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Mocc Spatula

Death to all fanatics!

Join date: 6 Apr 2006

Posts: 303

07-12-2006 10:12

From: David Valentino

I belong to the religion of "Wait and See", since no one on earth really has a clue to the afterlife, and we will all find out if there is one soon enough, and what it will be like.

I just try and lead a relatively good life, and do more good than harm.

Sounds a little like the 21st Century version of Pascal's Wager

Very Keynes

LSL is a Virus

Join date: 6 May 2006

Posts: 484

07-12-2006 10:51

Im an agnostic dislexic insomniac.
I lay awake at night wonderiing if ther realy is a Dog.

Christopher Omega

Oxymoron

Join date: 28 Mar 2003

Posts: 1,828

07-12-2006 11:07

From: Ravenous Dingo

agnostic.

which is different than atheism in that we say we dont know because the question of gods existance or lack thereof can't be answered, since there is no scientific way to do so.

atheists believe it can be answered and the answer is no.

Occam's Razor

Ravenous Dingo

Registered User

Join date: 25 Feb 2005

Posts: 78

07-12-2006 12:46

ys, occam is kool
it doesnt change the fact that existance or lack existance of god cant be determined.
its a question that cant be answered, so i dont waste time trying to assert i know one way or teh other.
no human can.
i wont try to convince anyone tho, because i think peeps should be entitled to their beliefs, whatever they might be.
i do find it funny how passioate and evangelical some atheist are tho.
bottom line is no one can prove one way or the other
and thats the position i take, because it is the most rational to me.
others are welcome to believe as they may
they are even welcome to believe their negative assertations arent beliefs
there is a lot of comfort in believing one has the answer to an unanserable question and i wont try to take that away from any1.
itz all good.

peace.

Alan Barbecue

Registered User

Join date: 21 May 2006

Posts: 78

07-12-2006 13:36

I'm on the fence right now between Athiest and Agnostic. I was a practicing pagan for about 10 years and as I did more and more reading and became more educated about science and the world around me I have drifted away.

I would love to think that there is some guiding force or that there is something more mystical to reality than, well, reality but I'm about ready to let it go and put all my eggs into the "do everything you can to improve society and the world around you in this lifetime because after it's over you don't get a second chance and the only way you will be alive is in memory" basket.

I never wanted kids before and to this day I volunteer in organizations in RL that I think will make the world a better place but now that I'm on the verge of dropping religion all together I realize that if I want people to remember me I better become 1. rich (foundations baby!) or 2. have kids so that my values and feelings on the world will carry on and hopefully make future generations better...

Then I continue sitting here and posting messages in SL forums :^).

Patroklus Murakami

Social Democrat

Join date: 17 Sep 2005

Posts: 164

07-12-2006 13:43

It's a shame you couldn't include some more mainstream religions, like Oprahism or voodoo

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Eryn Curie

Lost in the fog

Join date: 24 May 2004

Posts: 205

07-12-2006 15:02

From: Warda Kawabata

Um, you do realise scientologists are technically (ie they claim to be) Christians? And teh Church of the Subgenius was created as a direct parody of them, so the two could be considered polar opposites in many ways?

Actually, Warda...you may want to look a bit closer at what L. Ron Hubbard himself had to say about Christianity (I do believe he's on record saying that Christ was a false memory implant; here is a good link where you can not only read about it, but listen to audio of Hubbard speaking about it. Here also. There are many other places where you can read about Scientology's stance on Christianity and other religions).

So, yeah, in no way did Scientology have its roots in Christianity nor do they claim to have them. I think Scientology does, however, like to give the *impression* that they do with their symbol which resembles a cross.

I didn't know that about the Subgenius thing, though. That's pretty funny.

kornation Bommerang

cant spell, wont spell

Join date: 13 Jan 2005

Posts: 125

07-12-2006 15:44

i love how people simple say 'my religeon is ....'

ive studied various religions (having various religious documentarys - attendinmg various religious events etc) and have yet to see a 'true religion'

when someone says 'i am a Christian' and goes drinking, swearing etc - they are not a christian - they are a beleiver of the formular/statis/IDEAS of that religion - they read the religion to suit them

all religions are based to interpritation - ive attended congressions/ khutba (muslim sermon)/ eagle dance (native american - deer tribe event)/ Caste (hindu teachings) and moots (various pagen religions) - even read part of the dianetics book and been to a teaching session (scientology)

even got myself apointed as a minister of the church of life (the church of all religions)

so what is my religion? all and neither of the above - my beleifs takes the parts of the above i beleive in - the parts that stand above others as 'right' in my mind

my religion is 'Kornation'

(althou i still beleive scientology is the most fictitious and downright corrupt - but that is my beleif)

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baystreet434 Avis

Registered User

Join date: 12 Jul 2006

Posts: 19

07-12-2006 16:10

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Juro Kothari

Like a dog on a bone

Join date: 4 Sep 2003

Posts: 4,418

07-12-2006 16:36

I think one posting of that message was enough, baystreet. Now, it's just boring and repetitive.

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Selador Cellardoor

Registered User

Join date: 16 Nov 2003

Posts: 3,082

07-12-2006 17:08

From: Reitsuki Kojima

For a lot of people it is.

A lack of belief cannot be a belief.

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Selador Cellardoor

Registered User

Join date: 16 Nov 2003

Posts: 3,082

07-12-2006 17:09

Great. I get spam in my email account. I get spam in my hotmail account. I get spam through my letterbox. I get spam on my telephone. Now I get bloody spam in the Second Life forums!

*not pleased*

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Zapoteth Zaius

Is back

Join date: 14 Feb 2004

Posts: 5,634

07-12-2006 17:13

I like what Bill Bailey said about religion in part troll.

"Most people, when pushed will write, Jedi."

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Angelique LaFollette

Registered User

Join date: 17 Jun 2004

Posts: 1,595

07-12-2006 19:45

From: Selador Cellardoor

A lack of belief cannot be a belief.

I don't beleive that.

Angel.

Gabe Lippmann

"Phone's ringing, Dude."

Join date: 14 Jun 2004

Posts: 4,219

07-12-2006 20:13

Regla de Ocha

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Blueman Steele

Registered User

Join date: 28 Dec 2004

Posts: 1,038

07-12-2006 21:35

wow so far even though most atheists don't like it called a "religion" enough have clicked it to make it the most popular so far.

Jauani Wu

pancake rabbit

Join date: 7 Apr 2003

Posts: 3,835

07-12-2006 21:59

those are the strangest associations i've ever seen. thus i could not respond.

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Devlin Gallant

Thought Police

Join date: 18 Jun 2003

Posts: 5,948

07-13-2006 03:09

From: Selador Cellardoor

Atheism isn't a belief system.

Is it a lack-of-belief system?

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Warda Kawabata

Amityville Horror

Join date: 4 Nov 2005

Posts: 1,300

07-13-2006 04:05

From: Devlin Gallant

Is it a lack-of-belief system?

I don't believe it!

Alazarin Mondrian

Teh Trippy Hippie Dragon

Join date: 4 Apr 2005

Posts: 1,549

07-13-2006 05:40

Behold The Invisible Pink Unicorn!

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Selador Cellardoor

Registered User

Join date: 16 Nov 2003

Posts: 3,082

07-13-2006 06:30

From: Devlin Gallant

Is it a lack-of-belief system?

No, it's a lack-of-belief lack-of-a-system.

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Selador Cellardoor

Registered User

Join date: 16 Nov 2003

Posts: 3,082

07-13-2006 06:34

From: Alazarin Mondrian

Behold The Invisible Pink Unicorn!

Blessed be Her Hooves!

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Briana Dawson

Attach to Mouth

Join date: 23 Sep 2003

Posts: 5,855

uhm, satan?

07-13-2006 06:38

I'd love to know who the satanist are.

They're an even funnier group than the devout worshippers of god.

Briana Dawson

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Kevn Klein

God is Love!

Join date: 5 Nov 2004

Posts: 3,422

07-13-2006 06:58

From: Briana Dawson

I'd love to know who the satanist are.

They're an even funnier group than the devout worshippers of god.

Briana Dawson

Satanists don't believe in Satan.

Ananda Sandgrain

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Join date: 16 May 2003

Posts: 1,951

07-13-2006 07:52

From: Selador Cellardoor

A lack of belief cannot be a belief.

There are definitely a lot of people who devoutly believe that there isn't a God.

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Religion Roll-Call!
Mocc Spatula Death to all fanatics! Join date: 6 Apr 2006 Posts: 303	07-12-2006 10:12 From: David Valentino I belong to the religion of "Wait and See", since no one on earth really has a clue to the afterlife, and we will all find out if there is one soon enough, and what it will be like. I just try and lead a relatively good life, and do more good than harm. Sounds a little like the 21st Century version of Pascal's Wager
Very Keynes LSL is a Virus Join date: 6 May 2006 Posts: 484	07-12-2006 10:51 Im an agnostic dislexic insomniac. I lay awake at night wonderiing if ther realy is a Dog.
Christopher Omega Oxymoron Join date: 28 Mar 2003 Posts: 1,828	07-12-2006 11:07 From: Ravenous Dingo agnostic. which is different than atheism in that we say we dont know because the question of gods existance or lack thereof can't be answered, since there is no scientific way to do so. atheists believe it can be answered and the answer is no. Occam's Razor
Ravenous Dingo Registered User Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 78	07-12-2006 12:46 ys, occam is kool it doesnt change the fact that existance or lack existance of god cant be determined. its a question that cant be answered, so i dont waste time trying to assert i know one way or teh other. no human can. i wont try to convince anyone tho, because i think peeps should be entitled to their beliefs, whatever they might be. i do find it funny how passioate and evangelical some atheist are tho. bottom line is no one can prove one way or the other and thats the position i take, because it is the most rational to me. others are welcome to believe as they may they are even welcome to believe their negative assertations arent beliefs there is a lot of comfort in believing one has the answer to an unanserable question and i wont try to take that away from any1. itz all good. peace.
Alan Barbecue Registered User Join date: 21 May 2006 Posts: 78	07-12-2006 13:36 I'm on the fence right now between Athiest and Agnostic. I was a practicing pagan for about 10 years and as I did more and more reading and became more educated about science and the world around me I have drifted away. I would love to think that there is some guiding force or that there is something more mystical to reality than, well, reality but I'm about ready to let it go and put all my eggs into the "do everything you can to improve society and the world around you in this lifetime because after it's over you don't get a second chance and the only way you will be alive is in memory" basket. I never wanted kids before and to this day I volunteer in organizations in RL that I think will make the world a better place but now that I'm on the verge of dropping religion all together I realize that if I want people to remember me I better become 1. rich (foundations baby!) or 2. have kids so that my values and feelings on the world will carry on and hopefully make future generations better... Then I continue sitting here and posting messages in SL forums :^).
Patroklus Murakami Social Democrat Join date: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 164	07-12-2006 13:43 It's a shame you couldn't include some more mainstream religions, like Oprahism or voodoo _____________________
Eryn Curie Lost in the fog Join date: 24 May 2004 Posts: 205	07-12-2006 15:02 From: Warda Kawabata Um, you do realise scientologists are technically (ie they claim to be) Christians? And teh Church of the Subgenius was created as a direct parody of them, so the two could be considered polar opposites in many ways? Actually, Warda...you may want to look a bit closer at what L. Ron Hubbard himself had to say about Christianity (I do believe he's on record saying that Christ was a false memory implant; here is a good link where you can not only read about it, but listen to audio of Hubbard speaking about it. Here also. There are many other places where you can read about Scientology's stance on Christianity and other religions). So, yeah, in no way did Scientology have its roots in Christianity nor do they claim to have them. I think Scientology does, however, like to give the impression that they do with their symbol which resembles a cross. I didn't know that about the Subgenius thing, though. That's pretty funny.
kornation Bommerang cant spell, wont spell Join date: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 125	07-12-2006 15:44 i love how people simple say 'my religeon is ....' ive studied various religions (having various religious documentarys - attendinmg various religious events etc) and have yet to see a 'true religion' when someone says 'i am a Christian' and goes drinking, swearing etc - they are not a christian - they are a beleiver of the formular/statis/IDEAS of that religion - they read the religion to suit them all religions are based to interpritation - ive attended congressions/ khutba (muslim sermon)/ eagle dance (native american - deer tribe event)/ Caste (hindu teachings) and moots (various pagen religions) - even read part of the dianetics book and been to a teaching session (scientology) even got myself apointed as a minister of the church of life (the church of all religions) so what is my religion? all and neither of the above - my beleifs takes the parts of the above i beleive in - the parts that stand above others as 'right' in my mind my religion is 'Kornation' (althou i still beleive scientology is the most fictitious and downright corrupt - but that is my beleif) _____________________ Live Life Lagged (tm)
baystreet434 Avis Registered User Join date: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 19	07-12-2006 16:10 [deleted spam]
Juro Kothari Like a dog on a bone Join date: 4 Sep 2003 Posts: 4,418	07-12-2006 16:36 I think one posting of that message was enough, baystreet. Now, it's just boring and repetitive. _____________________
Selador Cellardoor Registered User Join date: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 3,082	07-12-2006 17:08 From: Reitsuki Kojima For a lot of people it is. A lack of belief cannot be a belief. _____________________
Selador Cellardoor Registered User Join date: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 3,082	07-12-2006 17:09 Great. I get spam in my email account. I get spam in my hotmail account. I get spam through my letterbox. I get spam on my telephone. Now I get bloody spam in the Second Life forums! not pleased _____________________
Zapoteth Zaius Is back Join date: 14 Feb 2004 Posts: 5,634	07-12-2006 17:13 I like what Bill Bailey said about religion in part troll. "Most people, when pushed will write, Jedi." _____________________ I have the right to remain silent. Anything I say will be misquoted and used against me. --------------- Zapoteth Designs, Temotu (100,50) ---------------
Angelique LaFollette Registered User Join date: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,595	07-12-2006 19:45 From: Selador Cellardoor A lack of belief cannot be a belief. I don't beleive that. Angel.
Gabe Lippmann "Phone's ringing, Dude." Join date: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 4,219	07-12-2006 20:13 Regla de Ocha _____________________ go to Nocturnal Threads
Blueman Steele Registered User Join date: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,038	07-12-2006 21:35 wow so far even though most atheists don't like it called a "religion" enough have clicked it to make it the most popular so far.
Jauani Wu pancake rabbit Join date: 7 Apr 2003 Posts: 3,835	07-12-2006 21:59 those are the strangest associations i've ever seen. thus i could not respond. _____________________ http://wu-had.blogspot.com/ read my blog Mecha Jauani Wu hero of justice __________________________________________________ "Oh Jauani, you're terrible." - khamon fate
Devlin Gallant Thought Police Join date: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 5,948	07-13-2006 03:09 From: Selador Cellardoor Atheism isn't a belief system. Is it a lack-of-belief system? _____________________ I LIKE children, I've just never been able to finish a whole one.
Warda Kawabata Amityville Horror Join date: 4 Nov 2005 Posts: 1,300	07-13-2006 04:05 From: Devlin Gallant Is it a lack-of-belief system? I don't believe it!
Alazarin Mondrian Teh Trippy Hippie Dragon Join date: 4 Apr 2005 Posts: 1,549	07-13-2006 05:40 Behold The Invisible Pink Unicorn! ----- BBHHH ----- _____________________ My stuff on Meta-Life: http://tinyurl.com/ykq7nzt http://www.myspace.com/alazarinmobius http://slurl.com/secondlife/Crescent/72/98/116
Selador Cellardoor Registered User Join date: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 3,082	07-13-2006 06:30 From: Devlin Gallant Is it a lack-of-belief system? No, it's a lack-of-belief lack-of-a-system. _____________________
Selador Cellardoor Registered User Join date: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 3,082	07-13-2006 06:34 From: Alazarin Mondrian Behold The Invisible Pink Unicorn! Blessed be Her Hooves! _____________________
Briana Dawson Attach to Mouth Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,855	uhm, satan? 07-13-2006 06:38 I'd love to know who the satanist are. They're an even funnier group than the devout worshippers of god. Briana Dawson _____________________ WooT ------------------------------ http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/
Kevn Klein God is Love! Join date: 5 Nov 2004 Posts: 3,422	07-13-2006 06:58 From: Briana Dawson I'd love to know who the satanist are. They're an even funnier group than the devout worshippers of god. Briana Dawson Satanists don't believe in Satan.
Ananda Sandgrain +0- Join date: 16 May 2003 Posts: 1,951	07-13-2006 07:52 From: Selador Cellardoor A lack of belief cannot be a belief. There are definitely a lot of people who devoutly believe that there isn't a God. _____________________

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