SLBoutique vs. SLExchange

Interesting, you claimed you didn't know what consequences it had on his account, yet right there, you say you were aware his account was frozen, and you cancelled the claim. Now Merwan's statement of the same event, to compare and contrast.

Well, what Merwan posted is not what really happened. He withheld fact that we had agreed he would immediately mail signed document in which he confirms transfer of ownership of his SLEx share. For several weeks I have waited for this to happen and finally disputed the payment because, quite frankly, this smelled big time. You pay somebody 4 digit US$ and weeks later you still not receive legally binding document from him, how would you feel? I am in my full right to dispute payment if somebody refuse to fullfill his commitment.

Well, Cristiano, I'm not the one who did the badmouthing of ANY company, you will notice.

I DID suggest that all the personal testimony as to why we should not use SLExchange - which, as I said before, I listed my things on about a week ago and I have been THRILLED with ever since - was not fair and not in line with my own experience.

I didn't laugh at anybody. I didn't pick out one of the people badmouthing the company and start trying to make fun of them.

THAT is the difference.

Now HERE is another difference. I've been four months on these forums, being patient, patient, patient, patient, patient, patient. Beyond anything ANYBODY should have to be - going through being an alt to posting for another person to lying about whether someone ever called for my banning or not to again another being someone else, to having things I haven't even POSTED yet analyzed and called names before it ever gets posted, to having my honesty questioned, and ooodles ooodles ooodles - day after day after day after frickin day. Some people I ignore entirely, and some I ignore part of the time.

But eventually I get sick of it and blow up over it. Which of course, makes many very happy.

But I'm not crazy about blowing up, especially since in real life and on any other forums I do this so rarely that it almost never happens. Yet here, it has happened several times in the past four months.

Must be some sort of a fricking SPORT.

Well, the sport is going to change. Much as I have tried not to do it, I'm going to start reporting posts which break the TOS.

Now Cristiano, you can say whatever you want about how I am such a horrible person for actually holding up the TOS again, for god's sake - how dare I point to that.

Well, I hope it affords me some protection, and SOME relief from this bloody damn position I occupy on these forums of being a sport for a bunch of people. Who think they can say ANYTHING.

And all because I stuck up for previous victims of the same treatment. Or in this case, cause I spoke nice about SLExchange.

And in this case, SLExchange DOES NOT DESERVE the sort of coverage they are getting here, and I GET to say that, and if someone else wants to do something disrespectful to me for it, and call me names for it then get ready, cause I'm reporting your ass every time from now on, and hoping some of it sticks.

coco

Nice one! Here are two of my favorites:

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

The recipe for perpetual ignorance is: be satisfied with your opinions and content with your knowledge. -- Elbert Hubbard

I'll overlook you, Pendari, since you probably haven't read my post above.

But any further discussion of my supposed ignorance and/or conscientious stupidity will be reported.

coco

Uhh.. Coco. I really wish you would stop thinking everything is about you. The arrogance you have makes it hard sometimes to really *want* to read anything you may have to say. Overlook me or report me all you want, I was adding two quotes on ingnorance to a quote already posted that I happened to like. So I shared my two favorites on that topic.

And please do start using the AR tool. It is my hope that the Lindens will get a first hand chance to see your over-reactions just like we have to.

And yes you pissed me off because you threatened and belittled me for no damn reason just now.

Wow, way to overreact. I'm a little surprised. I think Pendari is easily one of the most civil people on the forums, particularly where you're concerned. I'm continually impressed by (and jealous of) her ability to disagree with even your most excited postings with calm, patience and respect. Rant away at me, but she definitely doesn't deserve that sort of remark.

When some try to rule one forum and attempt to surpress certain points of view, one method is to immediately "shoot down" whoever dares to express this unwanted point of view. One way of "shoot down" one person is to ridicule that person, call him stupid or otherwise attack this person and his credibility. If successful, this serves well as one example to others and creates one atmosphere of fear that ensures that censorship through the forum leaders functions.

In difficult case when this is not successful, then baiting and provoking one person is way to go, followed by mass abuse reporting when person under attack makes one little mistake. This can then be augmented and followed up in #IRC discussions with forum moderators, phone calls and "concerned" e-mails to those in charge.

Happy forum posting!

I dont have any personal reasons not to use SLExchange, just practical ones.

Mostly, because it's based on PHP Nuke.

Reasons not to like PHP NUke for "Secure" transactions can be found in abundance here:
http://www.securityfocus.com/swsearch?query=PHP+NUke&sbm=archive%2F1%2F&submit=Search%21&metaname=alldoc&sort=swishlastmodified

I simply don't trust that code base at all. At least not for anything that resembles financial transactions. It's definitely not PCI (Payment Card Industry) compliant by a long shot (which is the de facto standard for secure internet services).

I have no idea what their code base looks like but I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't be able to receive PCI certification ... which is scary considering that US$ transactions are indeed handled via the site.

But then again, I have been called paranoid. I prefer the term "experienced" however.

-AP

Ah, but what you did do is pass judgement on the opinions of those whose experience is different from yours. Cocoanut had a great experience, so no one else is allowed to have another opinion, they are being unfair because it is not your experience. You can't have it both ways, make up your mind. Fairness is in the eye of the beholder.



Yes we know, you have the patience of saint, you are a professional writer, you make more money than God, oh the troubles you have seen in these forums, etc. ad nasueum. You say you had your honesty about having people calling for your banning questioned? You had the statement that there were multiple people calling for your banning questioned. IT WAS ONE PERSON (there is that gratuitous capitalization you love sooo much).

You had comments made about your poll because you kept constantly talking about your poll before you had ever posted it. No one would have known you were planning a poll, but the build up you gave it left you open to comments, and Jauani certainly did.



I have never said you were a horrible person, I just said I don't like your efforts to control people, and the way you constantly refer to the TOS like some kind of goddamned overzealous hall monitor. Just report the fucking things already and shut up about it, seriously. Why do you have to make such a spectacle about reporting? Threatening to warn, saying how much trouble we are all in if Cocoanut starts to warn (you weild that much power, eh?). If you feel something is a violation, then by all means report it. You have the tools, then you complain that the enforcement is not to your liking. Yet you don't use them, so by all means, please do. Just spare us the "I just reported that post" thing.



It wasn't because you spoke nice about SLExchange, others did as well - it was because in the same breath, you commented on those who disagreed with you, who did not like SLExchange for whatever reason. You commented on their validity to have that opinion, and to speak of it, and then you act all indignant when they push back. See how you misrepresent things? You act all indignant, but you leave out an important part of it.



You certainly do get to say that, and those who think Anshe et al have it coming certainly have the right to say that as well. If you need to run and tell on people for calling you big bad names like obtuse, being the adult that you are, then by all means, report away. If you spent less time trying to control the behaviors of others and just worried about Cocoanut, you would be a lot better off.

Jumping in here trying to avoid the yelling back and forth, Ive used both the SLexchange and the SLboutique and I have never had a problem using either service. The only problems Ive ever had was with 'secondserver', number three in the web based SL buying services. Had several purchases result in items failed to deliver and never could get any responses to my problems. Id recommend the 'exchange' or the 'boutique' to anybody for their one stop shopping needs.

This thread has turned into more of a personal attack than a discussion and as such is being closed. If you'd like to discuss this topic further, please feel free to start another thread and refrain from personally attacking one another.