Chinese woman in Germany earning six figure salary speculating on SL real estate?

From Anshe perhaps?

Ever been in RL?


I am teasing a bit of course... but, it's human nature.

Want evidence? Turn on your television.

Yes, Philip's statement is true. Except that "salary" is the wrong term. I did not cash out to buy Porsche car, but I reinvested most of my earning to help SL grow and as such still have it on high risk.

To agree to such figure become disclosed would have been one very bad business decision on my part - if it would have been business decision.

But it wasn't.

It was one decision I made as member of this community because I think it may help people out there to understand that Second Life is more than one game.

So now one girl has exposed herself even more naked on the public altar. Please help me when those who are waiting for their chance will try to sacrifice me.

One good friend shout at you at home when he think you make mistake, but stand up for you in public. This community is still small and I still have hope we could all stick together. "Celebrity", "feted", "inner core" - I think this is all rubbish that nobody wants. We need community, not cult or witch hunt. We are all feted and all of us are the inner core.

You look outside, look at the real world, the world of 6 billion people. What do you see? You see one real world dominated to 99% by one old elite of patent holders, inherited wealth, nth-generation share holders and communist party leaders' grand children. Yes, you see one world full of corruption where it count whom you know or how much money your parents have. Where you invent something and before you turn around one big company stole your idea and sue you with patent infringement. Where the little guy get taxed to death. Where propaganda control your mind. Where only small areas are still dynamic enough to allow newcomer really get to top. Even Bill Gates had rich parents and connections, despite all the mythos spread via the rich people owned media.

Now one girl bought 9,95$ lifetime account and made 100k US$ worth of property in one virtual world. No connections, no prior wealth, no special computer art skills and all 100% within the rules. And if you look carefully she is really just one of many, more known than some others maybe, but still in no way unique.

So if we want to be serious and help Second Life take over or expand the world we need become one team. We need develop our own strength, our own skills, our own brands and our own capital to be prepared for when the real-life elite discovers this space and tries take it over with their patents, copyrights and real-life money. We all share one vision of virtual reality that is based on creativity and opportunity for those who participate, not only for those who own stock of Electronic Arts or Sony.

We don't need content baron vs land baron, SLEx vs Gigas or Ansheism vs Ulrikaism. We should support each other and take pride in each other's achievements because real challenge in the future will be Second Life vs Pepsi Life. It will be the ultimate battle between one real virtual life that allows people to grow like I and others did or the Evercraft golden cage that turns millions into programmed little zombies locked away in guided-entertainment threadmill spaces. Yes, it is one new battle of freedom vs imprisonment, including the freedom to create, have sex and become one US$ millionaire.

I do think unusual circumstances, unique people are going to get brought up... note the focus of that article on Wilde Cunningham, an extraordinary real-life story unfolding in Second Life...

I'm not going to split hairs but there were a few other inaccuracies in that article, as positive as parts of it were. "No dragons to slay" being one of them, the limiting and archaic description of "a video game" being another (which comes with disconcerting juxtaposition to Wilde's experiences -- more than a "game".

(And my gosh, I've never heard Asperger's referred to as "extreme geek syndrome" before -- and I've even Googled for that! 0 hits.)

Perhaps Anshe just wasn't brought up by name, but recollected anecdotally...

Yes, Philip's statement is true. Except that "salary" is the wrong term. I did not cash out to buy Porsche car, but I reinvested most of my earning to help SL grow and as such still have it on high risk.

To agree to such figure become disclosed would have been one very bad business decision on my part - if it would have been business decision.

But it wasn't.

It was one decision I made as member of this community because I think it may help people out there to understand that Second Life is more than one game.

So now one girl has exposed herself even more naked on the public altar. Please help me when those who are waiting for their chance will try to sacrifice me.

One good friend shout at you at home when he think you make mistake, but stand up for you in public. This community is still small and I still have hope we could all stick together. "Celebrity", "feted", "inner core" - I think this is all rubbish that nobody wants. We need community, not cult or witch hunt. We are all feted and all of us are the inner core.

You look outside, look at the real world, the world of 6 billion people. What do you see? You see one real world dominated to 99% by one old elite of patent holders, inherited wealth, nth-generation share holders and communist party leaders' grand children. Yes, you see one world full of corruption where it count whom you know or how much money your parents have. Where you invent something and before you turn around one big company stole your idea and sue you with patent infringement. Where the little guy get taxed to death. Where propaganda control your mind. Where only small areas are still dynamic enough to allow newcomer really get to top. Even Bill Gates had rich parents and connections, despite all the mythos spread via the rich people owned media.

Now one girl bought 9,95$ lifetime account and made 100k US$ worth of property in one virtual world. No connections, no prior wealth, no special computer art skills and all 100% within the rules. And if you look carefully she is really just one of many, more known than some others maybe, but still in no way unique.

So if we want to be serious and help Second Life take over or expand the world we need become one team. We need develop our own strength, our own skills, our own brands and our own capital to be prepared for when the real-life elite discovers this space and tries take it over with their patents, copyrights and real-life money. We all share one vision of virtual reality that is based on creativity and opportunity for those who participate, not only for those who own stock of Electronic Arts or Sony.

We don't need content baron vs land baron, SLEx vs Gigas or Ansheism vs Ulrikaism. We should support each other and take pride in each other's achievements because real challenge in the future will be Second Life vs Pepsi Life. It will be the ultimate battle between one real virtual life that allows people to grow like I and others did or the Evercraft golden cage that turns millions into programmed little zombies locked away in guided-entertainment threadmill spaces. Yes, it is one new battle of freedom vs imprisonment, including the freedom to create, have sex or become one US$ millionaire.

We don't need content baron vs land baron, SLEx vs Gigas or Ansheism vs Ulrikaism. We should support each other and take pride in each other's achievements ...

Okay, was anybody besides me thinking of the resemblance between these two (see picture below)? Maybe I'm hallucinating, I dunno.

We don't need content baron vs land baron, SLEx vs Gigas or Ansheism vs Ulrikaism.

If it were the real world, Anshe would probably have been exposed to several lawsuits for unfair business practicies and collusion in auctions, not to mention the private and public anti-trust suits.

I don't mean to accuse anshe of not playing by the SL rules, just that people have done so.

Anshe Cheung is a virtual lesson is why the sherman anti-trust act was passed. Frankly a part of me thinks I should figure out how to open up an SL law practice, with people putting real dollars on the table I could make money.

For the stanpoint of being a player in the game..i'd like to see all new land released at a stable market price, and land values be dictated by how the land is improved. Making player in game contributiuons, and not player UD$ resources the defining factor.

Of course I would comment Anshe that it is very easy to say we all should just get along when you are the richest person around and have a good amount of cashe to invest back into the business. But some people just want to get more sims or have a bit of land bigger than the basic, and you come into auctions and price it beyond thier reach, as a matter of pure business. Don't blame them for resenting you? Surely you didn;t think you could get rich off of us and not garner some hatred? Congrats on your hard work though. US$100K is impressive.

The observations of people trying to buy land based on what a new user can reasonbbly make in game suggest that in order to reasonably participate in this market, one must commit real world dollars to play. This is fine, but it makes a frustrating game.

As far as my suggestions on improving the game, they were just musings. But if it makes you feel superior to take them apart..then have at them.

Since you seem to have decided that my post was somehow an attack on anshe, and didn't bother to post anything other than a knee jerk defense of her. I'll give you all due consideration.

Ulrika, I absolutely adore you.
I will remember your "self-serving Pollyanna" expression for the rest of my life.
May I be your first and foremost worshipper in the upcoming Ulrikaist religion?

Okay, was anybody besides me thinking of the resemblance between these two (see picture below)? Maybe I'm hallucinating, I dunno.

Hmm I never did accuse Anshe of breaking any rules. I simply said others have and IRL it is likely she would be sued, whether or not there is any merit to the accusations is beyond the point of my thread..which really is that we allow anshe to exist by sustianing it. Its a natural phenomenon of the game. And yes..Anshe does behave like a trust, even when the threshold for market entry is low.

A good definition of what I mean by a trust (for which there a number of definitions) is thus: Any combination of establishments in the same line of business for securing the same ends by holding the individula interests of each subservient to a common authority for the common interests of all.
Anshe is in the line of work of real-estate development. She buys the land, rents and sells the land owns the clubs on the land and owns the malls on the land, and improves the land and rents residences. This behavior is like a trust..very similar to a vertical monopoly. Whether it is breaking the rules of SL, was not my concern. It simply is an accurate reflection of her power in the market place. Look what they put poor Martha Stewart in Jail for. The Sherman act is very braod reaching.

I was not comment on my own skill at either land speculation or at manufacturing, just pointing out that games like this invide new people who cannot compete against you uber L337's for all the ph@ loo7. A game should accommodate the unskilled player as well as the hard core speculator, and provide enjoyment to both.

An improvement by the way, Is a valuable addition made to property or an amelioration in its condition, amounting to more than mere repairs or replacement of waste, costing in labor or capital, and intended to enhance its value, beuaty or utility or to adapt it to new or further purposes. My suggestion is that raw land be valued according to the uses and structures on it and around it. This is, of course a pipe dream, as land use management is a major RL governement fuction and would never be readily duplicated in a game.

A monoply can be both horizontal or vertical..I never said Anshe has a horizontal monopoly, but lets look at a legal definition of a monoply: A monoply consists in the ownership of or control of so large a part of the market-supply or output of a given commodity as to stifle competition, restrict freedom of commerce and give the monoplist control over prices. State v. Eastern Coal, 29 RI 254 (is a state case, but a useful espression of the definition of the term). Anshe, I think, certainly has this status.

My point has awlays been she is what she is through hard work and in fact, its our money she has, so why complain about her? If you don't like it don't play the game.

. She then Sells it back at 4 times value or so