Ugh

Just in case you all missed this in "Features" discussion where it could be buried in technical discussions, I want to make sure everyone sees this "lovely" plan for Cabinhead.

Imagine! The aggressive bounce script, the script everyone hates, the unnecessary function of sending people all the way home just because they are exploring, and this to be used on an area for newbies as a "security device"!!!!!!!

SHAME ON YOU!!!!

There are days when you not only want to quit this game, you want to take out a full page in the New York Times urging others to quit it, it is so malicious.

There's absolutely no thought in any of these people's heads about users who join, but then get busy, and don't log on but still age. I see that quite commonly. So that means someone coming back to check out SL will not only be banned from SL's premier "new user experience", they'll have the nasty "bounce home" experience that everyone hates, and which so harms especially new people and makes them hurt from this game.

Lee Linden himself has recommended that these scripts not only give warning, but that they not teleport home. Lindens are actively considering removing this function from the game completely! As rightly they should!

All the tekkies are leaping to the defense of this pernicious script now so I urge everyone who has a shred of concern to go over and sound off against these scripts in the "Features" forum.

The gall, of one group of players setting up an island like this, not only to funnel newbies into their own reputation and economic circuits, but to create this nasty experience for "non-newbies". Obviously they'll put all their own "greeters and mentors" on the admit list and force everybody else who might like to meet a newbie or help out to be bounced back home.

Honestly, I'm just about speechless with anger over this one and I implore the Lindens to do something about it.

In a way, I suppose it is a good thing because it reveals the true nature of people willing to aggressively bounce and send everybody home, even crashing their games, just to keep their hammerlock on SL.

Bleh.

Bears repeating.

Geez, you two have your Prokofy post scanner bracelets on again!

There is no TOS violation in my remarks. I said there are days when you feel like quitting or telling others to quit -- that is a common remark on here as people find various frustrations in the game. That doesn't mean that you quit, and I certainly didn't.

I just wish to express my resolute indignation and outrage over the plans to use a bounce script that will aggressively bounce avatars all the way home -- something that the FIC have been misleadingly claiming that they in fact oppose in other threads.

Ugh.

I don't have any knickers in a twist over this project, I merely criticize their attempt to funnel newbies and any Linden endorsement of their project as a form of favourtism. I don't lack of newbies, there are plenty to go around and everyone can pitch in.

I am right to criticize this aggressive security system and this filtration of people into a system that benefits a few economically and constitutes an attempt to put throttles on the game.

I'm not at all worried about the success of this project because if they continue in this manner and behave so aggressively with people, all those newbies who bought accounts and who then didn't play but aged, who get the nasty experience of being av bounced, will simply draw their own conclusions and go elsewhere.

Indeed, my poll showed that most people gave official welcome programs and areas a wide berth anyways.

My issue remains the mistreatment of people in this game, especially by tekkies, especially with the cloying embrace of the medieval guild, especially with ugly nasty bounce scripts.

Ugh.

This thread is comedy gold.

I, too, don't like this one bit.

coco

oh, stop dude, come on. you're making my abdominal muscles sore

come on now.

What's wrong with warning someone and then bouncing them off your land?

Never have I been more depressed by the words 'just about'....

It's a private island - they can admit who they like - in this case it's people who have been here x amount of days....

It wouldn't be any different if it were 'people who like ice cream'....

You can get as angry as you like about it, until someone dies and makes you god it's not your call as to who they can let on their land... get over it.


Siggy.

And everyone else in the world who falls under the catagory of 'not you'

Honestly I think your just pissed you didn't think of it first

uh huh...

The Lindens have heard -- and understood -- enough complaints about these aggressive scripts that they are now contemplating removing some of their features from the game. Good for them!

But instead of thinking about quality of life and personal enjoyment of the game for those outside the scripterati set, once again, all you can think of is your self interests. It's astounding!

Oh, this is now about "removing someone from my land" is it? I thought this was supposed to be the "welcome area for newbies" and "the place where everyone can come to help newbies."

Instead, it sounds like it will be about as ethnically cleansed as Srebrenica. Shame on all of you, honestly, you can't see yourselves, it really is repugnant.

No one should have to have that experience of being bounced home just because they came to a newbie island. Read the threads about how much people hate being bounced, how much they hate this aggressiveness.

THAT is the face of the game you want to show to the world? THAT? Are you nuts?

Cabinhead is not the first, and surely not the last group endeavoring to help newbies.

Your agenda based upon paranoid assumptions and your dislike of certain individuals and groups because they disagree with your frenetic, hyperbolic posts on the forums is glaringly evident.

You would like people to believe that you are always doing something for the good of all. You constantly speak for 1000s of other people, as some sort of smokescreen to further your personal agendas and vendettas.

Yes, it's that apparent.

Prokofy,

The levels of your feigned obtuseness so that you can take a swipe at a project you have had a hard on about from day one is nothing short of pathetic. I swear you don't even read the stuff that you write - if you did, you would see how ridiculous it sounds. The 90 day newbie plan is hardly outrageous - are you bashing Anshe for having plots restricted that only newbies of a certain age can buy, or money tree owners that only give out money to newbies of a certain age? No, because you speak out of every orifice in your body.

That has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the security system that was designed to protect those on the island from griefing. As private island tools are also woefully inadequate from properly handling banning and griefing, teleport home is used to remove someone after banning them - since banning does not remove them from the sim - they get into some strange loop since there is no sim to push them out of. I am glad you are obviously in favor of newbies being griefed at events.

Even someone with a limited amount of intelligence could tell the two isses apart - but given that you don't seem to understand two completely disparate concepts, I am not sure what that says about your intelligence. Then again, a button confuses you, so who knows. As usual, there is nothing to see here. Why do you squander what little credibility you have left on such inane bullshit? This is such an obvious troll, it is not even funny.

How pray tell, do you expect private island sim owners and groups to remove griefers from their property with out teleport home? Another function?

Cabinhead aside, this does present a REAL issue for how private sims will be able to (or not be able to) deal with griefers.

Best sentence in forums in days. Awesome

Talk about your ironic statements, that is priceless! Thank you, along with the learning curve of the button, that is some really funny stuff there Prokofy.

I'm protesting the use of weapons on people who merely wish to go to a newbie island but who happen to be older than 90 days. That is my right. Scores of people have been raising the really severe issues with these bounce scripts for months!

This is an absolutely necessity. It's about the heart of the game. Whether it gets to be taken over by aggressive jackasses who funnel everybody out and just let their friends and trusted networks function to suck up newbies, or whether this remains a friendly and open place where people can enter at a range of levels and interests.

I cannot BELIEVE the Lindens will allow this to happen -- to use bounce scripts to force avatars home on this newbie island! What an outrage!

It just goes beyond sense and reason.

If this is an issue that little weenie informants and fanboyz can go push their little red buttons over to get me warned or banned, I can only be utterly proud of having taken up the issue of victims of bounce scripts because I know that there are thousands of people in the game who understand exactly how nasty bounce scripts are, how hate them, who protest against them, and who will not understand why one very privileged and select group of older players gets to capture the newbie stream using them.

Shame on you.

Ok Coco, what don't you like? The fact that the private island had a security system in place that could teleport someone home if they were disrupting classes, since there is no ability to actually eject someone completely from a private island? What is the alternative, to let them stay there and grief away. Talk about not liking something one bit. You wonder why people criticize you for being in lock step with Prokofy, it's because you agree with a post that is so inflammatory and just flat out wrong that it is laughable.

Profoky... How do you, in your infinite wisdom, suggest Private Sim owners remove someone from their land without that function?

I'd just like a clear answer without all the arm waving and bullshit.

I'm a little confused...

Why do you care? What business is it of yours? How is it hurting you?

Were you hoping to commune with the newbies or something? Vulture around soliciting their rental business?

I agree with the problem about not getting people off a private island.

That would apply to griefers, though. Not ordinary people. Not allowing ordinary people on the island is one of the things I object to.

The other is that I hate cliques. And elitists. And closed little societies.

You asked.

coco

Sooooo... They should not be able to do what they want on the island they're paying L$200 for?

Damn those snobby people less than 90 days old!

What a shocker!