SLBoutique vs. SLExchange

SLExchange has had a cloud of mis-trust hanging over it since one of its owners locked his partner out of the system around January 2005. For the better part of a week, there was a great deal of uncertainty as to the security of merchants' and customers' deposits in the hands of a proprietor that would lock his partner out of the business without notice by changing the SL passwords crucial for operation. In the end, the now sole owner did not abscond with the L$ on deposit and the only one screwed was his partner. A very respected and high profile member of the community was announced as the new partner and then shortly thereafter declined because of the ill-will generated by the debacle.

This, like every story, is subject to a lot of he-said/he-said sort of debates, but I had consulted for both of the he's (gratis, at their request) prior to the events and understood how the partnership was constructed and unilaterally destructed. Put another way, I would be willing to swear under penalty of perjury and with credible knowledge and records that the usurping operator was malfeasant in his actions. Fortunately, the operation was small enough and the ousted partner a "big" enough person that I shan't need to testify.

I have no reason to believe that the operator of SLExchange has any intention of future misconduct but insofar as reputations matter, I'd personally never associate with the proprietors of SLExchange.

Contrariwise, I've never seen anything but good and attentive conduct by the personnel at SLBoutique or Gigas. I've been a merchant with both teams favorably in the past although I do not have any connection with them any longer, nor have I any material interest in the success of their ventures.

Well, I wasn't here in January, so I don't know who's who or what's what, which makes me fairly objective about things, and knew nothing about any of them prior to having things ready to list.

And as I just said in the other thread earlier today, so far, I have listed on SLExchange and I'm VERY pleased with the way the site is set up and how simple it is to use. I think it's just wonderful. I love the stats it shows you and everything, too.

As I said earlier, I will get around to SLBoutique and Gigas (I have gotten started with Boutique, just not finished; and trying to get started with Gigas, but it refuses to recognize me for some reason, and I haven't heard back about why). So I can't talk about how wonderful they may be yet.

That is to say, I MAY get around to them, but if I keep hearing SLExchange dissed for reasons I know nothing of, then I might just stick with them and boycott the others, since for reasons I'm not privy to, I notice people seem rather determined to badmouth their business. I don't think that's very fair, since it seems to have been some kind of interpersonal thing, with nothing to do with the service they provide, however much I may or may not have sympathized with whoever ended up on the short end of the stick.

All I know is the person I deal with on SLExchange - Tigress Stormwind, I believe her name is - has been totally professional and perfectly wonderful to me, and the way it's all set up is terrific.

I can't speak about SLBoutique or Gigas yet, but I can tell anyone who is reading this thread that I am very pleased with SLExchange.

coco

P.S. I ended up completing my listings on SLExchange first, because it was the one easiest for me to understand how to do it. Others may find the others easiest to understand; I'm just saying that's why I have that one complete and not the others.

But, then again, you also played TSO

My sales on SLExchange:L$136,750
My sales on SLBoutique: L$0

It's not a completely fair comparison, since I've not been with SLBoutique that long, but that big fat zero doesn't look good to me.

Oh, and MetaAdVerse: About L$90,000 in income since I started with them. I think it was back in January/February. Around 20K has been spent on running my own ads, so the net profit has been around 70K.

i sell pretty well on slb , please not the kdc netsys vendor system is slb compatible ^^

I'm curious as to what you'd be trying to achieve with a boycot of the other businesses, since it's not the other busnesses doing the "badmouthing".

I think George Orwell missed that bit of doublethink:

OK, imagine a teacher. Let's say I'm a fifth grade teacher.

I'm new to the elementary school. I get my roster of kiddies. I deliberately don't sit pouring over their records.

I take each and every one of those kids as they present themselves to me, and I teach THAT kid. THAT kid is the one who performs, the one who behaves, the one who delivers, brain pure-clean and spanking-new out of the box for me.

I don't go by the other teachers' scuttlebutt in the faculty lounge, about which kid is the "problem" kid and so forth. I don't even listen to that.

I consult the record only later - after I've formed my own impression. After I've gotten the best I can get out of that kid. Without prejudice.

This has always been my philosophy - in how I teach, in how I approach people, and in how I approach these boards and all things SL.

coco

You have a good point, Jillian.

I guess that wouldn't be fair.

And others might take the cue that all the badmouthing can create a backlash, and they aren't doing the business they like much of any favor by doing it. They would do better to praise the business they like instead.

coco

Some people continue slandering and damaging one business I am partner in for things that happened before I was involved. What's more, they don't know even half of what really happened. Because I have no interest in add to drama I only say so much: Apotheus has been fair, honest and reliable partner in SLExchange ever since I got involved, and before I got involved with SLExchange I always knew him as friendly person with high integrity.

Anyway I can assure you that SLExchange is business with success based on hard work. We believe in good programming and good service. We don't believe in forum warfare, corruption or FIC cartells.

Well you did publicly become his business partner only *after* he screwed his first one, so your experience may indeed be true. And slander is only slander if false. But you didn't call me a slanderer, of course, because you don't believe in forum warfare, right?

Hon, I didn't call you anything. Thing is though, that there have been some things to the whole story between the original SLEx owners that people here are not aware of. I am not playing judge here since what happened before I was involved is as little my business as it is yours. Most appropriate thing to do would be to simply drop this topic. Dragging it on month after month after month in one way that is only damaging to the business and its current owners is not ethical. Especially given the fact that it has nothing to do with how SLEx has done business or serving its customers, which has always been flawless from beginning until now.

Sweetiekins, if people are going to put funds on deposit with an organization, then history, reputation, and - as you cited - ethics are important.

Please note that I very explicitly said I had no reason to expect malfeasance from SLExchange in the future. And if you'd like to stop it from dragging on, then I suggest you stop doing so. I stated the history, you contested it, I rebutted, and here you are again.

If you wish to claim that my summation of history is damaging to your business, then you are acknowledging that history matters. If you wish to claim that my conduct is unethical, then please don't hide behind innuendo, because you don't believe in forum warfare.

Oh yes!

Question is, should I publish in both hardback and trade paper back, or just trade paper back?

Make sure you do an e-book edition.

wtf, man. You completely read my mind on that one. I wasn't going to mention it, though, so I'm glad someone else did.

What would be stupid would be letting others make up my mind for me.

coco

hahahah!

In a dull day for the forums, I finaly get a laugh.
Thank you Malachai Petunia.

The truly hilarious thing is that coco tries to defend this policy in the next post!

hee hee....

still laughing, ahhh!

Flip I tink you are great.
I also tink your store is great and beder dan dat other one.

But I tink it *is* your job to be the police.
It's your store, you are responsible.

I tink.

As I said, what would be truly stupid is for me to get on these forums and let you decide who I'm going to like and what businesses I'm going to support. Based on your own biased "history."

If you want to find that "hilarious," fine. But I would say you are not treating my opinions and viewpoint with respect as requested in the TOS. (Not to mention that my viewpoint on this is the rational one to take.)

You all getting together to laugh at people only shows your own ignorance in doing so.

coco

P.S. I daresay the people at SLExchange don't find my comments so laughable.

And while we're on the topic, just why ARE you trying to ruin their business?

coco

Stop using the damn TOS like some kind of weapon to try to silence people. It is the same thing people do with the Bible to justify their own biases. You are able to express your opinion, someone else is allowed to express that they think your opinion is silly. You in turn can say you think theirs is silly, or that you don't care what they think, or you can say nothing at all. What a wonderful country this is. Your viewpoint is rational in your own mind, others may differ. Of course the people at SLExchange would not find your opinion laughable, duh. Why dare you say it?

SLExchange as a business relies upon the reputation of Apotheus and Anshe. Depending upon opinions of those two individuals, based upon experience with them, some people would rather not do business with the site and they are free to express that opinion. There is quite a public history of what did go on - if you choose to be ignorant of that, then do not criticize others for forming their own opinions based upon what happened.

Oh, you are just SO FLIPPIN RIGHT, Cristiano.

NATURALLY I shouldn't object to being the object of constant and maddening derision. CERTAINLY I shouldn't expect people to pay any attention to the TOS.

OF COURSE that is akin to being a bible thumper.

NATURALLY.

And of COURSE I should get ON THIS FLIPPIN THREAD and give MY OPINION of that I wasn't HERE in January, so I can be objective and not take sides in THAT DISPUTE, and that I haven't yet TRIED the other two companies, but that

MY EXPERIENCE with SlExchange has been WONDERFUL and so

NATURALLY OF COURSE IT PLUM NATURALLY FOLLOWS that the ENTIRE CONVERSATION MUST THEN TAKE A TURN to be

ALL ABOUT LAUGHING AT COCO.

Because . . . I said something. That's all it takes. Or maybe it's because I said something good about a company which is the enemy.

I allowed everyone else to give their comments without laughing at them and making fun of them.

And yet you gotta get on this thread and tell me that I should put up with it?

I DONT FRICKIN THINK SO.

coco

Lo is looking for some opinions. If you are not interetested in hearing them, you are under no obligation to read this thread.