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Michael Seraph
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12-11-2005 13:05
From: ZsuZsanna Raven
I am 30 yrs old and have never voted. I have not seen anyone that is worth my vote...



As long as you don't bitch about who got elected. No voting = no bitching.
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12-11-2005 13:29
From: Michael Seraph
As long as you don't bitch about who got elected. No voting = no bitching.


Normally I agree with that, but I think this is an extreme circumstance.

You don't have to have hand-selected the chef to complain about him pissing in the creme brulee.
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12-11-2005 13:37
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No ones done this yet? Oh alright..

This will not end well..

I'm in the UK, so didn't have the chance.. But I always said I'd vote for Barney the Dinosaur over bush..


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12-11-2005 13:41
From: Jonquille Noir
Normally I agree with that, but I think this is an extreme circumstance.

You don't have to have hand-selected the chef to complain about him pissing in the creme brulee.



Got to disagree here. If men and women had died to give you the opportunity to help pick the chef and you couldn't be bothered, then shut the f up and eat your creme brulee. Voting isn't about who "deserves" your vote. It's about keeping democracy healthy. It's about respecting the amazing political experiment that we call the United States. And respecting the people who've put their lives on the line over the centuries to keep that experiment going.

Sheesh, I get all riled up like that. You'd never know I was a liberal, atheist, homo would you?
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12-11-2005 14:04
I voted for him - twice. I voted for his father also - twice.

At the time of each election, the alternatives were far worse than anything either Bush offered.

Do I regret those votes now? Not once, not ever.

((Have I ever voted Democrat? Yep once.. and America was held hostage for 444 days by Carter's inaction and indecision. Now, THAT was a vote I have come to regret.))
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12-11-2005 14:12
I have more respect for someone who votes even if they voted for an asshole. At least they are involved. If all the choices suck, then it's time to get involved, not time to sit back and watch the carnage.

Does anyone have the numbers handy for the percentage of eligible voters who actually vote?
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12-11-2005 14:41
I voted for Clinton, Al Gore, and John Kerry. I did, however, vote for Jeb Bush, who I think has been an excellent governor of Florida and would be a hell of a lot better president than his fucktard of a brother.
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12-11-2005 15:14
In the Bush v.s. Gore election I wrote in Liz Dole. I didn't like either guy.
Bush v.s. Kerry I voted for Bush. There is a old irish saying "better to go with the devil
you know, than the devil you don't know" After seeing the boy down the street come home in a casket Friday I am not sure if that was such a good idea.

I wish we had a NOTA (None of the above) slot on the ballot.
If they keep putting morons on the ballot like they have in the past, I may not vote at all
in the next election.

Rox

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12-11-2005 15:20
From: ZsuZsanna Raven
I am 30 yrs old and have never voted. I have not seen anyone that is worth my vote...


This is why we have a retard in the White House. There are some who just don't believe in the system. Unfortunately, their numbers are large enough to really decide an election, should they choose to vote. Given our choices last time, I can't fault the ones who consiously chose not to vote. Would have been nice to have them pick a side, but (in my opinion) voting for someone "just because" or an uninformed vote is worse than not voting at all.
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12-11-2005 15:50
Men and women also fought and died so that we could bitch about our leaders, whether we voted or not.

From: Michael Seraph
Got to disagree here. If men and women had died to give you the opportunity to help pick the chef and you couldn't be bothered, then shut the f up and eat your creme brulee. Voting isn't about who "deserves" your vote. It's about keeping democracy healthy. It's about respecting the amazing political experiment that we call the United States. And respecting the people who've put their lives on the line over the centuries to keep that experiment going.

Sheesh, I get all riled up like that. You'd never know I was a liberal, atheist, homo would you?
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12-11-2005 21:08
To those who are saying they voted for Bush as they thought he was the 'lesser of two evils,' (whatever you want to think this is not a sarcastic challenge, but an honest question, I genuinely would like to know the answer) what exactly do you/did you have a problem with about Kerry?
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12-11-2005 22:10
From: Kazuo Murakami
I genuinely would like to know the answer) what exactly do you/did you have a problem with about Kerry?


His wife.
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12-12-2005 00:47
yes I voted for Bush and don't regret it. That's because I am informed unlike most Bush bashers. I have voted Democratic in the past. I try to choose the best person for the job, dem or rep. But what I also do is try to watch and read more than one network or newspaper to form my own opinion. I don't take the word of one network or other form of media or listen to someone and ape their opinion cause I'm too lazy to form my own. People need to look into the real facts before bashing. I think half the people complaing have never read a paper, or are too busy watching reruns of some sitcom to watch the news and think they are supporting whats most popular. Oh well, just my opinion...you asked for it :)
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12-12-2005 03:44
From: Surreal Farber
Seriously, my son's girlfriend voted for Bush and I am trying not to hold that against her as she is still quite young and from Texas. Education is possible. If she is crazy about my pagan, left-leaning, book reading son, then she can't be all stupid.
I'm from Texas. It turns out many Texans can read. A fair number read books. We even have schools and universities. Some professors living here are good enough to win Nobel prizes.

I didn't vote for Bush. I'm not happy he's president. If I had voted for Bush, I'm not sure I'd feel like telling you I had.

This country would be a happier place if we didn't assume our political opponents were morons or moral lepers.
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12-12-2005 05:09
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Did you vote for Bush ???
then what are you trying to do???
Your asshole is in Washington!! :eek:
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Billy Grace
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12-12-2005 06:25
I voted for President Bush twice and would again despite how the liberal media portrays him.
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12-12-2005 06:29
From: Billy Grace
I voted for President Bush twice and would again despite how the liberal media portrays him.


As a serious question. What has he done good for this country in his 5+ years in office? Seriously, list some things.
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12-12-2005 06:44
I am not sure how you can even ask that unless you are simply uninformed.

Off the top of my head.

Great economy
Stability of leadership (does not flip flop)
Freedom Broker in the middle east
No more terrorist attacks on US soil
Has not raised taxes
Has kept the military strong
Put Saddam behind bars
Promoted African Americans and minorities within his administration to higher levels than any President before him

Whether you agree or not it is quite possible that freedom will spread throughout the Middle East and President Bush will go down in history as a visionary and one of the greatest brokers of freedom in the history of the world. Yes, it is possible that it will not spread but by almost all accounts Iraq is a huge success at this point despite the constant negative press by the liberal media.

Compared to practically every major conflict in American history fewer of our soldiers have died and to make such a huge difference in our world. Also compare the American soldiers lives lost vs. the liberal media projections at the beginning of this war. Does anyone else remember how upon the initial push most newscasts were talking about how we were being defeated and how bad things were going until it became obvious that it was a smashing success? That is just one example of many.

This is my opinion, which you asked for. I am not interested in a flame war and would appreciate this thread not degrading.
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12-12-2005 06:59
From: Cristiano Midnight
I voted for Clinton, Al Gore, and John Kerry. I did, however, vote for Jeb Bush, who I think has been an excellent governor of Florida and would be a hell of a lot better president than his fucktard of a brother.

How I wish I was still a resident of FL. Jeb is definitely the best Gov. FL has had in a long time. You need to start a grass root movement and inundate him with encouragement to run for the Oval. I heard he has ruled out '08 but has backed away from the 'never' statement. That is encouraging.
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12-12-2005 07:24
From: Lecktor Hannibal
How I wish I was still a resident of FL. Jeb is definitely the best Gov. FL has had in a long time. You need to start a grass root movement and inundate him with encouragement to run for the Oval. I heard he has ruled out '08 but has backed away from the 'never' statement. That is encouraging.


Yeah, because clearly one of the people most responsible for the Terri Schiavo debacle, who manipulated someone else's tragedy for political gain, and continued to accuse the husband of wrong doing long after the case was closed, is just who we want in the oval office. No thanks!
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12-12-2005 07:55
From: Billy Grace
I am not sure how you can even ask that unless you are simply uninformed.

Off the top of my head.

Great economy
Stability of leadership (does not flip flop)
Freedom Broker in the middle east
No more terrorist attacks on US soil
Has not raised taxes
Has kept the military strong
Put Saddam behind bars
Promoted African Americans and minorities within his administration to higher levels than any President before him

Whether you agree or not it is quite possible that freedom will spread throughout the Middle East and President Bush will go down in history as a visionary and one of the greatest brokers of freedom in the history of the world. Yes, it is possible that it will not spread but by almost all accounts Iraq is a huge success at this point despite the constant negative press by the liberal media.

Compared to practically every major conflict in American history fewer of our soldiers have died and to make such a huge difference in our world. Also compare the American soldiers lives lost vs. the liberal media projections at the beginning of this war. Does anyone else remember how upon the initial push most newscasts were talking about how we were being defeated and how bad things were going until it became obvious that it was a smashing success? That is just one example of many.

This is my opinion, which you asked for. I am not interested in a flame war and would appreciate this thread not degrading.


Amen, and I can list many more! I voted for Bush and would again also. I could not imagine what the US would be like under John Kerry right now.

And no, im not a conservative religious right maniac. Especially considering where I hang out in SL. :)

And agreed on Jeb, he is a great here in florida!
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12-12-2005 08:06
From: Chip Midnight
Yeah, because clearly one of the people most responsible for the Terri Schiavo debacle, who manipulated someone else's tragedy for political gain, and continued to accuse the husband of wrong doing long after the case was closed, is just who we want in the oval office. No thanks!

I think you have Jeb confused with his brother.
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12-12-2005 08:16
From: Billy Grace
I am not sure how you can even ask that unless you are simply uninformed.

Off the top of my head.

Great economy
Stability of leadership (does not flip flop)
Freedom Broker in the middle east
No more terrorist attacks on US soil
Has not raised taxes
Has kept the military strong
Put Saddam behind bars
Promoted African Americans and minorities within his administration to higher levels than any President before him

Whether you agree or not it is quite possible that freedom will spread throughout the Middle East and President Bush will go down in history as a visionary and one of the greatest brokers of freedom in the history of the world. Yes, it is possible that it will not spread but by almost all accounts Iraq is a huge success at this point despite the constant negative press by the liberal media.

Compared to practically every major conflict in American history fewer of our soldiers have died and to make such a huge difference in our world. Also compare the American soldiers lives lost vs. the liberal media projections at the beginning of this war. Does anyone else remember how upon the initial push most newscasts were talking about how we were being defeated and how bad things were going until it became obvious that it was a smashing success? That is just one example of many.

This is my opinion, which you asked for. I am not interested in a flame war and would appreciate this thread not degrading.


Billy, your vote is a personal choice, and your right. Please don't take this as a flame - its not intended to be.

My personal politics are pretty moderate. I agree with many conservatives on economic issues, and agree with many liberals on social issues. I tend to vote Democratic, but give me a Moderate-to-Left leaning Republican, and they'll likely get my vote.

But, I have to ask... some of those criteria don't make sense to me:

-Great Economy

Really? Just speaking from the perspective of Michigan, our economy is looking pretty grim. Is it that much better elsewhere in the country? (Honest question, I'm seriously considering moving).

-Stability of leadership (does not flip flop)

You can spin this both ways - I don't think you can consider this automatically 'good' for the country. Personally, I'd rather have a President that was flexible than one that made a decision and refused to change it. Any president is human, and is apt to make mistakes from time to time. A lot of credibility points in my book if they can admit them.

The whole "Flip/Flop" argument in the last election really befuddled me. I was always asking myself "So...?". Not that Kerry was all that great. But I felt like "Flip/Flop" was a term invented by the spin machine.
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12-12-2005 08:35
Travis, the economy in MI is one of the worst and has been for a while. The situation plagues my work life to no end and has for a very, very long time.

As for the election, both parties are so similar in their actions (as opposed to election rhetoric) that you are simply chosing which aspects of the country you want crippled for the next four years while money is redirected to programs that will never be fulfilled prior to the next administration closing them down.

The elections are a power struggle between the parties, not the two pawns up for election. It is about PAC money and dirty dealing, on BOTH sides. The leaders of the respective parties are all grossly out of touch with the problems and concerns of the average citizen.

Regardless of who you cast a vote for, if you think that the country wouldn't be a raging chaotic mess either way, you are wrong. These people are all in bed together and they don't care about YOU.
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12-12-2005 09:01
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and not a very nice loosely based masonic group whilehe was at yale called skull and bones and so as kerry


That's normal ; like all presidents, Bush is an Illuminati pawn manipulated to make the world collapse and immanentize the Eschaton. (Massons are controled by the Illuminati.)
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