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Jake Reitveld
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11-11-2005 11:36
Ok so the plethora of "Ask [random name] Anything Threads" told me it was time to try something new. I will of courser still answer all questions put up in that forum. However I figured it was time try something else. It struck me that maybe the thing to do was to have a thread deadicated to the lost art of being a guy.

In this era of reality tv and make over shows there are literally thousands of people out there telling men how to dress, how to cook, how to be metro sexual and get in touch with your feminine side. Some of it is good information, but most of it is meant to rob men of the basic skills of bing a guy, so that we will buy the same hair and skin care products our girlfreinds do. Gradually the lore of Guyness is fading away, and soon being a guy will be lost, along with men's wearing hats and carrying canes.

But not hear my readers. Here I will answer your question related to guy skills of course. But also I will provide tips and pointers for general reference. More importantly, I invite all the other guys to share thier tips and insight into being a guy. Tell us what skills you think are essential to being an all around guy.


That being said I will start with the core truth of being a guy, the basic rule:

As a guy it is your job to make a woman feel safe. Whether she is your wife, your girlfriend, your wife's girlfreind (you lucky dog!), your sister, your mother, your secretary, or the woman sitting next to you on the airplane, it is your job to make her feel like in a pinch you will protect her from the world.

The trick (and nothing is simple when a woman is involved-if its easy you are doing it wrong) is that you have to make her feel safe without making her feel condescended to, disrespected, limited, unable or out of control. You have to make her feel safe while at the same time empowering her, showing her that she is your equal and really doesn't need you to make her feel safe, its just nice that you do. Its up to you to let her know that she can trust you to catch her when she falls while you help her soar (which she could really do without your help anyway).

Its complicated, but then noone said being a guy was easy.
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Kris Ritter
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11-11-2005 11:37
After you've finished taking the garbage out, Jakey, dear, the lawn needs mowing. And I'm not going to have time to walk the dog, either. Not if you want dinner tonight, anyway.
Chance Abattoir
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11-11-2005 11:37
I read "Jake's Guide to being a Gay."
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11-11-2005 11:40
From: Jake Reitveld
Ok so the plethora of "Ask [random name]More importantly, I invite all the other guys to share thier tips and insight into being a guy. Tell us what skills you think are essential to being an all around guy.


Stop being macho and read Iron John by Robert Bly.
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Cid Jacobs
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11-11-2005 11:43
From: Chance Abattoir
I read "Jake's Guide to being a Gay."

I swear that's what I saw at first as well... ;)
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Juro Kothari
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11-11-2005 11:43
Could we ammend this to 'Guide to being a straight guy'? ;)
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Mulch Ennui
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11-11-2005 11:44
From: Jake Reitveld
As a guy it is your job to make a woman feel safe. Whether she is your wife, your girlfriend, your wife's girlfreind (you lucky dog!), your sister, your mother, your secretary, or the woman sitting next to you on the airplane, it is your job to make her feel like in a pinch you will protect her from the world.


How long do you wait, according to good form, to try to knock at her "back door of love?"
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Kris Ritter
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11-11-2005 11:47
From: Mulch Ennui
How long do you wait, according to good form, to try to knock at her "back door of love?"


till she stops kicking you in the nuts when you try
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11-11-2005 11:50
From: Kris Ritter
till she stops kicking you in the nuts when you try


mmmm kay
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Jake Reitveld
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11-11-2005 12:30
Ok so having dispensed with the introduction, lets get right down to the nuts and bolts. We are going to start with the bar. Sooner or later you are going to be called upon in this life to make a drink. This might be for a woman, or it might be for your friends but sooner or later you are going to have to make drinks. So I came up with a basic list of drinks every guy should know how to make. (Serving beer or pouring shots does not count as making a drink). Your basic repitoire should include:

1. A Classic Martini (not one of those fruity silly drinks in disguise an Appletini is not, despite what most flair bars will tell you in thier menu, a martini) -

Put 3 oz of gin into a shaker of ice. Add 1 teaspoon of dry vermouth. Shake and strain over a chilled martini glass, and add an olive or lemon peel.

For a dry martini, put only the gin into a shaker with the ice. Put the vermouth in a chilled martini glass and swwirl it around, coating the the glass. dump the vermouth out of the glass, and add the shaken gin. Add a lemon peel, or an olive.

If you must, use vodka instead of gin, but nothing else is a martini.

2. A bullshot. Forget the egg, beer and tomato juice stuff you learned watching Cocktail, this is the best hair of the dog. Its also a damned good drink in the evening, and is a geniune guy drink -

Put 3 oz. of vodka into a shaker with 4 Oz. Of strong, cold beef boullion and 3-4 ice cubes, add salt and pepper to taste, and strain inot a wine glass or highball glass.

3. Something stupid and fruity that women will like. Every man needs at least one chick drink in his repetoire. I myself like the Zombie, but hey a good fuzzy navel will do in a pinch (shots of Jager, while defintely a chick drink, do not count) -

The zombie for two, (not for the faint of heart):

2 oz Dark rum
2 oz light rum
2 oz gold rum (or for the jake special, spiced rum)
1 0z 151
1 Oz Cherry heer
3 Oz Orange juice
1/2 oz Lemon or lime juice
2 dashes of grenadine for color.

Pour all ingredients into a shaker, mix and strain over ice. Garnish with Cherries and pinapple.

4. A chilled glass of champagne (this includes not using the cork as a projectile weapon to knock over a wine glass half a room away).

1. How to open the bottle- Hold the bottle at a 45 degree angle facing away from anything you might hit should things go wrong. Pell the foil and untwist the wiring to release the cage without removing it. Keeping your thumb on the cork at all times, puch down on the cork and twist the bottle to the right, moving it from side to side, releasing pressure. Once the pressure has seeped out, remove the cork with littel fanfare and loss of the bubbly.

2. How to pour- First of all champagne is served in a flute, not one of those plastic party glasses that look like marie antoinette's boobies. You hold the flute by the stem, not the glass (this is so you do not warm the chilled flute up with your hand. You wrape the neck of the bottle in a napking to catch the dribbles. Tilt the glass, and pour until 3/4's full.

5. A root beer float. Not all drinks are alchoholic, and one should be able to whip up this guilty pleasure to go with the popcorn while you are watching DVD's.

The trick here is whether the occaision demands frothy or not. For the very frothy effect, put the ice cream in the glass first. To reduce froth pour the root beer first. You'll want to use, if you can, A&W draft root beer.

6. A fresh pot of coffe.

Get and use a percolater to make your coffee. If you cannot, the secret to coffee is in the water. Use bottled or filtered water for the best pot.
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11-11-2005 12:31
*Settles back to enjoy this thread for the length of its duration.*

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Jake Reitveld
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11-11-2005 12:33
From: Juro Kothari
Could we ammend this to 'Guide to being a straight guy'? ;)


No. It works the same for straight guys as well as gay guys. The trappings are different, but the essentials remain the same. Straight or gay, there are just some things every guy should know how to do.
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11-11-2005 12:34
From: Mulch Ennui
How long do you wait, according to good form, to try to knock at her "back door of love?"

That reminds me of the "Dolphin Show" joke lol
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Jake Reitveld
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11-11-2005 12:35
From: Chance Abattoir
Stop being macho and read Iron John by Robert Bly.


I have read Iron John, and it is sensitivity training in another form. this is not about macho, its about guy lore. Maybe if we just started being guys and not trying to new men. or anything else, we'd be better off.
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JackBurton Faulkland
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11-11-2005 12:38
I eats my Spiniach like popeye but popeye was a sailor and sailors like "Seaman" shit I need to find a new role model.
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Dianne Mechanique
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11-11-2005 12:38
From: Jake Reitveld
... That being said I will start with the core truth of being a guy, the basic rule:

As a guy it is your job to make a woman feel safe. Whether she is your wife, your girlfriend, your wife's girlfreind (you lucky dog!), your sister, your mother, your secretary, or the woman sitting next to you on the airplane, it is your job to make her feel like in a pinch you will protect her from the world.

The trick (and nothing is simple when a woman is involved-if its easy you are doing it wrong) is that you have to make her feel safe without making her feel condescended to, disrespected, limited, unable or out of control. ...
I know your trying to be nice, and possibly funny, but I find most of this quite offensive.

I also note that you have failed horribly on your first attempt in that I cetainly *do* feel condecended to. Also what the heck does "without making her feel (like she is)... unable or out of control" mean?

Poor wittle girl get hysterical if big stwong man not around?
This is garbage.
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Jake Reitveld
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11-11-2005 12:38
From: Mulch Ennui
How long do you wait, according to good form, to try to knock at her "back door of love?"


Its not a question of time, as much as timing. Talk to her pay attention to her, learn how she makes love, learn how she fucks. It s all about trust, when she can trust you enough to reach her inner slut, then you will be suprised at where she will go. But you gotta earn that trust, and you gotta be ready to accept that she may never want to go there. A true lover shares and gives, and never takes or gets.
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Jake Reitveld
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11-11-2005 12:42
From: Dianne Mechanique
I know your trying to be nice, and possibly funny, but I find most of this quite offensive.

I also note that you have failed horribly on your first attempt in that I cetainly *do* feel condecended to. Also what the heck does "without making her feel (like she is)... unable or out of control" mean?

Poor wittle girl get hysterical if big stwong man not around?
This is garbage.


Oh controversy.

Actualy, Its says very much the opposite of "Poor wittle girl get hysterical if big stwong man not around." I would concur, such a statement in garbage. And it is very obvioulsy not the one I made.
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11-11-2005 12:47
From: Jake Reitveld
Ok so having dispensed with the introduction, lets get right down to the nuts and bolts. We are going to start with the bar. Sooner or later you are going to be called upon in this life to make a drink. This might be for a woman, or it might be for your friends but sooner or later you are going to have to make drinks. So I came up with a basic list of drinks every guy should know how to make. (Serving beer or pouring shots does not count as making a drink). Your basic repitoire should include:

1. A Classic Martini (not one of those fruity silly drinks in disguise an Appletini is not, despite what most flair bars will tell you in thier menu, a martini) -

Put 3 oz of gin into a shaker of ice. Add 1 teaspoon of dry vermouth. Shake and strain over a chilled martini glass, and add an olive or lemon peel.

For a dry martini, put only the gin into a shaker with the ice. Put the vermouth in a chilled martini glass and swwirl it around, coating the the glass. dump the vermouth out of the glass, and add the shaken gin. Add a lemon peel, or an olive.

If you must, use vodka instead of gin, but nothing else is a martini.

2. A bullshot. Forget the egg, beer and tomato juice stuff you learned watching Cocktail, this is the best hair of the dog. Its also a damned good drink in the evening, and is a geniune guy drink -

Put 3 oz. of vodka into a shaker with 4 Oz. Of strong, cold beef boullion and 3-4 ice cubes, add salt and pepper to taste, and strain inot a wine glass or highball glass.

3. Something stupid and fruity that women will like. Every man needs at least one chick drink in his repetoire. I myself like the Zombie, but hey a good fuzzy navel will do in a pinch (shots of Jager, while defintely a chick drink, do not count) -

The zombie for two, (not for the faint of heart):

2 oz Dark rum
2 oz light rum
2 oz gold rum (or for the jake special, spiced rum)
1 0z 151
1 Oz Cherry heer
3 Oz Orange juice
1/2 oz Lemon or lime juice
2 dashes of grenadine for color.

Pour all ingredients into a shaker, mix and strain over ice. Garnish with Cherries and pinapple.

4. A chilled glass of champagne (this includes not using the cork as a projectile weapon to knock over a wine glass half a room away).

1. How to open the bottle- Hold the bottle at a 45 degree angle facing away from anything you might hit should things go wrong. Pell the foil and untwist the wiring to release the cage without removing it. Keeping your thumb on the cork at all times, puch down on the cork and twist the bottle to the right, moving it from side to side, releasing pressure. Once the pressure has seeped out, remove the cork with littel fanfare and loss of the bubbly.

2. How to pour- First of all champagne is served in a flute, not one of those plastic party glasses that look like marie antoinette's boobies. You hold the flute by the stem, not the glass (this is so you do not warm the chilled flute up with your hand. You wrape the neck of the bottle in a napking to catch the dribbles. Tilt the glass, and pour until 3/4's full.

5. A root beer float. Not all drinks are alchoholic, and one should be able to whip up this guilty pleasure to go with the popcorn while you are watching DVD's.

The trick here is whether the occaision demands frothy or not. For the very frothy effect, put the ice cream in the glass first. To reduce froth pour the root beer first. You'll want to use, if you can, A&W draft root beer.

6. A fresh pot of coffe.

Get and use a percolater to make your coffee. If you cannot, the secret to coffee is in the water. Use bottled or filtered water for the best pot.

Stop it, Jake! You're turning me on.

coco
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Dianne Mechanique
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11-11-2005 12:50
From: Jake Reitveld
Oh controversy.

Actualy, Its says very much the opposite of "Poor wittle girl get hysterical if big stwong man not around." I would concur, such a statement in garbage. And it is very obvioulsy not the one I made.
I give up.

What statement *did* you make then?

I dont want to get into a flame war cause I know your just having fun, but seriously,... all I read was a lot of condecending crap under the guise of a 1960's "playboy" type piece on sexual relations.

It's *sorta* funny (if done tongue in cheek), but I get the distinct impression that you think this is actually good advice. (behind the obvious humour)

Say it ain't so!
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Ananda Sandgrain
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11-11-2005 12:54
It's an interesting point. It might sound a bit patronizing on first glance but if you consider as a dichotomy with the alternative - being creepy or violent or unstable - it's good advice.
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Aimee Weber
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11-11-2005 12:56
When do you teach them to find the little man in the boat?
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Dianne Mechanique
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11-11-2005 12:58
From: Aimee Weber
When do you teach them to find the little man in the boat?
hahaha! :D

hey... why is it a little man anyway?
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Aimee Weber
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11-11-2005 12:58
From: Dianne Mechanique
hahaha! :D

hey... why is it a little man anyway?


I always wondered!! :D
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Margaret Mfume
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Understands the importance of a perfect martini.
11-11-2005 13:01
Jake. Your the man.

Let me handle my life, attend to and provide the details that make it worthwhile.

Thanks so much for reminding me of someone who would make me the best martini evah;
Tinny, RIP.
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