Totally USELESS update!

Wouldn't do much good though if no one finds good reason to sign in.
Without content, we might as well all go back to Yahoo Chat and Usenet.

Precisely what I'm think of doing - care to give me a timeframe?

And I assume it's back online from what you say, well I'm not even going to bother tonight thanks...

Of course the message about the system going down in 7 minutes COULD have explained why. But didn't. It COULD have given a timeframe. But it didn't.

Says it all really...

You forgot FUCK CONTENT CREATORS I NEED TO TELEPORT RESIDENTS ARE MORE IMPORTANT.

Never mind the fact that content creators are paying customers, or without content, there would be much to do. As long as they fix TEH LAGG then they can leave security holes.

Oh, yes, it does. It says that Lindens have no control over how long it would take for you to download the new client. Keep in mind this was a CLIENT update, not a server. They never shut down the grid, they only logged us out to let us update in a more work friendly environement. It took me a whole 10 minutes to get back into the game.. because that's how long it took for ME to download the new client. I know one player whose taking an hour because of ISP issues!

I figured that if it says Client update, that means something happening on my end, not the servers and they aren't going down. Note, nowhere did they say that the servers were going down, and usually they do tell us that.

It's that elitist attitude that ruins my SL. I'm quite certian that everyone who complains about content creators stands around in their buttercup yellow sweatsuits, with their non-prim hair, skinless, doing the default F-key Linden dances.

Anyone can see that this post is clearly about me, you're lucky I am not the reporting type!

I work in the IT as 2nd line support engineer. You know what we do with customers who start to rant this way:

Oh well we try to solve her problem at the end of the day.

5pm : He, we still have to solve her problem. Oh well there is always tomorrow.

Cause that kind of customers only cost money.

Ooooh, sacrasm! Given that very few who actually complain about the content creators are willing to DO this, I'd say that's what this sounds like to me.

Yes, please fix the lag, the teleport issues, and such.. but test the hell outta them before you send them live!!!
But, please, please fix all the security issues NOW, so I know that my stuff in my inventory and my l$ will be there when I next log in!

Hmm.. that makes a good mantra, come to think of it.

Also, they are kinda related. It's due to poor testing that a few of the security issues are caused.. and it's due to the "stupid" creativity of others that the rest occur. Come to think of it.. I won't play on a game that says it's hacker-proof. Can we say red flag in front of the bull?

Wow. I did. And that's pretty dumb.

How do you think that most of the stuff you see and do in SL got to be there?

Do you think it was shat out by a giant digital wallaby in the Before Times?

I'm thinking her PhD isn't in economics.

Correct

However it seems that content providers really are the SL elite. LL finds out that something threatens them and there is an instant response.
LL knows damn well that there are serious issues with the entire infrastructure, which seem to be getting worse all the time, and put's it's corporate hands in it's corporate pockets and whistles unconcernedly through it's coporate teeth.

The fact is that, yes, I do depend heavily on purchased content. However, I don't live and die by it. I can grab textures anywhere in RL and import them. I have Poser and Photoshop. I have the LL supplied building tools. About the only thing I can't do myself is script.

In fact, instead of spending US$1-200 per month on content while attempting to landscape, plant and build a sim and a bit, I might well be happier sticking to building just for me on 4608m2 and doing it all myself.

My point being that's exactly what I, and everyone else could do. We don't NEED content. The tools to do it ourselves are all there.

Residents without content providers is a sustainable model. Content providers without residents isn't!

And I don't need a PhD in economics to see that...


Meanwhile, this coming Sunday LL are encouraging residents to see if they can break the grid.

What precisely is that going to prove? That it's possible to overload the network?
Well we already know the answer to that - the network shows all the signs of being overloaded on a daily basis!

Something, somewhere is very wrong. Either the hardware or the software infrastructure is badly flawed or completely inadequate. Surely rectifying these problems should be the most important item on LL's 'to do' list?

Actually my sweet, this kind of customer spends a great deal of money, both with LL and inside SL - but only up to the point where it stops being fun and becomes a frustrating experience.

As for your attitude to paying customers with legitimate complaints who expect some sort of action in response to their complaints - I really hope I never have to deal with your employer, or are you already employed by LL by some chance?

Sounds like it, given your attitude that customers that complain about service shortcomings only cost money - I.E. you work for someone who isn't interested in providing a decent service, just fleecing those who don't complain and ignoring those who do...

Good advice. You have absolutely nothing of any value to say, and display breathtaking ignorance in anything you do say.

*plonk*

Well I do buy and sell L$ on GOM, in some volume. However I don't use SL ATMs, I trade directly on the website.



Oh I can see the issue for people who run L$ based businesses in SL.

However, one point no one seems to have picked up is that this thread was originally posted in response to the last client/server update that could easily have cost me L$200k because of the resultant chaos and lack of forewarning...

My subesequent comments were prompted largely by the premptory message from Jeska that everyone was being logged off - no forewarning - no explanation.

This while I was attempting to catch up on a huge backlog of building/landscaping work, having spent half an hour trying to TP or ROAM to the land in question, after having spent the previous evening sitting chatting in a recently updated SIM containing only one other AV, because TP and ROAM were both non-functional and any attempt to move resulted in am immediate fps drop from 12-15 to 1 or less... Couldn't even maintain inventory as I was warned of asset server problems...



Fair point, yes, I do buy stuff - a lot of stuff. But if there was no content for sale I would do it myself (except scripts which are a closed book to me), and have when the thing I wanted wasn't available commercially in reasonable quality and/or at a reasonable price. And to be honest, given the adverse effects of hundreds of scripts on a SIM I wonder just how useful they actually are?

And as I understand it, in the absence of any statement so far from LL and from information posted by third parties, the major concern was to do with transaction scripts. Agreed other scripts failing would be annoying, but scripts failed after the last update and I had to throw away and/or replace a number of items.



Agreed - but that information, that the update was going to be a security patch, was not made available.



Good points. But do remember that I wasn't initially aware of the nature or cause of the update at the time of posting - just trying to get on with something I'm well behind with in an environment in which major features are failing consistently and, as far as I can see at an ever increasing rate.

As for things being 'available' to 'enjoy' - well, lately they rarely are.
When I started in SL it was FUN. Almost everything worked, most of the time and I could log in knowing I would be able to do what I wanted, when I wanted.
Over the last month or so SL has stopped being fun. It's becoming more stressful and frustrating than RL!

To then hear, admitedly from an unconfirmed third party source, that the latest update, which had just thrown me out without any reasonable warning or explanation, was a patch designed to remove security holes in the client software in order to protect the interests of content creators and sellers was not calculated to impress me.

I'd have thought that looking after the hundreds of thousands of US$ a month worth of 'ordinary' residents by sorting out the ongoing problems in SL MIGHT have been more important than protecting the interests of the commercial elite.

Luv you too...