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Taliban Bijoux
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04-05-2005 18:10
From: Sox Rampal
You don't like furries?

keep away from them.

Their actions break the TOS? their actions break laws?

Report them

Whats funny in your opinion is,at the end of the day,not funny to others.Personally I've never even heard of your group in game so you cant be that bad, BUT.

Ever heard the phrase 'Beyond a Joke'?

When your taking your 'jokes' and imposing them on others univited then your skirting the borders of griefing because maybe,just maybe, you are not welcome at that particular place at that particular time.

You think your funny? Why not put on shows and invite people over, afraid nobody will turn up?Then perhaps you are not as funny as you think.


Seig Heil!

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Sox Rampal
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04-05-2005 18:36


Actually if you go read up on Facism you'll see that it was fundamentally repressive and imposed its views on other people - not unlike yourself really.

From: someone
I've never even heard of your group in game so you cant be that bad


Oh and forget I ever mentioned that.
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Taliban Bijoux
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04-05-2005 18:37
From: Sox Rampal
Actually if you go read up on Facism you'll see that it was fundamentally repressive and imposed its views on other people - not unlike yourself really.


EDIT: In literal terms this is correct but the pejorative nature of this understanding arises from a false concept of its usage.

2nd EDIT: Listening to Crescendolls by Daft Punk right now that's such an awesome song. :cool:
Tikki Kerensky
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04-05-2005 18:41
From: Nauv DeFarge
Shut up Alex you don't know what we go through every day, damn mundane.


I do. She's absolutely right.
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CrystalShard Foo
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04-05-2005 21:02


Tali... you probebly dont give a [blip], but i'm a jew, and I live in Israel, and comparing what I just said to THAT is definetly offensive.

I advise that you take a clue and start to post contributing information rather then just sit and find ways to piss people off, thus undermining the entire effort of the person who started this thread.

Additionaly, do note that I did not attacking W-Hat. I see no reason to attack me for what I posted with offensive material.

Use your brain. I know you have some braincells left. Maybe if you rub a neuron or two you'll get a reaction going.
Taliban Bijoux
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04-05-2005 21:10
From: CrystalShard Foo
Tali... you probebly dont give a [blip], but i'm a jew, and I live in Israel, and comparing what I just said to THAT is definetly offensive.

I advise that you take a clue and start to post contributing information rather then just sit and find ways to piss people off, thus undermining the entire effort of the person who started this thread.

Additionaly, do note that I did not attacking W-Hat. I see no reason to attack me for what I posted with offensive material.

Use your brain. I know you have some braincells left. Maybe if you rub a neuron or two you'll get a reaction going.



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Jeska Linden
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04-05-2005 21:46
This thread has been repeatedly warned against posting intolerant language and personal attacks. This is the final warning. I have edited the recent intolerant attacks, please stop posting personal attacks against those you do not agree with.
David Valentino
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04-06-2005 07:00
From: Alexandra DeFarge
Pathfinder - I disagree with your decision to edit my entire post rather than to take the offending section out. The point remains that the things I mentioned in my previous post ARE an aspect of the furry fandom and DO happen all over the internet, including without a doubt SL. I am curious though as to why you neglected to mention the other edited-out nastiness that the furry fandom attempts to make more palatable? I have seen both of those things defended by furries on and off of SL as have other individuals.



I am curious why you would care what Furries do? Envy maybe?
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Adohan Zephyr
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04-06-2005 13:56
From: David Valentino
I am curious why you would care what Furries do? Envy maybe?



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04-06-2005 14:05
From: David Valentino
I am curious why you would care what Furries do? Envy maybe?
Half of us ARE furry.
David Valentino
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04-06-2005 14:18
From: Huns Valen
Half of us ARE furry.



That may be so..but that doesn't answer my question as to why Alexandra would care what Furries do....

He/she seemed to want to get the point across that most are perverts...
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04-06-2005 14:21
It was more a "for the record" type statement. It seems a lot of people think W-Hat is intrinsically anti-furry, which is just not so.
David Valentino
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04-06-2005 14:28
From: Huns Valen
It was more a "for the record" type statement. It seems a lot of people think W-Hat is intrinsically anti-furry, which is just not so.



Well..it was indeed a statement by Alex that was stating his/her opinion, and that opinion was definitely anti-furry. So, again, I was wondering why? Why not just go about his business and ignore them as long as they don't hassle him? Is it a matter of religious belief? Bigotry? Hatred? Intolerance? Bully-syndrome? Low self-esteem?
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katykiwi Moonflower
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04-06-2005 15:00
From: Bruno Buckenburger
It sounds like you are downplaying the true nature of the exposed pictures. Anytime someone claims "NO pictures" (my caps) but then includes disclaimers such as, "except for a series of 3 small pictures..." one wonders just how big the pictures started out as before the legend was passed down.

More disturbing is the mixed message of ,"...pictures were children who had suffered or been injured..." but BTW, "...the pictures themselves were not that bad..."

I'm glad LL had them removed. Everyone wants a waiver for their cause and if they do something wrong they want to blame someone else for not being punished rather than accept responsibility. Rather ironic when you look at the gallery material and then the subsequent whining when Linden did their job.

It is no legend. I was there. I saw them.

If you are going to quote, do not omit portions of the sentence in order to twist or change the meaning of the statement. The statement I made was:

"Although the subject is horrifying to contemplate, the pictures themselves were not that bad with the blood and gore element." The caveat and clarification contained in my statement strongly distingushes it from the recast you presented.

Since you completly changed my statement, and added your own words, it is improper to present that comment in quotations attributed to me. You made that up, which is kind of like lying, isn't it?

That is sad that you equate pictures of injured children with mature content such as pornography, and think removal was proper. I guess you missed my point that the concern was uneven CS enforcement.
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Alexandra DeFarge
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04-06-2005 18:11
From: David Valentino
Well..it was indeed a statement by Alex that was stating his/her opinion, and that opinion was definitely anti-furry. So, again, I was wondering why? Why not just go about his business and ignore them as long as they don't hassle him? Is it a matter of religious belief? Bigotry? Hatred? Intolerance? Bully-syndrome? Low self-esteem?


It's her business, and hassle her. :)

If you go back and read my posts, or had the chance to see them before Pathfinder removed them. You will find that I am not entirely anti-furry. I do not mind 'regular' furries - the variety that are very casual in their furry-fandom and who can laugh at themselves and be like "yeah, I'm furry - so what". You find a few of those sort in W-Hat and elsewhere. I have zero problem with those furries. I even like some of them!

The furries I have a problem with are the furries who scream "FURSECUTION" at the drop of a hat. The furries that can't laugh at themselves, the furries that you can't even smirk at without them leaping into hysterics and cries of fascism or nazi Germany.

The furries that have the gall to compare "their struggle for equality" with the struggles that gay, lesbian and transgendered individuals face or the ones that claim 'Furry rights are the next big thing after gays and lesbians', the furries that insist that everything bad that happens to them in society is because 'society is bigotted against furries' - these people all irritate me. Free clue to the abovementioned types of furries: Society has a lot more to worry about on the equality scale before a bunch of nerds who like to wear ears and tails. How about starting with equal pay for equal work when it comes to men and women, when it comes to white, black, yellow, red or whatever? I think those hold a little bit more gravity than any 'fursecution' furries have ever faced. If anything makes me angry about furry fandom, that's it - I'd say that's pretty fair, no?

The aspect of furry-fandom that I have the most serious of issues with is nothing that I can post about on this board. My posts when I mentioned them before were removed claiming that they were a 'personal attack' when I simply questioned whether or not furry fandom was repackaging of two morally abhorent sexual behaviors. Even the most hardened pervert among us would agree that there are certain lines that you do not cross - and it is my opinion that furry fandom as a whole is simply trying to present these two things as palatable and unoffensive. If you are curious as to the specifics, feel free to IM me in world and I can clarify.

The problem is though, that there are a lot more idiot furries who think that any 'mistreatment' they get is because of their furriness and that can't see the forest thru the trees when the morally ambiguous aspects of the fandom are mentioned or questioned.

That is the most succinct way to express part of my issue with furry fandom.
Alexandra DeFarge
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04-09-2005 23:48
You know, I didn't even have to look hard for proof of my statements that were removed by Pathfinder. I went to The Forest because I heard that someone was selling a cop-uniform in the store there.

The story goes on to describe in graphic detail some things that if I mention here, I will probably get a ban for! Essentially, it involves a dog and a woman doing things that well... that the furries on SL say they don't believe in and/or support. How does that statement hold water when there is a vendor like this?

I don't mind porn, I don't mind sexuality- however I DO mind the exploitation of animals.

Attachment has been censored slightly in the interest of other people's privacy.
Ryen Jade
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04-10-2005 09:01
Wow....just, wow.
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Between you, Ryen the twerp and Ardith, there's little to change my opinion here.. rather you have reinforced it each in your own ways


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Nora Belvedere
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04-10-2005 09:48
From: Alexandra DeFarge
You know, I didn't even have to look hard for proof of my statements that were removed by Pathfinder. I went to The Forest because I heard that someone was selling a cop-uniform in the store there.

The story goes on to describe in graphic detail some things that if I mention here, I will probably get a ban for! Essentially, it involves a dog and a woman doing things that well... that the furries on SL say they don't believe in and/or support. How does that statement hold water when there is a vendor like this?

I don't mind porn, I don't mind sexuality- however I DO mind the exploitation of animals.

Attachment has been censored slightly in the interest of other people's privacy.


While I'm not a furry, your basic arguement seems to be that because some furries are in to beastiality, then all furries are bad.

I could make the same arguement that because some heterosexuals or homosexuals are pedophiles, then all heterosexuals or homosexuals are bad. You're nit-picking in an incredibly dumb way just because you're angry that someone edited your post.

You're doing the same thing that most SL players do to W-Hats, singling out a group and looking down your nose at them to inflate your self worth.
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Xeon Lomax
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04-10-2005 10:54
I read this whole thread expecting awesome Q&A funnys. instead, bunch of jackasses(donkeys) come in here and ruin everything, WELL GREAT I JUST WASTED SO MUCH TIME READING CRAP.


Voted 1, hope thread gets gassed kthxbai bai.



















edit: this thread sux.
Ryen Jade
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04-10-2005 11:08
From: Xeon Lomax
I read this whole thread expecting awesome Q&A funnys. instead, bunch of jackasses(donkeys) come in here and ruin everything, WELL GREAT I JUST WASTED SO MUCH TIME READING CRAP.


Voted 1, hope thread gets gassed kthxbai bai.



















edit: this thread sux.



quoted for challenge.
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Between you, Ryen the twerp and Ardith, there's little to change my opinion here.. rather you have reinforced it each in your own ways


IM A TWERP, IM A TWERP! :D

Whats a twerp? :confused:
Alexandra DeFarge
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04-10-2005 13:12
From: Nora Belvedere
While I'm not a furry, your basic arguement seems to be that because some furries are in to beastiality, then all furries are bad.

I could make the same arguement that because some heterosexuals or homosexuals are pedophiles, then all heterosexuals or homosexuals are bad. You're nit-picking in an incredibly dumb way just because you're angry that someone edited your post.

You're doing the same thing that most SL players do to W-Hats, singling out a group and looking down your nose at them to inflate your self worth.


No, my argument isn't that at all. If you read the post previous to the one with the attachment, you will see that it is a very specific aspect of furry-fandom that I have an issue with. To make the claim that these things don't occur in SL is ludicrous, and after finding what I found - I'd almost go so far as to call it endorsed.

As far as having my post edited, yeah, I'm a bit miffled that the whole thing was deleted rather than just the offending part, because I had some valid points. I just happened to ask a very uncomfortable question that forced some introspection and I guess that qualifies as an attack on a group!

And honestly, it doesn't inflate my sense of self-worth, I was asked to provide a background as to my general dislike of furries and that's what I've gone ahead and done.
Ursula Madison
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04-10-2005 13:20
From: Alexandra DeFarge
You know, I didn't even have to look hard for proof of my statements that were removed by Pathfinder. I went to The Forest because I heard that someone was selling a cop-uniform in the store there.

The story goes on to describe in graphic detail some things that if I mention here, I will probably get a ban for! Essentially, it involves a dog and a woman doing things that well... that the furries on SL say they don't believe in and/or support. How does that statement hold water when there is a vendor like this?

I don't mind porn, I don't mind sexuality- however I DO mind the exploitation of animals.

Attachment has been censored slightly in the interest of other people's privacy.

Alexandra, I'm just curious... do you think that all the furries get to vote on what someone puts in their vendor? That vendor was put there by an individual, and doesn't require me or any other furry to believe in or support it. In the same sim you mention, I witnessed a W-Hat member shooting a gun that launched large bubbles with a ninja turtle texture. This person fired at every furry that he could find, and didn't respond to any attempts to communicate. By your own logic, this means that the actions of that individual are believed in and supported by W-Hat, making them all anti-furry griefers. The difference is, I know that statement is erroneous, as not all W-Hats are like that one individual. Why can't you see that not all furries are like the one that set up that vendor? Even if the vendor is evil incarnate (and I'm not saying it is), I don't appreciate you condemning every furry in SL because of it... I have nothing to do with the vendor, and I've never met the person who placed it. Does your hatred of us extend to the half of W-Hat that Huns says is furry, or is it just the ones that aren't W-Hat?

On another note... since when is a story that "involves a dog and a woman doing things that well..." considered animal exploitation? While I find the subject matter questionable myself, its just a story... no real animals involved. What's next, you ask that Stephen King be locked up because he writes about people being killed? If you feel so strongly about that story vendor, why not post about the vendor, or ask a Linden about it, instead of using it as an excuse to attack an entire group?
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Aliasi Stonebender
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04-10-2005 14:58
From: Nora Belvedere
While I'm not a furry, your basic arguement seems to be that because some furries are in to beastiality, then all furries are bad.

I could make the same arguement that because some heterosexuals or homosexuals are pedophiles, then all heterosexuals or homosexuals are bad. You're nit-picking in an incredibly dumb way just because you're angry that someone edited your post.

You're doing the same thing that most SL players do to W-Hats, singling out a group and looking down your nose at them to inflate your self worth.


I'm not a furry m'self, but... I've often wondered if those who automatically associate furry with beastiality also automatically superhero fans with a PVC and spandex fetish.

Y'know?
David Valentino
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04-11-2005 07:06
From: Alexandra DeFarge


The furries that have the gall to compare "their struggle for equality" with the struggles that gay, lesbian and transgendered individuals face or the ones that claim 'Furry rights are the next big thing after gays and lesbians', the furries that insist that everything bad that happens to them in society is because 'society is bigotted against furries' - these people all irritate me. Free clue to the abovementioned types of furries: Society has a lot more to worry about on the equality scale before a bunch of nerds who like to wear ears and tails. How about starting with equal pay for equal work when it comes to men and women, when it comes to white, black, yellow, red or whatever? I think those hold a little bit more gravity than any 'fursecution' furries have ever faced. If anything makes me angry about furry fandom, that's it - I'd say that's pretty fair, no?

The aspect of furry-fandom that I have the most serious of issues with is nothing that I can post about on this board. My posts when I mentioned them before were removed claiming that they were a 'personal attack' when I simply questioned whether or not furry fandom was repackaging of two morally abhorent sexual behaviors. Even the most hardened pervert among us would agree that there are certain lines that you do not cross - and it is my opinion that furry fandom as a whole is simply trying to present these two things as palatable and unoffensive. If you are curious as to the specifics, feel free to IM me in world and I can clarify.

The problem is though, that there are a lot more idiot furries who think that any 'mistreatment' they get is because of their furriness and that can't see the forest thru the trees when the morally ambiguous aspects of the fandom are mentioned or questioned.

That is the most succinct way to express part of my issue with furry fandom.


So..if I'm reading this right, you don't like furries that don't laugh when you are insulting to them. You don't like furries that don't act like YOU want them to act. And you don't like some furries sexual preferences, as you percieve them to be.

So, gee wiz, that seems like a good reason to hassle them at every opportuinty. Were you a bully in school too? Cause that's the same mentaility and lame excuses they use.

Guess what? You have the right to live your life as you wish, within the law, as do they. Why all the concern over what you "think" ythey may be like or may be doing? Do you tell your neighbors and friends what to do and how to act?

You might look at yourself first, before pointingt fingers or maiking judgements elsewhere.
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Renault Clio
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04-13-2005 02:26
No, she said she can't stand these fursex-obsessed drama queens, that go all around showing their fur genitalia (in game) or brag with their dicknipple drawings(in real life) as if they're a picasso, and cry foul as soon you only twitch an eye into their general direction.

Because I don't see Alex running around fursecuting(lol) the furries in our own group.
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