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SLBoutique vs. SLExchange

Lo Jacobs
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06-02-2005 14:48
Which, from your point of view as a seller, generates more sales? I only want to join one.

I am not interested in people's feelings getting hurt or accusations or anything of the kind. I am simply looking for the best way to sell my clothes and I am interested in using the web to do so.

Also, if you've got any information regarding MetaAdverse, I'd be glad to hear it :) Thanks guys.
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Stormy Roentgen
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Join date: 25 May 2004
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06-02-2005 14:54
This is my experience. I use both, and I sell more on SLEx currently. When SLB first kicked off, which hasn't been long ago, my sales were nonexistant there. They are constantly growing.

It's not that one site is better than the other. It's just because SLEx has been around longer, so there were already "regulars" shopping there. SLB is picking up the pace more and more as time goes on.

You may want to simply grab an account at each site, and play around with setting up a couple items. See how you like the interfaces for each. They are completely different. Both are fine, but I like SLB's interface a bit better. It's much faster to add multiple items in the same sitting.
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ZsuZsanna Raven
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06-02-2005 15:03
Not trying to hijack or anything but am curious. What is the difference in buying on these sites instead of in world? Are there items there that are not available in world? If so, then why would things be available off world instead of in it? How do you get the items if you buy off the sites? Just some questions I have had for awhile now.
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Cubey Terra
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06-02-2005 15:32
From: ZsuZsanna Raven
What is the difference in buying on these sites instead of in world? Are there items there that are not available in world?


The difference is that the web shops are searchable and categorized. In-world shops are sometimes disorganized and it's difficult to find particular items.

From: someone
If so, then why would things be available off world instead of in it?


I sell at both SL Exchange and Gigas Second Server, and I plan to start selling on SL Boutique again soon. There are advantages for both the seller and the shopper. Sellers don't need to rent spots in malls or own land, and reach a wider market, and shoppers have an easier time finding what they want. Certainly, in-world shops and malls also have benefits, but searchability is a major plus in favour of web shops.

From: someone
How do you get the items if you buy off the sites? Just some questions I have had for awhile now.


The items don't actually exist on the websites -- they're just listed there. The items exist in "server" prims in-world. When a customer buys an item on the website, the website e-mails the server prim and tells it what item to deliver and to whom.

Lo, if I were you, I'd go to the extra effort of listing your items on all three websites.
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Eboni Khan
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06-02-2005 17:28
SL Boutique has the easiest Vendor setup of all the sites. I like theirs the most and I have used all 3. I will tell you about sales privately.
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OSourcerer Flytrap
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07-19-2005 07:24
I have problems trusting any of these sites. Mainly because they all allow for the sell of TOS violating items:

SL Exchange

SL Boutique

If they are proponents of the makers of these items, how can you trust them with your objects and Lindens?
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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Join date: 14 Nov 2003
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07-19-2005 07:45
From: OSourcerer Flytrap
I have problems trusting any of these sites. Mainly because they all allow for the sell of TOS violating items:

SL Exchange

SL Boutique

If they are proponents of the makers of these items, how can you trust them with your objects and Lindens?


The item you have listed would not necessarily violate ToS. It could be used for battles legitimately in Jessie or Rausch. We rely upon our users to report any items they may have a problem with. No one has mentioned this item to me, until now. This item clearly has a use far beyond a "sim lagger" or "sim crasher". I'm sure SLexchange would remove the item listed on their site if someone reports it, as its sole purpose is to crash simulators.

I have an open dialog with the Lindens regarding items. Items that have a sole purpose of griefing have been removed in the past. I do not think it is my place to censor content, however; I will leave that job to the Lindens, who know how to contact me at any time.

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Coupe Neville
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07-19-2005 08:31
From: FlipperPA Peregrine
The item you have listed would not necessarily violate ToS. It could be used for battles legitimately in Jessie or Rausch.


From: someone

Very powerful gun. Yet very simpl :) Just shoot this gun and hold down left click button and BOOM in a feww seconds sim starts crashing!


how could an item what's only purpose is to crash a sim have a legitimate use? :P
blaze Spinnaker
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Join date: 12 Aug 2004
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07-19-2005 15:13
I sold a missile launcher on SLBoutique today.

I was wondering what was happening because SLB isn't very much a weapons type website.

BTW, the launcher will not nuke a sim, unless the sim is very fragile.

It causes instant death, will do a nuclear push if toggled ON (warning about tos.. just do in jessie and in the FightClub (got philips permission on this one!) and throws off rad particle effects which might lag you a tad bit if you have a weak video card.

Otherwise, it's like pretty much every other single weapon out there.

Check it out at

http://www.slboutique.com/index.php?&p=buy&itemid=12174

If you have any questions, please ask. I will happily make minor modification to deal with any concerns / questions you might have.
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Rimble Rampal
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07-19-2005 15:41
From: Coupe Neville
how could an item what's only purpose is to crash a sim have a legitimate use? :P


I think Flip was only talking about the gun listed on SLBoutique (his site). He says the one on SLExchange would probably be taken down if the site owners were notified.


On topic: I don't shop at either usually because I like to browse thru the messy world of shops. Unless I want something specific. Then I check all of them. So my advise would be to set up on both and maybe even Gigas to get the best sales.
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07-19-2005 15:54
SL Exchange has a vastly larger selection, but that comes with age. My prefference is towards SL Boutique who's site design is far more friendly -and- who I can send money to from my wallet instead of flying to an ATM. Also, any time I've had any issue with SL Boutique, they've been incredably friendly in fixing it, and fast.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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07-19-2005 16:37
SLExchange is owned by individuals who do not adhere to high standards of conduct. I personally do not trust SLExchange either as a customer or as a citizen of SL.

I think the fact that SLBoutique and Gigas have posted acknowledgements of potential vulnerabilities and released patches within hours of the recent code compromise is evidence of superior customer support, public relations, and general accountability.

While SLExchange has the benefit of toadies creating pro-SLEx threads for them in light of their failure in the previous poll, it is a far cry from the superior support that FlipperPA and Adam are providing right before our eyes in this very forum.

~Ulrika~
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blaze Spinnaker
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07-19-2005 16:41
heh heh, new slogan for Ulrika..

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Surreal Farber
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07-19-2005 16:48
IMO SLB has the easiest site for merchant set up with SLex as a 2nd, and Second Server as a distant third.

I've had good sales from both SLB and SLex. I recently delisted on SLex purely because I ended up changing every product name (over 100) and it was too much trouble to re-set up. If they change their interface to be more friendly, I will go back there too.

I gave up trying to set up on Second Server bacause the interface was too time consuming and frustrating. That was awhile ago, so they may have changed it.
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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07-19-2005 17:09
From: Rimble Rampal
I think Flip was only talking about the gun listed on SLBoutique (his site). He says the one on SLExchange would probably be taken down if the site owners were notified.


That's exactly it, as Blaze clarified as well. Its not my job to be the police; its the Lindens (for now, 'til this whole venture goes open source, hehehe).

Regards,

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Nikolaii Uritsky
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07-19-2005 17:32
I use both and get about the same amount of sales from both. I wouldn't say either one is better than the other. They're both good in different ways.
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Janie Marlowe
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07-19-2005 17:41
i get equal sales from both sites i'd say when i actually list on both. to be honest, i don't list as often on slbotique because i find it a lil bothersome that they don't allow .tga files so it adds one more step to the process that i could live without. i also like that slexchange holds your funds until you withdraw so you can better track them.

someone asked about the benefit of using these sites...honestly i think people shop at work, i notice i get more sales from both of them during normal business hours which leads me to believe when the boss ain't looking, someones shopping for their avatar.

both have just been a nice push in my sales. other than the .tga file issue i'd say they are equally good and would recommend you use both.
OSourcerer Flytrap
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07-19-2005 17:41
Flipper,

It is absolutely obvious that none of these items are adding anything positive to SL. Are you obligated to police these items? - no. Should you? - yes.

My point is that it is difficult to put trust in people that aid the distribution of, and profit from, objects that bring nothing but negative results to all of SL. Certain moral decisions are obvious. Promoting items that do nothing but discourage people from using SL is a self defeating action. Censorship is not always a bad thing. Every retailer in the world does it daily when they decide which products to put on the shelf.
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Lash Xevious
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Join date: 8 May 2004
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07-19-2005 18:36
I use SL Boutique because it was very easy to set up. And shopping-wise, I can actually buy no transfer items and send them as gifts to people. And I like the interface it's user-friendly for both buyers and sellers.
Merwan Marker
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07-19-2005 19:04
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
SLExchange is owned by individuals who do not adhere to high standards of conduct. I personally do not trust SLExchange either as a customer or as a citizen of SL.

I think the fact that SLBoutique and Gigas have posted acknowledgements of potential vulnerabilities and released patches within hours of the recent code compromise is evidence of superior customer support, public relations, and general accountability.

While SLExchange has the benefit of toadies creating pro-SLEx threads for them in light of their failure in the previous poll, it is a far cry from the superior support that FlipperPA and Adam are providing right before our eyes in this very forum.

~Ulrika~



I think i gots a broom somewhere, errr, no, my mistake, it's a sign...with a broom like wooden stick thing... Straining to read what it says...

OMG - don't make me do the BUMP - and - RESURRECT - threads of lore, days of old...

ROFLOL!

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Ulrika Zugzwang
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07-19-2005 19:23
From: Merwan Marker
OMG - don't make me do the BUMP - and - RESURRECT - threads of lore, days of old...
blaze bumped the Boycott threads a week and a half ago. (Seriously.) Where were you? ;)

~Ulrika~
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07-19-2005 20:02
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
blaze bumped the Boycott threads a week and a half ago. (Seriously.) Where were you? ;)

~Ulrika~


That was old news...I was working on the what-really-happened, talking to my publicist, editor, etc. etc.

To be continued...




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Ulrika Zugzwang
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07-19-2005 20:16
From: Merwan Marker
That was old news...I was working on the what-really-happened, talking to my publicist, editor, etc. etc.
Are you suggesting you'd come forward with all the sordid details of the whole SLEx affair? I'd buy that book! :D

~Ulrika~
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blaze Spinnaker
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07-19-2005 21:35
From: someone

My point is that it is difficult to put trust in people that aid the distribution of, and profit from, objects that bring nothing but negative results to all of SL. Certain moral decisions are obvious. Promoting items that do nothing but discourage people from using SL is a self defeating action. Censorship is not always a bad thing. Every retailer in the world does it daily when they decide which products to put on the shelf.


Woooah, hang on there buddy. Philip has bought my atomic bomb. It may not float your boat, but a lot of people have fun with weapons in SL. It's called entertainment! Which, last I heard, was what SL was all about according to the Lindens.
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07-30-2005 20:41
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
SLExchange is owned by individuals who do not adhere to high standards of conduct. I personally do not trust SLExchange either as a customer or as a citizen of SL.


I would say only person who do not adhere to high standards of conduct is you, Ulrika. You are obsessed with my person because a) you are jealous b) you know how little respect I have for you. But this does not excuse your slandering other people. Please stop spilling your venom now, nobody want read it anymore.
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