest until every man and woman of Second Life does only as the committee allows! Let us put an end to self-determination! Let these social networkers be pushed in the borders of simulators, but not teleported home, for that is griefy! Repent!

Faking being stupid - as you can see now the M.O. - someone who would rather appear to be ignorant than wrong..

And when those pesky facts show up (god knows how they get in the way of good whine or conspiracy theory) they can switch back to *nearly* the same argument and continue or say 'ooh my bad - I misunderstood! sorry!' depending on how likely they are to be spotted...

Same shit - different post - nothing to see here.... If it were raining linden dollars on the mainland not only would they bitch that one hit their av, but it would be part of an upper echelon conspiracy to devalue their land..

Siggy.

Prok,

Can you please stop your attacking, hypochondriac, nay-saying diatribe, or will we have to get you and your alts suspended again?

Seriously, for all your endless whining about how newbies are abused, YOU DARE attack a project designed to help out newbies?

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