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Foulcault Mechanique
Father Cheesemonkey
Join date: 28 Mar 2005
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07-19-2005 19:59
From: Wayfinder Wishbringer I have been concerned for several days now, ever since I learned that part of the Linden "God" powers *includes the ability to read/modify/copy nomod/nocopy items, including scripts and objects*.
In other words, if I send a nomod/nocopy item to a Linden, they have the full ability to copy/mod it to their heart's content.
Even Lindens should not have this power. It is not their script, it is not their build, they have no rights to my intellectual property.
Since from what I've heard (I don't know first-hand) it was an aspect of this God-power that these people exploited, I can now see why I became concerned as soon as I heard of this fact.
IMHO: the only one who has rights to examine a script, to reproduce an object, to override permissions-- is the BUILDER of that item. There may be one or two Lindens who have that extreme power in an extreme emergency (such as if someone uses a script to nuke a sim and Lindens have to find out how it was done), but it certainly should not be under the control of anyone but VERY limited high-security, high-executive privilege. Actually they should have the right to view your scripts. They might need to review it for technical purposes. What if you left the game and your code started causing problems...they need to be able to see that script and you are no longer around. There are alot of reasons for a Linden to see a script...can all Lindens...probably not. Just like in a good network even admins should not have the rights to everything just becuase they are a admin.
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Foulcault "Keep telling yourself that and someday you just might believe it." "Every Technomage knows the 14 words that will make someone fall in love with you forever, but she only needed one. "Hello"" Galen from Babylon 5 Crusade From: Jeska Linden I'm moving this over to Off-Topic for further Pez ruminations.
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Wayfinder Wishbringer
Elf Clan / ElvenMyst
Join date: 28 Oct 2004
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07-19-2005 20:01
From: Merwan Marker Of course they have that right...
... By what law do they have that right? That is arguably a court-decidable thing. It is their system; that doesn't mean they have the legal right to invade supposedly secure intellectual property, especially since the average user is not informed that they have this ability. It has to be considered that just because a person is a Linden today does not mean he will be a Linden tomorrow. And if he has the ability to examine/copy secure information... he also has the potential ability to steal/resell that information. So I would question that they have the legal right to do so... and that's something Linden Labs might want to consider. Even if their logon license agreement were written to state that the user acknowledges that LL has the ability to see/copy secure intellectual property... LL might still be legally held responsible if through negligence such property became compromised. Because TOS ends where negligence law begins. Granting everyday Linden Labs employees regular access to such power, without specific security clearance, is not a good idea.
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Wayfinder Wishbringer
Elf Clan / ElvenMyst
Join date: 28 Oct 2004
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07-19-2005 20:05
From: Foulcault Mechanique There are alot of reasons for a Linden to see a script...can all Lindens...probably not. Just like in a good network even admins should not have the rights to everything just becuase they are a admin. That's the point here. Apparently a LOT of Lindens have this ability. It is not an administrative status power. We would expect that SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE might have this power. Cory certainly. Philip. Other high-power, deep-core Linden people, because yes, sometimes it is going to be essential. But the ability to do that should have a written set of guidelines for WHEN/WHY/HOW and security/password authorization clearance.
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Aliasi Stonebender
Return of Catbread
Join date: 30 Jan 2005
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07-19-2005 20:24
From: Wayfinder Wishbringer By what law do they have that right? That is arguably a court-decidable thing. It is their system; that doesn't mean they have the legal right to invade supposedly secure intellectual property, especially since the average user is not informed that they have this ability.
Er... yes, yes they do. The right to read/copy, anyway, by virtue of you using their systems. They don't have the right to claim *copyright* in your work, nor to redistribute it without your permission... but the day you argue a system admin shouldn't be allowed to examine harmful code on their own system (i.e., scripts) is the day you lose me. |