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iDream Rebel
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09-06-2005 08:42
From: Ilianexsi Sojourner I was just thinking about this statement again... wanting to make sure it's permanent, wanting to tie up any possible loose ends. I hate to say it, and please correct me if I'm reading way too much into it-- but isn't this the avatar equivalent of committing suicide? Doing something on purpose to remove yourself permanently? Anybody else see it that way, or is it just me? Correct.. your not wrong.
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Psyra Extraordinaire
Corra Nacunda Chieftain
Join date: 24 Jul 2004
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09-06-2005 08:42
iDream seems to have gone silent. Perhaps he/she succeeded in said banishment? Maybe gave up and just added *.secondlife.com to killfile? All these questions and more... may never be answered...!  Ahhh, the suspense!
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iDream Rebel
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09-06-2005 08:43
From: Jauani Wu you can ask LL to change your passwords. then you cannot log in again until you request the password. The point is, i want to die, i cannot die, if i can change my mind later.
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Surina Skallagrimson
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Join date: 19 Jun 2003
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09-06-2005 08:46
From: iDream Rebel The point is, i want to die, i cannot die, if i can change my mind later. Is this limited to SL, or does it cross into RL as well?
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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09-06-2005 08:53
From: blaze Spinnaker False. Huh, I thought I remembered that last sentence being struck from the most recent version. Let me check some back threads. Good catch! Now, definitely send me your password, iDream - I'll change it, AND you'll be violating the ToS!  -Flip
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Ilianexsi Sojourner
Chick with Horns
Join date: 11 Jul 2004
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09-06-2005 08:53
From: Surina Skallagrimson Is this limited to SL, or does it cross into RL as well? Either way, iDream, please talk to somebody right away... if these feelings cross over into RL, it's urgent that you do so. Even if it's only wanting to die in SL, this is showing a really deep level of unhappiness. Let us know what's happened, maybe we can help you work it out.
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cua Curie
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09-06-2005 09:03
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Seleine Waves
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Join date: 24 Jun 2005
Posts: 5
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Ugh x.x
09-06-2005 09:07
I've seen the same thing on IRC networks, on MU*s...usually caused by an emotional reaction by someone who thinks that everyone on the system hates them. Why these people cannot just 'stop connecting' is beyond me, but they always end up requesting to be banned. The success of such requests is based on the specific system's guidelines.
In the end, it's nothing more than a cry for attention because they 'won't' stop signing on, no matter how much they say they want to stop going onto the service. They give lots of reasons why banning is the only option for them. Everything from 'they don't want to change their mind later' all the way to a plain and simple 'I just can't stop coming! I need to be banned!'
In the end, extreme drama caused by out of control emotions. iDream? If it's that hard for you to just not sign on or uninstall the program and not look back...then it's about time that you sit back and start thinking deeply about yourself and WHY you can't. Addiction? Lack of self control? Or maybe...MAYBE...you actually like this place too much to give up on it completely? I don't know you, I don't know your specific case....but I've seen this wayyyy too many times. Uninstall, cancel the account, block ports, whatever...you have lots of options for stopping going to SL. If you cannot stop coming short of a ban, then you have other issues you need to address far and above SL.
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iDream Rebel
Member
Join date: 10 Mar 2005
Posts: 33
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09-06-2005 09:29
that kind of responce, is what makes me feel life is not worth living.. thanks for your help
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Jsecure Hanks
Capitalist
Join date: 9 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,451
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09-06-2005 09:38
iDream let me tell you something.
When I first came to SL, I made scripts which did alarms. The sales took off, and I put a sign up advertising my booming business.
My neighbour was really nasty to me about it and I felt wretched. I tore down my house and unrezzed all my prims. I gave up all my land, and flew into the night. I found a deep, dark pit in a river, and decided I would lurk down there, away from the nasty people in SL.
Then I figured I'd quit. Screw LL and Screw SL. They want to make me sad, they're not getting my money. Screw them.
Then some person, who I'm very sorry to say I've forgotten their name, invited me on a tour to show me some nice homes. They told me a bit about SL, and they were really nice to me. I went with them, and got my first nice home in SL.
Years later, I'm still here. The moral is, there are some bad actors in SL, I won't deny it. But stay awhile, you're in good company. There are plenty of doves amongst the crows. Whatever's got you down about SL, give it another chance. I have a little beach next to Ritch, it's on the corner of the sim next to it. It's inside a cliff. It has three beach towels on the beach.
If you want a quiet place to hang out, you can hang out there till you get yourself sorted. And if anyone bothers you there, I'll ban them from all the land I own, and abuse report them. And they will get some comeuppance from the Lindens for it, I assure you.
If you really want to leave, you could. But don't let some idiot chase you out of SL. Cause you have as much right as anyone else to be here. And I'm keen to hear where you are, you can come chat with me if you like.
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Snowcrash Hoffman
Digital mind virus
Join date: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 282
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09-06-2005 09:44
From: iDream Rebel The point is, i want to die, i cannot die, if i can change my mind later. Assuming you are not simply trolling, this is actually an interesting discussion point. In other mmorpgs there is always a delete button that you can delete your character in seconds and its gone forever. I am not aware of such option in SL, but since SL is not considered a game, should you have the right to terminate your avatar? I am sure it can be coded easily into the system. Why would you want to do that of course is a RL issue, as outlined by Seleine above, that I think you should consider carefully and get some help.
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Ilianexsi Sojourner
Chick with Horns
Join date: 11 Jul 2004
Posts: 1,707
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09-06-2005 09:46
From: iDream Rebel that kind of responce, is what makes me feel life is not worth living.. thanks for your help OK, now I'm worried.... iDream, if there's nobody else you can talk to, send me a private message and tell me what's really bothering you. Just right click my name and you'll find the link to do it. I'm happy to listen if you need to talk about whatever's upset you so much, or if you just want to vent. If I don't know how to help, I'll find you someone who can. I won't repeat or post anything you tell me unless you say I can. Whatever's hurting you, I promise you, just talking about it with somebody will make it start to feel better.
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Anya Dmytryk
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Join date: 13 Jul 2005
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09-06-2005 10:13
idream, it's hard for people to know how to react to your post. due to the anonymity of the internet, one doesn't know if you are serious, trolling, joking, etc.
that being said, if you are indeed serious, please let me know. i would be happy to talk to you in PM, IM, or email. not everyone is mean in sl. i've run across a number of a**holes, but there are just as many kind-hearted avies running around.
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Luminia Olsen
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Join date: 12 Jun 2004
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09-06-2005 10:19
dont let the voices over take your head!!! dont get yourself ban!! i know they tell you to but dont....the voices are evil i know because i hear them to, they make me play second life!!! and watch weird late night films!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
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Jesrad Seraph
Nonsense
Join date: 11 Dec 2004
Posts: 1,463
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09-06-2005 11:04
Hey iDream, IM me inworld and I'll send you a neat package of gifts for you to play with 
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Snowcrash Hoffman
Digital mind virus
Join date: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 282
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09-06-2005 11:09
From: Anya Dmytryk idream, it's hard for people to know how to react to your post. due to the anonymity of the internet, one doesn't know if you are serious, trolling, joking, etc.
that being said, if you are indeed serious, please let me know. i would be happy to talk to you in PM, IM, or email. . Yeah I was wondering about that too, is this call for help? if you seriously have a problem that bothers you so much, then I'll be happy to talk to you in game as well, just IM me.
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Eggy Lippmann
Wiktator
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 7,939
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09-06-2005 11:24
I can get you banned for hacking in 5 seconds  Or just give you the UUIDs to a few teen grid people so that you can IM, cyber, give money or objects to them, the works. After a single warning, they will permaban you.
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Eggy Lippmann
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Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 7,939
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09-06-2005 11:29
From: Seleine Waves I've seen the same thing on IRC networks, on MU*s...usually caused by an emotional reaction by someone who thinks that everyone on the system hates them. Why these people cannot just 'stop connecting' is beyond me, but they always end up requesting to be banned. The success of such requests is based on the specific system's guidelines.
In the end, it's nothing more than a cry for attention because they 'won't' stop signing on, no matter how much they say they want to stop going onto the service. They give lots of reasons why banning is the only option for them. Everything from 'they don't want to change their mind later' all the way to a plain and simple 'I just can't stop coming! I need to be banned!' Seleine, it's called addiction. If someone had had the courtesy of permabanning me a long time ago, my life would probably have been much better  Then again, I would probably just find something else to get addicted to.
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splat1 Edison
Registerd Nut
Join date: 6 Sep 2004
Posts: 353
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09-06-2005 11:35
wee cry for help If you realy want to kick the habbit of sl you can go about it in one of 2 ways. Mod a pice of sl software to do somthing its not suposed to (crashing will not count  ) or Insult a head of dept linden or dev team member, they have access to the database, you will soon not exsist Not Id advise you dont do any of the above and just unplug yourself from SL 
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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09-06-2005 12:02
Even if you get banned, you can open a checking account and credit card under a different name and go to a different area when you access secondlife.com to create the account. If they block your geographical region your could move. How could they stop you from creating a new account if you put your mind to it?
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Colette Meiji
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09-06-2005 12:02
I can think of another possible motive -
Perhaps someone that no longer likes the real iDream had access to his/her account
And is getting revenge - By getting them permabanned.
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iDream Rebel
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Join date: 10 Mar 2005
Posts: 33
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09-06-2005 13:37
im sorry to worry those people who care, it was not my intention, i just wanted to perminatly end my account.
for those others, just keep seeing what you want to see. im not here to explain my self, or my actions, and i wish i haded said nothing.
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iDream Rebel
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Join date: 10 Mar 2005
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09-06-2005 13:42
From: SuezanneC Baskerville Even if you get banned, you can open a checking account and credit card under a different name and go to a different area when you access secondlife.com to create the account. If they block your geographical region your could move. How could they stop you from creating a new account if you put your mind to it? true.. bad day i guess..
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Aliasi Stonebender
Return of Catbread
Join date: 30 Jan 2005
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09-06-2005 13:44
From: iDream Rebel im sorry to worry those people who care, it was not my intention, i just wanted to perminatly end my account.
for those others, just keep seeing what you want to see. im not here to explain my self, or my actions, and i wish i haded said nothing. There is a school of throught that the actual life of a person is only the core of their existence; it does not truly end until every ripple from every action they have ever taken is resolved, every person that knew them died. Therefore, with malice aforethought, I have proceeded to your in-world land and taken pictures of the house from every angle, with the Edit dialog open to show you as the creator. No need to thank me.
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Jesrad Seraph
Nonsense
Join date: 11 Dec 2004
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09-06-2005 13:49
And something tells me this thread ain't going away for some time, either.
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