Teeny Tinies?

I made big ones before I made Tiny bunnies because Kage was kind of busy and I wanted to get started on cute bunnies. The big ones hop & throw carrots. The little ones are just... well, little and are $50L cheaper than the big ones. /shrug

and you can mix and match heads, feet, etc so buy them all!!!

I love you Wynx *hugs*

blaze, you might take down that post. No reason to educate people on how to break products (even cheat products) even if it is technically possible.

I really want to have a tini avatar!! Any way I could put in a request for one that is taller than average? hehe..

http://www.sluniverse.com/pics/pic.aspx?id=8871&sort=PictureID+desc&Search=pendari

I believe it is possible to damage a Tiny by transferring it. I tried buying a copy for someone but when I transferred it to them it wouldn't function even though it looked like they had all the parts.

~Ulrika~

This was way the system was designed on purpose. Talk to Cory Linden, not me.

Understand, Forseti, you just made blaze's day. He enjoys tossing gloom and misery upon otherwise happy things. No idea why, really... but have a look at his posting history and make your own call on if I'm right or not.

Wynx, you rock and I'm sorry to hear people have been abusing your creativity and generousity (these things are priced much under what one would expect given the demand and craze associated with them). I hope you will understand far more people benefit and enjoy your work than rip it off.

Heh heh, looks like I've got another fan! yeeee hah!

Considering that these have been partially written on the back of open source code contributed by Francis Chung, I'm not sure tinkering with something you've paid for is particularly wrong or unethical.

There are people on these forums, not naming any names or singling anyone out, who lack common decency and respect for others.

That's nothing! There are people on these forums, not naming any names or singling anyone out, who like to post vague durrogatory comments.

~Ulrika~

Considering that "blaze" claims it's an alt whose purpose is to troll the forums, I'm not sure its ethical advice is worth as much as a handful of old, moldy rabbit turds.

guilty

though i suppose ... i wasnt being all that vague

------------------------------------------------
FOR the record i dont mean you Ulrika

Just wanted to remind everyone to refrain from personally attacking one another in the forums, thank you.

Wynx, as Ulrika pointed out, lots (maybe most?) of the broken avatars you have encountered may have been simply the result of an attempt to transfer.

It is disheartening that some people would scavenge your product to make their own avatars, BUT

Nothing, nobody, could EVER make these little things so perfect, so adorable, so well drawn - I could just go on and on. The point is, occasionally we come across something that is perfect art directly out of the chute. The Tinies are just that. Perfect art. Nothing can ever take that away.

And the service provided by these Tinies - the fun, the creativity they inspire, all of it - can't possibly be duplicated by anyone else, because you (and those who work with you) have already provided that, and there can only be one first time for providing that. When you gave us Tinies, you did that, and that stands now and evermore.

So, while things like this may be aggravating, they detract nothing from your achievement and your art, or from your gift to us.

coco

I didn't break one of your avs for Li'l Cthulhu, Wynx, though I was definitely inspired by your work. I'm guessing you weren't planning any Cthulhu tinies anytime soon Initially I did buy your froggy av to see if I could mod it with some tentacles (just for my own twisted jollies), but that wasn't working out so I had to start from scratch. I still love the froggeh av.

Ooh. Eugene Pomeray and I in Tinies form just made the Editor's Choice Best of Snapzilla. Tinies are way too much fun.

~Ulrika~

your two posts are glorious examples of ducking personal responsibility and moral equivocation

i'm sorry jeska, is that too personal, or is it just SPOT ON

Thanks to everyone for the nice comments. Blaze... it's not that big a deal, really. I don't think it's nice to tell people how to do stuff like that, especially since I have given out half a dozen new bodies to people who had broken theirs (some said they actually pulled out the anims and couldn't get them back in). I'm not a greedy monster. I'm a person behind Wynx Whiplash and I had no idea things would get this big. I really didn't think until that moment that people would/could do that - strip the anims out to use in something else - and THEN ask me for another one. I think I did probably 100 exchanges, answered 200-300 IMs, etc this week. I couldn't worry that people might not be on the up-and-up. I'm kinda burned out & stuff and the thought that people might be that underhanded upset me, even though I'm a big girl and should expect at least a small amount of that!

Vudu - you're right. Your Lovecraftian delight was not going to be on my list. I have sent you a customer who asked me to do one. I expect there to be some competition! I welcome it! Like I said, the kit it coming out soon. We would like there to be some standards set since so many people put so much time into making merchandise for the Tinies. Wouldn't it be nice to know that the miniature AV you buy from someone else will also work with all the stuff that was originally made for the Tinies?

*smooches all around*

The easiest way to see how the animation works WITHOUT breaking the precious tiny av, is to just wear the bodypart of the avatar. And then move that part somewhere off center the av, so you can see the complete animation in effect. There you go, an ethical solution to explain something.

Also, I've transferred a couple of tinies to some people and we didn't encounter such script breaks. I just told them to walk around a bit for the overrider to kick in. Is it possible to use the recompile scripts on no mod stuff? I forget already.

I love the tinies. I hate to see everyone's hard work get exploited.

To do what, exactly?

I'm not advocating people to ask you for free copies of broken objects, I'm advocating people to play around with something they purchased. The fact that they allegedly scam you afterwards has absolutely nothing to do with me.

Hell, they could IM you and say they didn't get a tiny even though they paid for it. Hell, they could say your tiny stole all their money. This is completely orthogonal to anything I'm talking about.

The system has been specifically developed so people can tear apart stuff they purchased. It's the whole point. I believe this is some kind of a weird philosophy thing that Cory has or someone has. Do I agree with it? No.

But these are the 'rules of the road' so if you're making stuff in them, you kinda have to go along with them. Everyone can tear apart my stuff because of these rules so I think it's fair that I should be allowed to tear other people's stuff apart.

Maybe. But then who ever really knows. Apparently you own the content so you might be able to include a license which says you're not allowed to reverse engineer even though the software specifically lets you.

And then you can start tossing out DMCAs against whoever goes against your license.

Though is that a copyright infringement or a copyright violation? I'm not sure.

Well, what about the free open source software that Francis Chung built that is getting sold along with these tinies? Isn't that hard work that is getting exploited?

I swear man. See a cute teddy bear virtual bunny and all rational thought completely goes out the virtual window.

That being said, your work with the tinies are sheer brilliance. It has all the elements to a true work of secondlife genius.. it's technically clever, the artwork and detail is fantastic, and it's extremely popular.

Indeed - some people DO suck - in fact, they deep throat.. I've had similar problems and although it won't solve ALL your problems, it will lessen them a little -(will send you an IM tonight when I get home).

I would point out though, that the popularity of the Tiny Av's isn't so much the anims (I brewed my own 'default pose' for tiny avs using poser with little effort...) or the size..
What attracted me to get one and try it out was the quality of work on the whole package.. from anims to textures, to shape... the attention to detail...

All these these add up to the 'cuteness' of the item.. the final product.. and it was THAT product that drew me...

So keep doin what ya do..

Siggy.

One thing I've been thinking about is including a way for a script to request if your AV is tiny...

Why?

Well for one imagine furniture that knows if you're in a Tiny AV, and plays anims for your accordingly..

IM me in world about it if thats something you would be interested in..