Ageplay more evil than Dolcett?

I just wanted to interject here that not all ageplay involves childlike play. Ageplay is a broad term. It is another form of D/s in ways, it gives up power, authority to another. I have a pick in my profile that specifies I do not RP a child, nor do I ever RP being /with/ a child. Unfortunately the vast majority in SL seem to use Ageplay as a way to RP being or being with "kids". That personally turns me off, but I respect others' rights to do so. I simply do not involve myself in it. The same should go for anyone who finds something they dislike in this world. If you dont want to be part of it, dont. Period.

Have a nice day

At least you've got SL to keep you up to date with the latest!

Quite.

<wipes brow> whew, thought I was the only one for a minute

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(from http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ad361896/anne/cease/rapestatisticspage.html)

* In the United States, 1.3 women are raped every minute. That results in 78 rapes each hour, 1872 rapes each day, 56160 rapes ech month and 683,280 rapes each year.
* 1 out of every 3 American women will be sexually assulted in her lifetime.
* The United States has the world's highest rape rate of the countries that publish such statistics. It's 4 times higher than Germany, 13 times higher than England, and 20 times higher than Japan.
* 1 in 7 women will be raped by her husband.
* 83% of rape cases are ages 24 or under.
* 1 in 4 college women have either been raped or suffered attempted rape.
* 1 in 12 males students surveyed had commited acts that met the legal definition of rape. Furthermore, 84% of the men who had commited such acts said what they had done was definitely not rape.
* 75% of male students and 55% of female students involved in acquintance rape had been drinking or using drugs.
* Only 16% of rapes are ever reported to the police.
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<<it seems highly unlikely to me 1 in 3 women are into rape play >>

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from (http://www.darkness2light.org/KnowAbout/statistics_2.asp)

# 1 in 4 girls is sexually abused before the age of 18.
# 1 in 6 boys is sexually abused before the age of 18.
# 1 in 5 children are solicited sexually while on the internet.
# Nearly 70% of all reported sexual assaults (including assaults on adults) occur to children ages 17 and under.
# An estimated 39 million survivors of childhood sexual abuse exist in America today.
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<<it seems equally unlikely 1 in 4 women are interested in age play>>

Of course the statistics over lap - but bear in mind many women who were abused as children were later raped as adults also.

The fact is the Incidents of unreported sexual abuse I am positive far exceeds the number of people who have secret IRL age and rape play fetishes.


Im reasonably certain that more women have been sexual abused than engage in BDSM / Gor/ Age play / rape play / defication play / the canibalism you mentioned / vampire kink, etc, etc. combined.


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According to the 1990 Kinsey Institute New Report on Sex, released by St. Martin's Press:

"Researchers estimate that 5 percent to 10 percent of the U.S. population engages in diverse sexual practices for sexual pleasure on at least an occasional basis, with most incidents being either mild or staged activities involving no real pain or violence." That would bring the number of practitioners into the millions, with many, many more who do things like love bites or holding their lover's hands down. Say "Most are just like your neighbors, doctor, bus driver, even your sister or uncle. There are probably 1 in 10 people in your office who practice SM as a loving form of sexual expression."
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1 in 10 is less than 1 in 4 or 1 in 3



Again my point is age play effects more people than cannibalism as far as similarity to actual abuse based on frequency.

so would rape play.

*laughs hard* Not hardly!

No don't! We're overworked, too!

Its actually part of my job

Just in case he doesn't believe it's old news,

http://news.com.com/Phony+kids,+virtual+sex/2100-1043_3-6060132.html

Age play gets a much worse rap than it deserves.

First, true age play is not really about children at all. It is about adults who wish to act like and be treated like somebody of a certain younger age. For some, this preferred age (an age fixation, if you will) becomes sexualized also. For others, the Age Play is actually not sexualized at all. I know – many do not get the distinction, but it is about consenting adults playing roles, and not about real children at all. From the adult role of the age play, the adult player who is really doing age play is into the fact that there is another adult being treated like a child, not into children. The adult role in age play is usually a person into D/S type power roles.

One of the problems for SL is that the consenting adult can create an avatar with a child’s appearance, thus leading to confusion. In reality (RL or FL and maybe even Florida), the adult who is into age play remains an adult, but not necessarily so in SL. This makes SL both a prime vehicle for age play (an adult can truly play out as a child) and an easy way to confuse Age Play with pedophilia. The child avatar of the age player could attract those actually into sex with children. So it is understandable why a club owner would not wish entry by child avatars. From the outside appearances, Age Play with a Child Avatar and sexual relations with a child are not easily distinguishable.

I am most intrigued by those who have experienced molestation and then express their condemnation of Age Play. What they seem to not understand is that the individual who is into Age Play has frequently experienced their own emotional, physical or sexual trauma that resulted in the age fixation. Age Play and Age Play fetishism can be a manifestation of the same problem that others base their condemnation. Try to move from condemnation to compassion.

Age Play is much more common in mild forms than most would care to admit. Walk into any RL strip club and count the “School Girl” outfits. And it is in no way limited to strip clubs.

As for Dolcett Play, I was not familiar with it. Now I will have a new set of intrusive thoughts the next time I am tempted to utter “Eat me”.

lol

Hmmm...

Bob Dole?

The question becomes, then, exactly how can something happening privately or in likeminded company affect people who do not participate?

And Burnam, please explain how the hell Ageplay violates the TOS, especialyl considering it seems that Dolcett does not.

We're their investors, you know. Well, us and big fat government stipends.

You can't root anything out of SL without triggering ye olde slippery slope.

So I think what I'll do is just send you an IM telling you where to see it from time to time, let you cry foul and report it a few times, watch as you get depressed when LL does nothing and the media doesn't see a story in it (beyond the occasional internet article that gets flamed as bad as your opinion here), and probably quit.

It's already been to the courts of public opinion, and met with a hung jury on the "is it OK" concept, but acknowledgement of the slippery slope banning it would put everyone on, the precept of keeping eyes wide shut is seen as the best alternative.

Here you are:



Unless LL supports Child-Av sexuality... it is grossly in violation of the TOS. Regular age-play, as in "acting the age of the av" would not be a violation, but I cannot fathom LL supporting the role-play of child rape.

They don't support it.

But they don't deem it harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tort-causing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable as a company.


So they neither support, nor defame it. Therefore, not a violation of the TOS. If they did, they'd be doing something about it.

Well, I suppose I am going to have to dig for some answers, and decide the best course of action to take from there.

I'll be your personal tourguide through hell if you want. Just bring a barf-bucket, we're going to a cookout!

For a resident who uses a peace sign, you sure sound warlike. Maybe it's just me, but "The Court of Public Opinion" sounds a lot like "Witch Hunt" to me. A couple of opinionated and probably controversial thoughts follow.

For all the talk on consensuality, what about the privacy aspect? It begins to sound like ageplay orgies and cannibal roasts are going on daily at the Welcome Center....what's your opinion??? If something is private, it really is None Of Our Business.

Here's another thing I think gets missed in these threads: you are responsible for your own behavior. You don't sexplay in RL with children anymore than you slice rump roast in RL off your lover...and it should be self-evident that you don't force yourself, sexually or otherwise, onto anyone. People, in their righteous zeal, tend to forget that there's another side to "Don't Be a Predator". That side is "Don't Be a Victim". If you're on SL, and don't like what you're seeing, Log Off. Take responsibility for your own personality.

People shouldn't be bastards...but they are. We have to deal with these assholes on a daily basis...and yes, sometimes they can get violently, emotionaly, and physically abusive. You can't stop that...there's no switch that magically controls other people's personalities. You can take control of your own personality.

I don't mean to sound harsh to people who've survived abuse or rape. But I'm also sure that those people also understand the importance of taking control. If more people took control of their own situations, a lot less abuse would happen.

depends on how private is private

Considering that in SL any fetish is automatically marketed in umpteen million malls.

Maybe though if the actual cyber sex acts of teen avs , etc were kept only in private areas would be less a issue of contention.

Edit - Id include marketing designed to suggest such too needing kept private

Liona, I think I love you a little for that post.

Sadly, you're about to be flamed, largely by people who will claim that victims are somehow exempt from personal responsibility. People just aren't ready to be realistic enough to acknowledge that you CAN make yourself a target for some of these heinous things IRL by doing things that "should" be safe and are not, among other issues involving their own choices.

It's the same mentality that keeps many victims victims long after they were victimized in the first place.

I think they are both wrong.


I WIN!!!!!

Quiet Cheesecakeboy! You're dessert!

I don't taste good, ask my wife. She is always spitting................









I wish to apologize for the above joke but I couldn't resist

Ergle! Wait a sec; are you saying that sexual ageplay is happening in obviously public areas, Colette? If that were the case, I would have to agree that such behavior is *not* appropriate to occur in public. Heck, *any* kind of sexplay is not something that should be happening on public property... Private and Consensual should be the guidelines to such things.

Mmmmmmm....Cheesecake.