Why does it seem the SL population hates Christians?

Good catch. I like being a heretic better than a heathen. Heathen is too prettified and PC.

Also, its not so much as I accept or reject " the word of god" I just chose to do my own thing and not be a part of something I don't fully believe or that no matter how much I believe would chose to condemn me to hell for questioning and for life decisions and personal philosophies.

Interesting that the only abuse report mentioned in this thread so far was filed by a Christian. That says something to me about tolerance, or a lack of it.

This is one of those things I don't like about any religion I know of. In all of them, if you don't do something, then you are royally screwed.
If a god is truly loving and caring, then it doesn't matter who you believe in, and what rules you follow if you are doing good things (e.g helping others, causing no harm and generally aspiring to be selfless...from time to time). If a god (or gods) would condemn you to an eternity in some hellfire for being a nice person but believing in UFOs from Uranus, then they are not worthy of being worshipped (IMO) as I only respect people/entities who are good, ie not arrogant, jealous and hateful.
I've not heard of a religion with a god who loves you no matter what you believe in. If there is one then I'd be interested to learn about it!

The books that were compiled in 326 CE may say that people are going to hell, but....

"Wheres the Proof?" Think: Book of Judas... Revelation of Peter Books left out of the bible for PERSONAL reasons... makes the bible crediability questionable.

The ultimate truths of Scientology are rather basic and can be found in the first few sections of either book I mentioned. Everything else is just things people may run into along the way to trying to achieve spiritual awareness and ability.

Doesn't hurt me mate - not my truth. But your attitude is quite like theirs, and that's my opinion. Offending you isn't a violation; I didn't attack you. I merely offended you.

Speaking of truth, maybe you can answer these questions I have about some other "truths" directly from the Bible:

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. Can you settle this?

Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?

I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play American football if I wear gloves?

My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev.24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev.20:14)

Okay, now I'll wait for the part where you say that doesn't count somehow. Googling for Dr. Laura is such a beautiful thing.

Regards,

-Flip

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Unfortunately non-believers won't accept the infallability of the Bible because God put it in there... however I do believe that those other books (part of the 'gnostic' beliefs) were left out for the simple reason that they are fakes.

I know that with the "Da Vinci Code" popular at the moment lots of people are looking at it and saying how wonderful it all is - but don't think of the fact that none of it fits in with the rest of the Bible, and much of it completely contradicts the rest of it. God's plan is made simple so that all may accept it - that's clearly stated - so why would He create 'secret knowledge' that would be limited to only a few people, that requires 'special initiation' to unlock?

Lewis

I'm simply suggesting that if you want to find out what Scientology is actually about, you ought to read a Scientology book. If you want to find out what Christianity is actually about you should read the Bible.

Why do I have to be baptized to be accepted into heaven?

Why is sex out of wedlock a sin?

Why can't I eat bacon if I don't want to go to hell?

Why can't I masturbate if I don't want to burn, FOREVER, in a pit of fire and brimstone?

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Unfortunately non-believers won't accept the infallability of the Bible because God put it in there... however I do believe that those other books (part of the 'gnostic' beliefs) were left out for the simple reason that they are fakes.

I know that with the "Da Vinci Code" popular at the moment lots of people are looking at it and saying how wonderful it all is - but don't think of the fact that none of it fits in with the rest of the Bible, and much of it completely contradicts the rest of it. God's plan is made simple so that all may accept it - that's clearly stated - so why would He create 'secret knowledge' that would be limited to only a few people, that requires 'special initiation' to unlock?

Lewis

You could be ultimately sacrilicious and wrap your wang in bacon, use holy water as lube and have it off

Unfortunately non-believers won't accept the infallability of the Bible because God put it in there... however I do believe that those other books (part of the 'gnostic' beliefs) were left out for the simple reason that they are fakes.

Lewis

You could be ultimately sacrilicious and wrap your wang in bacon, use holy water as lube and have it off

get out of the way! Jenn's on the proverbial toboggan ride to hell and she's headed right for us!

The First Testimate was beleived to be the infallable word of God.

Actually the DaVinci Code seems to address people making knowledge secret, not God.

But along your thread, the Bible is not infallible because I asked God, and God said, "yeah, they totally torched that one, just ask me instead". I'd say God is more likely to be infallible than the Bible. And who are you to say such a conversation didn't happen?

Why do I have to be baptized to be accepted into heaven?

Why is sex out of wedlock a sin?

Why can't I eat bacon if I don't want to go to hell?

Why can't I masturbate if I don't want to burn, FOREVER, in a pit of fire and brimstone?

Besides.. If God's so miraculous why didn't he drop a Bible on everyone's doorstep, that was universally understood by every human being in the world?

The DaVinci Code and everything else written by Dan Brown is very likely to be utter crap, IMHO. Last book of his I read was "Digital Fortress". The subject is encryption. I found it mind boggling how there could be so much nonsense in a book about a subject that's not all that hard to understand (basics of it), and for which explanations exist all over the net written in a very readable language that doesn't require more math knowledge than what you learn in primary school.

The way the book is written makes it clear the author didn't even bother to do any basic research of the subject. Of course, I don't expect Dan Brown to be an expert in the matter, but there's such incredible nonsense in that book that I have serious doubt that the rest of his stuff is any better. The mistakes aren't just about encryption, for instance he's got a really weird idea about how email works.

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So it's conscious decision you are making, rather than a decision made 'on your behalf' when you are a child.

I guess because a stable family unit of a married couple is the best way to bring up a child?

You can eat bacon. No animal is considered 'unclean' any more.

Because it affects your eyesight, and if you arenfg vawerrefasdelklj topiuy m,.ioufgt erndf jip nmistuyopionfg sdrtusdfsdf.

It's all very simple, it's merely stubborn pride and thinking that humans are the highest lifeform in existance, and refusal to accept that we were created for a purpose - and the substitution of other theories (of which there is less evidence than creation) to try and explain away our existance.

Lewis

So it's conscious decision you are making, rather than a decision made 'on your behalf' when you are a child.




Why not a commune? Or a gaggle of grandmothers? Or a gay/lesbian couple? There exists other solutions, many of which work, and have worked.



So that whole God commanding people not to eat unclean animals doesn't pertain anymore? If so, why? Would that make God fallible?



Okay, that made me laugh out loud. Nice.




I counter with "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy", because you dodged it.

Oh shit....he believes....OK the only way it will affect your eyesight is if you're projectally gifted and shoot yourself in the eye.

You are very mistaken, YES THEY WILL! Have you not heard of those groups of mulsums attacking liquor stores in Los Angles? Yes, they will tell you. Also they have no respect for the non believer and limited respect in christians which they call followers of the book. Dont you remember thr trial of the Christian in Kabual because he converted from a Mulsum into a Christian and the penality for that is death?

A Muslim has never harassed me in the street trying to convert me. A Muslim has never told me "You're going to hell."

I don't know the whole details of the OT III incident, but I would like to point out to you that it is merely a description of a discovered incident, not the Ultimate Truth in Scientology.